Do you believe everything in the Bible is true?
This is a debate mainly for Christians but other people can chip in too if they believe bits of the Bible (and please don't say you don't believe any of it and here's why because there's no point in that over and over) because I want to find out how much of the Bible people actually believe and how much they can't see the point in.
And also I want to know who believes everything regardless of what they'd believe if it wasn't central to their religion. And why.
Personally I believe most of the New Testament as it is mostly quite believable (although quite a lot is opinions and eyewitness accounts meaning you have to dispute it a bit) even though some of it was written decades after Christ's ascension.
The Old Testament, however, is rather dubious as most of it is laws of the time - laws made mostly not by God himself, but by the men believing they were doing the right thing.
Therefore the 'stone to death the raped mother' is not out of the question.
Overall I think that the Bible is to be taken with a pinch of salt. I'd believe about 70% (including historical documentation such as stories about the life of King David).
Well then I guess we should kill people for working on Sundays, have slaves, beat our wives, not eat pork or any animal with a split hoof, ahh hell I'll make this easy for us all, read for yourself.
If anyone curses his father or mother, he must be put to death.
20:10 If a man commits adultery with another man’s wife—with the wife of his neighbor—both the adulterer and the adulteress must be put to death.
20:13 If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death.
Deuteronomy 22:20-1 If, however, the charge is true and no proof of the girl’s virginity can be found, she shall be brought to the door of her father’s house and there the men of her town shall stone her to death. She has done a disgraceful thing in Israel by being promiscuous while still in her father’s house.
For six days, work is to be done, but the seventh day shall be your holy day, a Sabbath of rest to the LORD. Whoever does any work on it must be put to death.
Deuteronomy 7:1-2 When the Lord your God brings you into the land you are entering to possess and drives out before you many nations . . . then you must destroy them totally. Make no treaty with them, and show them no mercy.
20:10-17 When you march up to attack a city, make its people an offer of peace. If they accept and open their gates, all the people in it shall be subject to forced labor and shall work for you. If they refuse to make peace and they engage you in battle, lay siege to that city. When the Lord your God delivers it into your hand, put to the sword all the men in it. As for the women, the children, the livestock and everything else in the city, you may take these as plunder for yourselves. . . . This is how you are to treat all the cities that are at a distance from you and do not belong to the nations nearby.
However, in the cities of the nations the Lord your God is giving you as an inheritance, do not leave alive anything that breathes. Completely destroy them—the Hittites, Amorites, Canaanites, Perizzites, Hivites and Jebusites—as the Lord your God has commanded you.
Ezekiel 20:25-26 I also gave them over to statutes that were not good and laws they could not live by; I let them become defiled through their gifts—the sacrifice of every firstborn—that I might fill them with horror so they would know that I am the LORD.
Ephesians 5:22-24 Wives, submit to your husbands as to the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the Savior. Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit to their husbands in everything.
Exodus 21:20-21 If a man beats his male or female slave with a rod and the slave dies as a direct result, he must be punished, but he is not to be punished if the slave gets up after a day or two, since the slave is his property.
1 Peter 2:13 Submit yourselves for the Lord’s sake to every authority instituted among men.
2:18 Slaves, submit yourselves to your masters with all respect, not only to those who are good and considerate, but also to those who are harsh.
Your male and female slaves are to come from the nations around you; from them you may buy slaves. You may also buy some of the temporary residents living among you and members of their clans born in your country, and they will become your property.
Yeah sounds like a book for good moral guidelines, I hope for everyones sake that this isn't the Word of any God.
We do already "have slaves". How do you think your chocolate was made? Delusional liberal, and that's not even counting wage labor, which is essentially the same thing if you think about it. There's no way to avoid exploitation or violence (the more humane version of it, because there is at least direct responsibility) to arrange society unless you're a utopian.
not eat pork
That has nothing to do with Christianity as taught by our lord and savior Jesus Christ and extended upon to not include the communist liberation theology which is a terrorist organization not intended by the gospel.
kill people for working on Sundays
Obviously not, sabbath is on saturday and it's a jewish tradition - I do wonder why jews are so rich despite working less. Perhaps the wise rules helped them. They have a cheaper diet for instance.
beat our wives
Only if necessary but that's the mans decision in the first place. I suppose there's a point that it's unnecessary with the new technology and so on, but I would argue it's not morally better to have a robot beat her instead.
I certainly don't think that the entire Bible is true (the only things I really believe in it are the actual historical facts) but your argument will not have any effect on a true christian; it is a convincing argument for a Jew however since the Hebrew Bible is Old Testament. Christians base their religion around New Testament and Jesus Christ and as you know, they say Jesus died for our sins; so that means that all of those ridiculous sins in Old Testament are now forgiven and no longer keep true believers from getting in to heaven.
I have one small contention. Few bible scholars studied the time that the world begun according to the Bible. A couple renowned scholars came up with dates such as close to five or six thousands of years. Geological evidences tell us that earth is nearly 3.5 billion years old. The abundant fossils and scientific estimation of their origins also contend against the reported biblical starting date of the world. I think the scientific predictions are more believable than predictions based on biblical events because they are more found on empirical data.