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29
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Debate Score:46
Arguments:40
Total Votes:49
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Do you believe God is real? Explain

Yes

Side Score: 17
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No

Side Score: 29
2 points

Until an atheist can tell me how the entirety of space came out literally nothing, I will not waiver. There is no feasible explanation for how something was created without a creator. You cannot create something, with out things to create it with, and that paradox breaks the Big Bang Theory. There is no way nothing can turn into something.

Side: Yes
Cartman(18192) Disputed
3 points

Until an atheist can tell me how the entirety of space came out literally nothing, I will not waiver.

That's your theory, not the Atheist theory.

You cannot create something, with out things to create it with, and that paradox breaks the Big Bang Theory.

No, that paradox breaks the God concept. The people who believe that something can't exist without a creator also believe that God exists without a creator.

There is no way nothing can turn into something.

Only people who believe in God believe something came from nothing.

Side: No
SamLucas(3) Disputed
1 point

An Atheist does not have to explain anything to you. Atheism is simply the lack of belief in a god. It's as simple as that. Saying I'm an atheist does not mean I believe the Big Bang Theory, although I do, It just means I don't believe in the God Hypothesis. Also, If that doesn't make sense to you how does a god have time to create time and space? And If you're just going to say he can do anything, then why create time in the first place?

Side: No
SamLucas(3) Disputed
1 point

An Atheist does not have to explain anything to you. Atheism is simply the lack of belief in a god. It's as simple as that. Saying I'm an atheist does not mean I believe the Big Bang Theory, although I do, It just means I don't believe in the God Hypothesis. Also, If that doesn't make sense to you how does a god have time to create time and space? And If you're just going to say he can do anything, then why create time in the first place?

Side: No
1 point

god is present.only because of god everything is possible

Side: Yes
1 point

yes.god is everywhere.he or she is the supernatural power.u can't see pain.in the same way u can't see god.

Side: Yes
1 point

everyone must believe in god.only that will help u in your life.

Side: Yes
1 point

it is essential for our life.whenever we feel sad or guilty we pray to god to help us.so god is present everywhere.

Side: Yes
Atrag(5666) Disputed
2 points

The notion of God tends to make people feel unnecessarily guilty.

Side: No
cognismantis(21) Disputed
1 point

Not everyone prays to god when they feel sad. In the end, the sadness is normally resolved by solving the problem that made them sad.

Side: No
1 point

I don't necessarily believe in the manifestation of a god that has a personality, but I do believe there is some force out there that may never be found or need to be explained. This force probably requires nothing and cares for nothing. This force could be a god or maybe some master particle responsible for all of creation.

Side: Yes
Jace(5222) Clarified
3 points

Why call any naturally occurring phenomenon a "god" at all? Does that not rather stretch the very meaning of "god" beyond utility? If anything of generative force in the universe is a "God", it strikes me that the definition is being stretched to salvage itself from its own improbability.

Side: Yes
Paradox44(736) Clarified
1 point

How would we be so sure that the phenomenon is absolutely natural? If neither a theist or an atheist can find the answer than are they both wrong for their own descriptions of the universe and it's creator even if that creator was a god or a natural occurrence? Also, I did state that there could just be a basic explaination towards the end of my argument.

Side: Yes
1 point

He has showed me his existence countless times. When I was at a summer camp, there was a really strong wind. A tree started falling directly towards me and some other campers, who were sitting in the back of a truck. Most of us managed to get out, but a couple kids were still in the bed of the truck, and few were in the cab. I had quickly flopped down onto the ground right next to the truck. Where I was, I would have been killed by the tree, whether by being smashed, or by being impaled by a branch. Just before the tree reached the truck, however, the tree was pushed aside and fell directly behind the truck, with the branches barely an inch from it. There are multiple witnesses who saw the tree be pushed aside. Something the wind would have been completely incapable of doing.

Side: Yes
J-Roc77(70) Disputed
1 point

Double post.......grrrrrr. ignore this one please.

Side: No
J-Roc77(70) Disputed
1 point

Synchronicity.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synchronicity

I have worked in wildland fire for quite a long time and have seen huge amounts of trees fell both naturally and intentionally. There is quite a few legitimate reasons that can cause a tree to move sideways while falling. What is called 'holding wood' can easily swing trees in directions that are seemingly improbable to the untrained. Fellers use this to their advantage when trying to fell trees without damaging property or threatening safety. Uneven 'face' on the trees pivot point could also easily move a tree mid fall. Trees that break off have uneven faces.

Personal experiences like your example seem to fall under the category of synchonicity more often than not. To think that improbable things happen too often to not be something other than chance is likely due to not realizing how many things there are. We tend to over value some events we experience due to lack of background knowledges in things, we have to be aware of how our own solipsism hinders us.

Side: No
1 point

According to JACE:

[There is]Plenty [of evidence] to suggest that "God" is a consequence of our evolutionary trajectory, little more than a collective human delusion derived from our insecurities with mortality and cosmic insignificance.

Does this sound like someone who doesn't believe that god exists, or someone who has a different opinion on the nature of god?

Side: Yes
Cartman(18192) Disputed
1 point

If the nature of God is fully imaginary he believes God doesn't exist.

Side: No
atypican(4875) Disputed
1 point

If god exists merely as a figment of the imagination, then we must admit god's existence as a type of psychological phenomena. Claiming that god is only imaginary, isn't technically a claim that god doesn't exist, it is a competing understanding of what god actually is.

ie.. disagreement concerning the nature of god, not about whether or not god exists.

Side: Yes
1 point

Yes, because, (and I know this sounds cheesy,) but I can feel him working in my life. Yes there is suffering, but this makes us stronger. Think about it this way: if there was no sin and everyone was happy because that's how God made us, then we would feel that we don't need him. One time as a kid, I had seen this scary pop up. I was freaked out. When I had to take a shower, I literally cried. My mom prayed for me. Right when I was going to go in the shower, I cried, "Lord, you're with me." As soon as I said that, I wasn't afraid anymore. This is just another thing you have to believe.

Side: Yes
6 points

No. To date there is not a shred of empirical evidence supporting the existence of a divine being that transcends space and time. In fact we dont even know if that kind of being is logically coherent. As such i do not hold belief in such things nor do i hold belief in anything supernatural.

Side: No
3 points

No evidence to support the assertion. Plenty to suggest that "God" is a consequence of our evolutionary trajectory, little more than a collective human delusion derived from our insecurities with mortality and cosmic insignificance.

Side: No
2 points

No, my reason being that their is zero evidence of a God. A prophecy, written by man, claiming to be God's scribe, does not count because it was again written by man.

I also do not feel that, the argument, "since you can not prove he does not exist, he must exist" works. The reason for that being, that I could say anything is real, and that would then make it real until it could be proven wrong. However their are way too many possibilities to even begin proving something simply stated to exist, does not exist, to actually prove.

In short. No I do not believe, because why should I?

Side: No

No. Science explains things very well and there really can't be a loving God considering the worlds circumstances. He would of ultimately created sin sense he created Satan and "knows all".

Side: No
Paradox44(736) Disputed
1 point

Let's assume there is a god, how do we know if this god has ever intervened in any human endeavors? What if humans in the past just used "God" to explain certain events? For example human flood stories. Take the biblical account and then the "Epic of Gilgamesh". They are incredibly similar. However, they both can't be true at the same time considering on involves God and the other involves multiple gods which contradicts the notion of only one God by biblical standards. What if this god is so far complex that it cannot be fully understood or maybe this god is merely a creator of worlds and that's all it does?

Side: Yes
Jace(5222) Clarified
3 points

What if a human being made up the Epic of Gilgamesh... and then someone effectively plagiarized the idea to make it monotheistic rather than polytheistic. Or, what if large scale natural disasters are not actually that difficult to conceive of so they recur throughout human story telling. There are a number of entirely plausible, rational reasons for such similarities. Even if there were not, substituting "God" for our ignorance does not make "God" anything more than a cop-out to admitting our own lack of knowledge.

Side: Yes
Sportyfun1(84) Disputed
1 point

Ok, so it contradicts itself? How about this: it took over a thousand years for the men to write the bible, right? Well, does it not fit together? I mean, you can see a cycle going on throughout the book, especially the Old Testament. The cycle goes like this: sin, oppression, repentance, and deliverance. And yes, God is so complex that we can't understand him, and we humans have a nasty habit of just simply not believing anything we can't understand.

Side: Yes

Oh cool you have seen the light. Now you're no longer a religitard there is no point in having you as an enemy.

Side: No

I am going to assume that by "god", you are referring to the Christian god. Here we go:

- Absolutely no empirical evidence for "god"

- The attributes people describe god as having (omnibenevolent, omniscient, omnipotent) are impossible; the impossibility of these attributes can be demonstrated with questions like "can god create a being more powerful than himself?"

- Morality is subjective, so there is no "absolute" evil or good (in reference to god and the devil)

- The Bible is not a source of evidence for god as it was written by century-old retards who understood nothing about the world/universe

- The Bible actually demonstrates god's immorality rather well

- Is it easier to say "I don't know how or why the universe started" or "some magical fantastic space wizard wanted to create the universe because he.... wanted a few laughs?"

There are many, many more reasons that I could list but you get the point.

Side: No

I do not hold any positive conviction in the existence of a deity as valid reasoning to at least even suspect the existence of a deity has not been presented to me yet. I need valid reasoning to think anything is true, otherwise scepticism is logical by default.

Side: No