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No, we don't Yes, we do
Debate Score:131
Arguments:45
Total Votes:176
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Do we have a soul?

Please clarify your position with evidence for the proposition or against the proposition.

No, we don't

Side Score: 78
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Yes, we do

Side Score: 53
5 points

Human consciousness and self-identity are dependent upon neurological processes which cease to function at the point of death. The soul is nothing more than an irrational human belief that allows people to ignore the finality of death.

Side: No, we don't
3 points

There is no reason at all whatsoever, to believe in a soul.

Side: No, we don't
3 points

Some of us have soul but none of us have a soul.

Side: No, we don't
3 points

i no longer believe we do have a soul because there is zero evidence to support that we do. have a nice day.

Side: No, we don't
Thewayitis(4071) Disputed
2 points

I no longer believe you to be a person, but rather a computer generated response. There is no evidence to support other-wise.

Side: Yes, we do
zephyr20x6(2386) Disputed
2 points

There is no reason to believe in the alternative you have suggested...

Side: No, we don't

I'm sorry you think I'm a computer Mr Thewayitis but let me reassure you I am very real.

have a nice day

Side: Yes, we do
3 points

Whether or not one has a soul depends on the perspective you wish to take on the issue. In this case, I will take con.

It is nothing more than the pitiful desire of our egos that makes us want to believe we have a unique soul -- that we are beings distinct and separate from the rest of the universe. We do this because we fear death, but we also know death is inevitable. An immortal soul solves this problem, but it's just a fairy tail we tell ourselves to comfort our egos.

We have consciousness, but that consciousness doesn't belong to our bodies. To the contrary, our bodies are mere expressions of consciousness, much in the way a wave is an expression of the ocean. To say we are distinct and separate from the rest of reality is to say that the wave is distinct and separate from the ocean. It came from the ocean, it's attached to the ocean, and it will return to the ocean.

It's easier to accept that there is no soul when you come to the position that you don't have to live forever to be happy now.

Side: No, we don't
2 points

We don't, because clearly there is no evidence whatsoever for this proposition.

Side: No, we don't
2 points

To quote, "You are a soul, you have a body."

I think that was Lewis Caroll.

Side: No, we don't
Emperor(1348) Disputed
2 points

Clever thing to say, but with no proof, it's nothing more than clever wordplay.

Side: No, we don't
2 points

I agree with you, and yea that was a clever quote.

Side: No, we don't
Jace(4757) Disputed
1 point

Since when, exactly, was there of a burden of evidence to disprove something that has never been proven to begin with?

Side: Yes, we do

I have to set my self over here, because I haven't seen any proof of it, but i am not firmly settled because even knowing how we live, doctors can't make things come back to life.

Side: No, we don't
1 point

Studies show that giners do not have a soul. Therefore, I agree and disagree.

Side: No, we don't
3 points

I am a ginger, you are right I don't have a soul... I consume other people's souls... And turn them into gingers >;)

Side: No, we don't

I don't think other people have a soul. Just me ;)

I have no proof. I just like to believe that and I know I won't be discriminated against by anyone that matters ;)

I can see living things evolving a mechanism where chemical reactions lead to locomotion etc. but why evolve original thought?

Side: Yes, we do
joecavalry(38028) Clarified
4 points

Let's say we could take everything that exists and put it in a jar. Everything right after the Big Bang. Everything before there was life. The elements in the periodic table. Energy. Light. Everything.

Now that is a closed system. You can call this closed system either God or Nature or Universe. I'll call it GNU.

Now GNU decides that it is going to take parts of itself to create a single cell that basically moves around, and consumes other parts of GNU..., transforming those other parts into energy (so it can continue moving and consuming) and leaving behind waste.

Now GNU is like, "WTF? There's poop on me!" So it creates something to eat the poop but that thing just creates more poop. So GNU creates something to eat the first 2 things it created in order to stop them from creating poop but it too creates poop. So in desperation, GNU creates death. And in death, the poop makers return to their original state and are reunited with GNU.

Except that is not where my story ends. It just doesn't end like that.

GNU then creates a creature that is sentient and is able to think for itself. It creates a poop maker that can create original thoughts. A poop maker capable of coming up with poop like..., "Let's say we could take everything that exists and put it in a jar...."

;)

Side: No, we don't
3 points

If not the most greatest thing I have ever heard, it is close to it. I say this with complete honesty. Your theory should be made to a book that I would sponser and if I have time, publish it or write a letter to a publishing company to publish your book. Your book will be a best seller and get government executives attention. After so, Obama will get word of this book and he will resign from his position because he realizes your perfection in thinking and Romney will take the spotlight. Since Romney is a Hard-headed Mormon and everyone else has agreed to your books logic, Romney will be the only person in believe of a deity known as god, thus, everyone dethrones him as a president. Finally, you, the author of this theory, will reign president of the U.S, mission completed.

Side: Yes, we do
2 points

I have seem people die, and I feel something. (Yes un-scientific)

On a scientific note, there are numerous theories that the soul is an imprint of information in our brain on a sub-atomic level.

Side: Yes, we do
Quocalimar(6469) Disputed
3 points

Believe in a soul, that's like your religion which I wont try to dissuade you from , I just want to clear some things up.

there are numerous theories that the soul is an imprint of information in our brain on a sub-atomic level.

What you defined is D.N.A.

As for what you feel when someone dies that could be, even though I have no scientific warrant for this, a minor version of survivor's guilt or the fear Neanderthals had when someone in their tribe died meaning a harder time for the surviving members.

Side: No, we don't

I think that there might be a possibilities of a soul. I have no proof. Nobody has proof. I think its possible. But im a little skeptical about it. I think this may be because I believe crazy things too much but I think its just like believing in aliens or something like that.

Side: Yes, we do
2 points

Soul: 1) the principle of life, feeling, thought, and action in humans, regarded as a distinct entity separate from the body, and commonly held to be separable in existence from the body; the spiritual part of humans as distinct from the physical part. http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/soul

According to the experts you have a soul. Do you not feel or think?

Take note, that I'm the only one that has provided my source.

Side: Yes, we do
Jace(4757) Disputed
2 points

(1) You used an online dictionary; hardly scholarly or scientific.

(2) The definition does not state that the soul is separate from the body, but rather that it is regarded to be separate. This says nothing more than that a lot of people believe in the soul; that does not mean it exists.

Side: No, we don't
Jace(4757) Disputed
2 points

(3) The soul is primarily a construct of theological belief and originated through theological doctrine. Religion itself is unfounded and unsubstantiated, being as it is a matter of faith rather than of reason or science. As a derivative of religious belief, the soul is similarly suspect as a valid idea. The burden of proof is upon those who argue its existence, as it makes little sense to demand others to find proof against something which has not even been proven to exist to begin with.

(4) Most “research” that attempts to prove that the soul exists relies upon tying the soul back to a location in the brain, frequently by analyzing which parts of the brain are activated by thoughts of God. (See, for example,http://www.swedenborg-philosophy.org/journal/data/112b/Werner_Article&Lister;_Response--New_Philosophy_July-December_2009.pdf)

Far from validating the soul proponents’ view, this argument substantiates the argument against the existence of the soul as it demonstrates that belief in God and by extension the soul is a neuro-biological process (i.e. a naturally occurring phenomenon dependent upon the existence of a living, functioning brain). Upon death, the “soul” then ceases to exist; indeed the “soul” exists as nothing more than an idea and not as an actuality.

(5) For people who make the argument in more detail and rigour than I did in my post see (for example). They are God/spirituality related, and thus include considerations of the soul at least nominally:

http://www.colloquydowneast.org/~colloquy/snp_files/D00707-Myers021910_Bloom_Is_God_an_Accident.pdf

http://books.google.com/books?hl=en&lr;=&id;=nKRphq7s7x0C&oi;=fnd&pg;=PA1&dq;=genetic+predisposition+to+believe+in+god&ots;=mcVvkz3o20&sig;=eNWbQVCTtonmnhWK9poAzXhH5Wg#v=onepage&q;&f;=false

Side: No, we don't
Thewayitis(4071) Disputed
2 points

1) If an on-line source is invalid because it is an on-line source than all on-line sources are invalid. Do to this I didn't even look at the links, you already deemed links as a non-reliable.

2) Who said the soul is a construction of theological belief; You?

3) Ever here of soul music? Does it have anything to do with religion?

Side: Yes, we do
Quocalimar(6469) Disputed
1 point

A definition does not qualify as sound proof of existence.

Vampire: a preternatural being, commonly believed to be a reanimated corpse, that is said to suck the blood of sleeping persons at night.

That doesn't man vampires exist, though I got that from your source.

As for the definition you presented. A more logical definition of what makes you feel or think would be this

Psyche:The human soul, mind, or spirit.

I was almost ready to refute my own side and say "I guess we have a soul" when I searched this.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-lanza/do-we-have-a-soul-a-scien_b_850804.html

To avoid all the reading I copied and pasted the comments that reassured me.

Traditionally, scientists speak of the soul in a materialistic context, treating it as a poetic synonym for the mind.

The soul is dismissed as an object of human belief, or reduced to a psychological concept that shapes our cognition and understanding of the observable natural world

Side: No, we don't
Thewayitis(4071) Disputed
1 point

What makes a MD (Medical Doctor) an expert on souls? This is his opinion and only his opinion. Learn the difference between opinion and fact.

Side: Yes, we do
2 points

We definately don't have soul, just like we didn't evolve from apes. What makes you think that one might evolve to a higher plain? Humans never change and possibilities never exists.

Side: Yes, we do
Jace(4757) Disputed
2 points

Um... actually human beings have evolved genetically over time in ways that we can specifically identify. For instance, sickle cell in response to malaria.

Side: No, we don't
Quocalimar(6469) Disputed
1 point

We didn't evolve from apes. No textbook, or no revised textbook says that. Apes are a separate species that still exists to evolve from them would make their way of living unsustainable thus they'd die out. Like what happened with Mammoths and Elephants. That is an example of one species that evolved different ways causing one to die, because one wasn't working.

Instead the theories say we evolved from a species that the apes also evolved from. A similar ancestor. The theories have proof also. An ape has 97% common DNA with humans. That's close enough to be a cousin.

Side: No, we don't
2 points

i believe that we do have soul, i think the soul is were our feelings of sorrow and guilt come from.

Side: Yes, we do
Jace(4757) Disputed
1 point

Our feelings originate in our brain, and are a product of brain structure and chemistry. Having feelings linked to a biological process is hardly a reason to think the soul exists.

Side: No, we don't
Jace(4757) Disputed
1 point

Sorry, for some reason CD posted my comment twice. Editing so the same statement is not up twice.

Side: No, we don't

Yes

Source: Soul Eater .

Side: Yes, we do
1 point

We do. Intuitively I feel a soul exists because our brains imprints of the world are both physical and non-physical. If I were to say, "what are your memories," and I knew you very well, I still wouldn't be able to perceive what your memories are, because they are yours, thus your perception of the world is made entirely of your soul, and who you are. Even after you die, you take a part of yourself with you - your consciousness. Much like dreams, (both while sleeping in waking) that take place in a non-material environment.

DejaVu, phobias, and unexplained anxiety, stress, or sadness is what you might say could be linked to a soul

Side: Yes, we do