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Of COURSE they do Nahhh, they're all on welfare
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Do liberals join the military? Do liberals start companies? Do liberals LOVE the USA?

Hello:

Yeah, that..

excon

Of COURSE they do

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Nahhh, they're all on welfare

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3 points

Yes, they do all those things. It's the reason they are so besot with cognitive dissonance.

Their love for the USA is often muted by the white guilt they feel causing them to "blame America first". Their celebration of our Constitutional 1st Amendment is now muted by the fact that the most extreme among them want to forcefully shut down opposition, so that supporting free speech now feels somehow racist. Liberals can't decide if they are beautiful individual butterflies, or cells in the body of the whole. Feminists can't decide if they want to use their sexuality as an asset or blame sexuality for male objectification. They can't decide if people get their gender identity in the womb or if they don't have an identity because they aren't yet people. They want to Socialize the benefits of Capitalism.

So yes. They join the military and then they protest it. They start companies and then demand new regulations (creating new barriers to entry they didn't have to face). They love the USA but feel guilty given our history. They are a group at odds with themselves, much like the rest of the country.

Side: Of COURSE they do
excon(18260) Clarified
1 point

Hello A:

I pretty much agree with you, EXCEPT for who's to blame for it.. It's NOT liberals.. I'M a liberal.. It's the DEMOCRATS. But, they're Democrats in name only.. I call 'em DINOS.

Let's just take the movement in Berkeley to SHUT down free speech.. Those aren't liberals doing that. They're confused Democrats.. Liberals like me STARTED the free speech movement at that very university, and haven't changed our positions one bit..

Right wingers say they're NOT right wing - the middle moved away from them.. Same thing here.. I'm NOT a Democrat - they moved AWAY from me..

excon

Side: Of COURSE they do
AlofRI(3294) Clarified
3 points

There are radicals in BOTH parties. The NAACP, that Southern legal bunch, The NRA, Breitbart type organizations. Dino's, Rino's, Nationalists, KKK, and many others on BOTH sides. Confused Democrats, confused conservatives, every political organization has its radicals since before Rome! It's just that, since Reagan and especially since Gingrich's "Contract with America", both sides have become more belligerent! One more offensive, one more defensive ... the radicals of BOTH sides are offensive!

I've voted both ways as a Democrat. Not likely will I vote for a Republican again, there are only a very few left.

Side: Of COURSE they do
1 point

"I pretty much agree with you, EXCEPT for who's to blame for it.. It's NOT liberals.. I'M a liberal.. It's the DEMOCRATS"--------

Oh please Con. Lip service means nothing. The fact is, the "liberalism" you grew up with looks like us and the new liberalism looks like some wierd version of the twilight zone.

Side: Nahhh, they're all on welfare

Well said, the person who created this debate is very young shown by the ignorance of what Liberals actually stand for.

Side: Of COURSE they do
2 points

Liberals know that AMERICANS join the military, start companies (although they realize that NON-Americans start companies also ... on their way to BECOMING Americans), and they realize Americans love the U,S.A. Americans are from MANY parties.

They also know that POWER is dangerous as well as good! That the abuse of it MUST be controlled! When things look to be headed for a "one party system", it's not America anymore. When it looks headed for a "one religion country", it's not America anymore. When it looks like Americans refuse to play as a TEAM, where ALL Americans benefit, it's not America anymore.

I hear a lot of "We want our country back!" Since many of you were not born, or not old enough to KNOW what this country was when it WAS great (before Reagan).... what do you want back?? The country was largely controlled by liberals throughout those great years when we recognized our countries problems and constantly tried to work them out. Argued, debated, compromised .... the good old days. Both liberals and Republicans liked that! Since Reagan, we have a different type of "conservative" and few "Republicans" left. If you want your (our) country back, we need the Republicans to come back and join (and respect), U.S. liberals, THEN America will be great again!

Side: Of COURSE they do
5 points

"The country was largely controlled by liberals throughout those great years when we recognized our countries problems and constantly tried to work them out."-----

This is an amazing statement seeing that the KKK, at the height of its power, was the strong arm of the Democratic Party pre-Reagan. Are you claiming the "glory days" were white hoods and burning crosses on the lawns of black people?

Side: Nahhh, they're all on welfare
excon(18260) Disputed
3 points

Hello again, bront:

You're confused.. Lemme help.. The racist haters you speak of, weren't liberals.. They were right wing Democrats. Liberals are people like ME, who believe in freedom for EVERYONE..

In fact, Al is right.. The country grew rich, proud and strong, in SPITE of the racism in the south.. It took a long time to get around to it, but liberals finally ENDED segregation.

The racists, of course, found a home in the Republican party.. Or, are you gonna tell me that Republicans passed voter ID laws to HELP black people???

DUDE!

excon

Side: Of COURSE they do
AlofRI(3294) Clarified
0 points

You must be younger than I thought and getting your information from Breitbart. As I said, we worked to correct our problems. Think MLK wasn't a friend of the Kennedys?? Think they didn't work together with the FBI to stamp out the KKK?? Think the Dems liked the KKK, no, they dumped the southern Democrats that wouldn't denounce them ... and they became the southern Republicans. No, the glory days were when we decided people were people no matter what color they are. YOURS was the "amazing statement", I lived that period and I can tell you how convoluted you are, but you wouldn't listen because you have been brainwashed! (Must've used a tooth brush or something smaller on that one!)!

Oh, and by the way, corporate taxes in the 50's were around 90% under Truman AND Ike, and they STILL became billionaires and millionaires. You conservatives feel sorry for the poor abused millionaires of today??

Side: Of COURSE they do
2 points

"When it looks headed for a "one religion country", it's not America anymore"

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It was dominated by one religion throughout its entire history. Doesn't taking that religion out of the picture actually make it "not America anymore'?

Side: Nahhh, they're all on welfare
2 points

It would be easier for us to meet liberals in the middle if they weren't using violence to shut down free speech, burning cars and buildings, and dressing like vaginas while kids are around.

The Right moved left, so liberals moved even further left into the abyss. Gay marriage wasn't even an issue in this election because many Trump supporters just don't even care. It's not a trench we are willing to die in. That was us moving left. So what did liberals do? They decided they wanted a Socialist Republic, created "safe spaces" and "new gender pronouns", and dressed as female parts in mass, while now demonizing Christians and promoting Islam? What? How do we go about meeting in the middle with THAT?

Side: Nahhh, they're all on welfare
Cartman(18192) Disputed
0 points

It would be easier for us to meet liberals in the middle if they weren't using violence to shut down free speech, burning cars and buildings, and dressing like vaginas while kids are around

Ok, but not meeting in the middle has been going on way longer than violent shut down of free speech.

Side: Of COURSE they do
2 points

1) Less than half the military identifies itself as Republican.

http://www.nationalmemo.com/only-43-8-percent-of-military-identify-as-republican-down-from-56-percent-in-2005/

2) Half or less of the company ownership and leadership is Republican.

https://hbr.org/2016/08/7-charts-show-how-political-affiliation- shapes-u-s-boards

3) And patriotism is spread all across the political spectrum.

http://www.pewresearch.org/2007/06/27/who-flies-the-flag-not-always-who-you-might-think/

You’re always forgetting that Independents are the swing in the numbers pretty much every time. They swung your way in the last election, they can just as easily swing away from you the next time. And by the very nature of your argument you’re making the critical error of believing two polar opposites describe and drive the entirety of what’s going on in the USA. That’s foolish.

Side: Of COURSE they do
0 points

Hello again everybody, and thanks:

To wrap it up and put it to bed, I will admit that I'm a liberal, a veteran, I own a company, and I love the good 'ole US of A.

excon

Side: Of COURSE they do
Negligentt(397) Disputed
1 point

I'll bet. I think you are a college kid, know nothing about the Korean War, and would eat your baby if you thought it was socially acceptable.

Side: Nahhh, they're all on welfare
excon(18260) Disputed
1 point

Hello N:

Poor poor baby.. I've upset you.. I didn't realize you were so sensitive..

excon

Side: Of COURSE they do

Liberals in general do not "love America". They love their version of what they think America should be, which isn't actually America or any version of America that has ever existed in real life. They look for some fairytale utopian society that doesn't exist in our world. The fact is, some faction or ideology will always be in control. If you destroy the current factions or suppress them, it will be replaced by something, and that something will most likely be worse. By taking down the gates and walls, the left has simply removed the "American" guard, and left it open to soon be controlled by a Communist, Sharia, or some worse foreign ideological regime.

Side: Nahhh, they're all on welfare
excon(18260) Disputed
0 points

Hello bront:

Yeah.. DEM LIBRHALS IS STOOPID AND EBIL.. Amirit? Oh, and I forget DEY HAYT MERIKA TOO..

excon

Side: Of COURSE they do
3 points

So... you have no argument, and are using a diversionary technique to avoid addressing the points.

Side: Nahhh, they're all on welfare
3 points

So.... what I got from that is... You love America today under Donald Trump.

Side: Nahhh, they're all on welfare
Atrag(5666) Disputed
-1 points

Having a bit of a chat with yourself there are we

?

Side: Nahhh, they're all on welfare

Liberalism is simply a tool that the globalists are using to destroy the West. We will fight them. We will lose. And then the end will come, and we will never have less victory.

Side: Nahhh, they're all on welfare
2 points

Liberals have been brainwashed by Liberal Professors, Liberal Hollywood, Liberal media.

Everythng you just mentioned is at total opposition to what Liberals believe.

Liberals always hate spending money on the military because they want all our ta dollars spent on socialism.

Liberals hate companies because they spend their lives puting mandates, regulations and taxes on those companies.

Liberals do not love the USA as we just witnessed when threatening to move to other nations when our free elections picked Trump. Liberals call all those voters for Trump Deplorabe and irredeemable.

They only love America when it bows to their political correct ideology.

Michell Obama admitted that fact when she said this was the first time she was proud of America after the people electing her husband.

Side: Nahhh, they're all on welfare