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Yes No or def. Freedom differently
Debate Score:6
Arguments:5
Total Votes:7
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Do you believe in Freedom?

I believe in Freedom with my whole being.   I define Freedom as the legal ability to do exactly as one sees fit in all circumstances except where it violates life, limb, property, voluntary contract or the selfsame right.  Anything less is not freedom.

Yes

Side Score: 4
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No or def. Freedom differently

Side Score: 2
1 point

I repeat, anything less is not freedom. I really am interested to hear some differing opinions of what freedom is, and the justification. I am also interested to see if someone says they do not.

Side: yes

There are many types of freedoms we enjoy and I'm a freedom freak of sorts. I also think we can go overboard when people are left to their own devices under the banner of freedom. I don't think I have to spell it out for you when I say that liberties are different than true freedom. Total freedom is almost not possible since people will take advantage of that but without it, we are nothing. Thoughts, deeds, education and all manner of things would shrink from a country with little freedom.

Side: yes
0 points

Of course I believe in freedom. Freedom is the main thing that got me walking in the USA today. I'm Russian and Hondurian. I believe in evolution also. I think people who are racist is actually going to hell. They say they hate "Spanish, Black, White lovers, Jews, Russians, and etc" but its like your saying "I hate Gods creation." God created us to be a family, to be friends, to be everything. If you don't like it then deal with it. Sooner or later Gods coming to town. The Jews kilt Jesus? True, but the Jews who are alive today did they do it? Just because the Jews in the past kilt Jesus don't mean the Jews in the present did. Black people need to leave? You brought them here, this place is a free country. I hate everyone instead of White? Don't you think everyone hates you, did you know there's people who's going to kill you? They say "Heil Hitler" but Hitler's Jewish and German, Jesus is Jewish. They call themselves so call "Christians" I'll just call them people who was brought from hell. People who believe and act like the Devil. People who think they worship God, but actually worshipping the Devil. Non-racist White people is smarter than racist White people. They just don't understand that we all have the Human race, why you think we have 2 eyes, 1 nose, 2 ears, and etc? Why you think God put us on Earth? Based of all; Why hate others, instead of hating yourselves?

Side: yes
2 points

True freedom is impossible to obtain. There is always a line you can't cross a barrier you can't break. Not that I'm saying you should go crossing lines and breaking barriers. We put those up for a reason dammit.

Side: No or def. Freedom differently
jinond(18) Disputed
1 point

I ,of course, believe that true freedom as i have defined it is possible. Is it probable? no, given what i know about the way human hierarchy works.

Of course when one lives in a society there are lines that should not be crossed. and i gave those lines. life, limb and property are straight forward, cover murder, violence, theft, and vandalism. the selfsame right covers slavery or coercion of any any kind. The voluntary contract exception covers everything else.

For example if I choose to get a drivers license i am entering into a voluntary contract with the government agreeing to abide by the rules of the road and pay any associated fees. If I drive my car on my own property i do not need to get a license for myself or the car and if i can convince my neighbors to allow me to drive on their property i can travel places.

if i choose to contractually bind myself financially to another woman or man that is my business, and if i violate i stand to be punished. Civilly in this case or Criminally in the previous case. I do believe in the importance of contract law.

Sorry i did not know that a reply to your comment would add another vote in favor. the admins should fix that. so -1 from the Yes.

Side: yes