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Debate Score:15
Arguments:14
Total Votes:15
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Do you agree with this quote and why?

Thought I'd bring back a classic.

"Patience and time do more than strength or passion."  

Jean de La Fontaine

A stop watch

Throwback to other debate

Yes

Side Score: 5
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No

Side Score: 10

Well if you want a good life. Instead of wanting to have fun and enjoy the whole day...everyday "living in the moment". You must take the time to construct a better financial status, living arrangement and patiently wait for life to get were you want it to be. If you get bored, quit your job and go back to living in the moment before you even have stability, then you'll most likely live an unhappy life with non of your dreams fulfilled because of your lack of patience.

If you are patient over a long period of time you can retire earlier and happy then you can live in the moment all you want. if you want to retire that is.

Side: Yes
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Follow the premise of this debate, which is this quote:

"Patience and time do more than strength or passion."

You seem to be talking about people who "live for the now" but strength and passion, in the way I am seeing and understanding this, does not logically imply "living for the now". It can indeed be understood in many ways but the implication of "living for the now", again to my understanding, does not imply simply having fun but running towards your goal with a passion or going through the toils of life with strength and resilience.

Side: No
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You are only seeing it as a good thing. I have just pointed out how living in the moment can be a bad thing as well.

Side: Yes
Intangible(4934) Disputed
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if you are living in the now when the current "now" is you being 40 years old and still living with your parents because you don't have the patience to deal with a boring job. Then it's a bad thing.

Strength and passion get you no where if you don't have the patience to plan for the future.

Going with strength and passion can lead you do stupid things like robbing a bank and getting put in jail. because you didn't have the patience to get a job and manage your time so you could eventually get what you want.

Side: Yes
Intangible(4934) Clarified
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And what makes your understanding anymore right than mine?

Side: Yes
Intangible(4934) Clarified
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This post had nothing to do with the strength or passion part of the quote.

Ooops. :D.

Side: Yes

This quote reminds me of "Haste Makes Waste." Someone cannot achieve a goal quickly.

Side: Yes
2 points

No but I believe in this quote.

"Good thing come for people who wait,greater things come for those who get their ass off to make it happen"

But I forgot who said that.

Side: No

If you don't have strength or passion then time and patience means nothing.

Side: No