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 Do you believe in life on other planets? (59)

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Do you believe in life on other planets?

Some people don't, but I think there could be millions of other planets like Earth out there that are able to support life.
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3 points

We've discovered all of these exoplanets but we don't even know for sure what they look like. For most of them we have vague guesses that mostly result in artist impressions. Let's be honest, why if Earth can have life then why are we the only ones? For us to be the only ones for sure, there would have to be an unrealistic magical explanation of life that one finds in fairy tales and books.

I don't know that we'll ever find them though, but if we do we're going to have to face the fact that we aren't special. And maybe that'll show us some discipline.

2 points

I actually do. We only know a small small pin point part or our universe. What we don't know is larger than what we do, so I think it's very possible that there is life on other planets or that ours isn't the only one capable of providing an environment conducive to sustaining life.

Lopilulu(286) Disputed
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How can we know what amount of things we don't know?

Mint_tea(4641) Disputed
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Well, we know that we know about a minuscule portion of the universe. In knowing what we know and how much we know, we also know what we don't know. :D

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You don't believe there is evidence of God, but you believe there is life on other planets? Isn't that kinda silly?

Arsenal(220) Disputed
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Nah I don' fancy it t'be silly at all, mate since when ya do the maths and cipher out that because of the trillions of planets the odds are rather brilliant that at least a few of 'em have life. but with God, the odds are rather stacked against him, eh? since I mean, there's not a tittle of evidence. but since we not only have evidence but proof of life here, why not life elsewhere? we know that biologic life exists. yet we have no reason to speculate how a magical god exists. Its all in the noggins of the believers like you. and when you read this bit here you'll go off and attack and accuse me of goin' to hell. because you know deep down I be right and me nickin' your faith and casting doubt riles you up a gives you a case of the red ass, don't it, mate?

NowASaint(1380) Disputed Banned
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I know deep down that you are on your way to Hell and my sins are forgiven and I am on my way to Heaven and your English language skills are akin to ebonics.

NowASaint(1380) Disputed Banned
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Who cares? What does it matter if you exist if God did not create you and places no value on you? You declare that you want to be nothing. Too bad such stupidity won't keep you out of Hell.

NowASaint(1380) Clarified Banned
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You're just another typical atheist jerk, thinking you know more than God. A fool.

NowASaint(1380) Clarified Banned
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There is no reason to believe that life exists on other planets. Everything everywhere shows God's handiwork. To say "I believe there is life on other planets but I see no evidence of God is completely irrational thinking. It's completely backwards as there is no evidence of life on other planets and everything shows God's handiwork in that it is created.

NowASaint(1380) Disputed Banned
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The whole creation shows God's handiwork, you are evidence of God. To say there is no evidence of God is keeping your head buried in the sand......and yes, you are a dead man walking with one foot in the grave and the other on thin ice melting over the fire of Hell. This is not an attack on you, it's simply telling you the truth...you need to wake up and seek God's mercy in Christ to be your Savior or you will wake up in Hell and you will see the Christ as your Judge.

There is absolutely no evidence of life on other planets. There may be life on other planets, but to say their probably is or to say you know that there is is not rational.

It is you who makes your own mind to be a magical god which you think keeps you out of Hell....futile magic in your mind which can't get you out of dying. You're a fool. Do you really want proof of Hell before you will believe it confines sinners forever dying in fire? It's coming, the hard way if that's the way you must have it.

No insults, no attacks, just the plain simple truth...you are separated from God by your sins and on death row paying the penalty attached to sin.....and you'll go on paying in eternal dying in Hell. You're a fool if you think you are outsmarting God. You're a fool if you say there is no God. Telling you the truth, you think you are better, smarter, and stronger than God...just another fool who has stopped thinking.

NowASaint(1380) Disputed Banned
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There may be life on one or more planets out there, but there is absolutely no sane reason to say "I'm sure there is life on other planets". As we never observe life coming from anything but living things, it is entirely rational to say God gave life to living things as He is the Living God. Life shows God is God. Life means God is good because it shows He is the giver of life.

NowASaint(1380) Disputed Banned
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You're just a jerk trying to insult me. It does not matter, I know my sins are forgiven and I'm on my way to Heaven. I could ignore you easily enough but you need to hear the truth and if you believe it or not you will still face God in judgement and you will be in Hell forever if you have not secured pardon from God.

Idiots like you feel you have to argue against God and the reality of Hell because you know deep down that it is entirely logical and justice for God to confine sinners in the fire of Hell, forever separating them from the living. The only way you can argue against God and against Hell is by insulting God and people who trust him and you make yourself to be a jerk. You think you are smarter, stronger, better than God and you think that by being a jerk against God you are proving that you are not condemned to eternal dying in Hell. You're an idiot...I really feel sorry for fools but they want to be fools and there is nothing the living can do for them so they have to be left behind.

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I don't think they have to come in a package deal.

NowASaint(1380) Clarified Banned
1 point

I think you flatter yourself and stroke your own ego more than you actually think.

ghostheadX(1105) Disputed
1 point

There is a book called the God Theory explaining the possible physics behind a "God." Now I haven't read it but apparently a religious guy who was also a scientist wrote it and it's accepted as a valid theory. But I'm sure if there is a God that that has nothing to do with life on other planets. The Bible states that Earth is special. But if your going to use that as an excuse tosay there can't be life on other planets then I'm afraid you might as well call the Earth flat because that's how effective your argument is.

NowASaint(1380) Clarified Banned
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God is God, not "a" God. The reason you feel you have to imply that God is "a" God is that you are creating straw men which you would call "other Gods", and if there is more than one God then none of them can really be God, so you are using your own consciously created straw man which is not God and arguing that it cannot be God because it is not God.

There is no reason to believe that life exists on other planets. Everything everywhere shows God's handiwork. To say "I believe there is life on other planets but I see no evidence of God is completely irrational thinking. It's completely backwards as there is no evidence of life on other planets and everything shows God's handiwork in that it is created.

There may be life on one or more planets out there, but there is absolutely no sane reason to say "I'm sure there is life on other planets". As we never observe life coming from anything but living things, it is entirely rational to say God gave life to living things as He is the Living God. Life shows God is God. Life means God is good because it shows He is the giver of life.

And your stupid flat earth red herring argument belongs in the cuckoo land, and you have to be pretty lame brained to throw that out there as if it gives strength to your argument against reality. Using that kind of stuff to try to insult my intelligence only shows that you are feeble minded.

NowASaint(1380) Clarified Banned
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I never said there can't be life on other planets. Try to be realistic and don't put words and ideas in other peoples mouths and then argue against things that never existed. It's another way you create a straw man to argue against.....creating something in your mind which never existed in reality and they declaring it cannot be real and arguing against your own imagination.

There is no wisdom, nor understanding, nor counsel against the Lord....all attempts to argue against God are nothing but self-deception.

NowASaint(1380) Clarified Banned
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Looks like that book attempts to merge belief in evolution and the big bang with theology. That stuff is not new and it's nothing but conjecture based on personal feelings trying to avoid criticism of peers by caving in to agree with ungodly beliefs about nature. I spend little time with that kind of stuff, only enough to get the basic idea of their beliefs. There are several highly accomplished and respected scientists like the author of that book. They lose my respect when they push belief in the big bang or evolution as valid science.

NowASaint(1380) Clarified Banned
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Here's an excerpt from the book which shows why it's nonsensical and why I don't spend much time with such things.

"It is not matter that creates an illusion of consciousness, but consciousness that creates an illusion of matter." That is correct physics: it is not controversial in the slightest degree that there is no reality; this has been demonstrated in both theory and experiment (Gröblacher et al., Nature, 446, 871, 2007)."

Reality is not an illusion, it's real. The only thing that is an illusion is the willful self-deception of people who believe this kind of nonsense. The best thing for clowns like this who pretend to be wise is to pour a pot of steaming hot coffee over their heads and tell them the coffee is real, it's hot, and they need to wake up and smell it.

AlofRI(3294) Clarified
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I CERTAINLY do NOT believe that the Earth is special to the extent that there IS NOT life on any other planet. I don't see how YOU can be sure that WE have our own GOD that has nothing to do with other planets. How can you believe in the Bible and not believe GOD created the whole Universe and that HE is not the "GOD" over all?? I don't believe ANY of it so I KNOW the Earth isn't flat. I'm fine with a "God theory", I just do not agree that the "proof" is logical, I'm also fine if YOU believe it. I can't help it if I believe the FACTS go in another direction. You follow your facts, I have to follow mine. My argument is as effective as yours.

AlofRI(3294) Clarified
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This argument came up on my list of "arguments against", that's why I responded to YOU ... far below. I wish CD would find a way to place comments where they belong!

OMG! This was supposed to clarify to ghostheadx (831) above! They can't even get them CLOSE!

NowASaint(1380) Clarified Banned
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The ungodly "God theory" book is as I thought, teaching the Hindu type idea that we are sparks of God, so we are actually part of God and God is everything. That's silly. People who believe stuff like that, and I was one of those people for a few years when I got deep into Americanized Hinduism, are only trying to soothe the guilt which is innate when we know we have done wrong and do not deserve to live. That stuff is a waste of time. It's like I said...the best thing for a person who believes stuff like that it to pour a hot pot of coffee over their heads, tell them it's real, tell them it's hot, and tell them it's not an illusion so maybe they'll wake up and smell the coffee.

I offer a genuine insight into how you can, and should, be a rational, science-believing human being and at the same time know that you are also an immortal spiritual being, a spark of God. I propose a worldview that offers a way out of the hate and fear-driven violence engulfing the planet.

— Bernard Haisch, The God Theory

Haisch published a follow-up in 2010, 'Purpose Guided Universe'. Both books reject both atheism and traditional theistic viewpoints, favoring instead a model of Pandeism wherein our Creator has become our Universe, to share in the actualized experiences therein manifested. Haisch provides as proof of his views a combination of fine tuning and mystical experiences arguments.

KneeShell(16) Disputed
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No. There are billions and billions of planets out there, and the how likely is it that we're the only one that can support life? Not very likely.

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I used to, but the more exoplanets they discover, the more unlikely it's beginning to look. The United Federation of Planets will be a very small club.

AlofRI(3294) Clarified
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Why can't you say that the more planets they discover, the more LIKELY it's beginning to look??

sceathers(155) Clarified
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Because the planets they're discovering are nicknamed "planets from hell". None seem to be in the goldilocks zone. So that's why I say, it's beginning to look like ours is a very unique planet after all.

NowASaint(1380) Clarified Banned
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There may be life on other planets, but the more planets they discover, the more they find no life on other planets. To believe there is life on other planets, which their very well may be, is an irrational belief. There may be life on other planets but there is no valid reason to believe there actually is life on other planets.......and just because demons in ufo's said they came from another planet does not prove that they actually did come from another planet.

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Yes but it's more like bacteria or bugs. Spock is not going to step off a space ship.

There surely is.

Or, at least, was. It depends on a lot of factors, beginning from how you want to define life to what happens to advanced species.

Lopilulu(286) Disputed
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The extraterrestrial life doesn't need to be advanced to qualify as real.

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It means that we have no idea whether a species can go extinct, etc.

You didn't attempt to say what you consider as life, and from this I'd guess that you're willing to include fossils in it.

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I don't "believe" there is life on other planets, until I see evidence of it. I don't BELIEVE in a god for the same reason. When I SEE evidence of either one, I WILL believe. My money is on the planets.

It is REALLY hard to believe that their are trillions of "lives" in a place called "heaven", and even more in a place called "hell". Maybe they are two different planets??? C'mon NASA! surely you can find overpopulated places like THOSE! ;-)

Lopilulu(286) Disputed
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One's belief in a god and one's belief in extraterrestrial life are independent of one another.

AlofRI(3294) Clarified
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I agree. I didn't say it wasn't. I'm beginning to think you will object to, or "correct", anything ANYONE says just to be objectionable. WE have the right to think as we do, that doesn't make US always wrong. It seems like you must have been in a damaging relationship, told to keep your mouth shut, and now are taking advantage of speaking freely. WE are not always wrong OR incorrect, you are not always right or correct.

This is twice I've agreed with you on this page, other times I disagreed strongly but I didn't down vote you. You seem to take disagreement personally. I recommend you seek help. Just saying.

I have no doubt there is life elsewhere in the universe, it would be incredibly self-centered to think we are the only place life happens.

Lopilulu(286) Disputed
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This doesn't make one self-centred; it merely makes one a bad gambler as they are gambling on the side of significantly less probability.

HighFalutin(3402) Clarified
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I guess I'm coming from a biblical perspective where they think it's all about us; that we're at the center of the universe etc.

1 point

Yes, I believe in extraterrestrial life.

I do not think that they will necessarily be our enemies though.

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I believe in unintelligent extraterrestrial life, so like animals that happen to originate on other planets. I think that if you believe in God then you have to believe that he is powerful enough to put life on other planets since he created them and I don't know why he wouldn't. Also coming from the scientific and statical vantage points that have already been mentioned it's very likely that there are other planets capable of supporting life.

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I think it's stupid to even think that there isn't. If God created billions upon billions of planets, why would he put life on only one? And if you don't believe in God(s) consider this. Through this endless universe that we live in (excluding the possibility of multiple universes) with many Earth like planets and planets with similar atmospheres, distance from the sun, etc are bound to exist so why couldn't there be life on other planets? I highly doubt that in this endless universe there isn't at least one planet pout there that has some kind of animal or plant life at the least

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Because it is all based off of some kind of loop or...

Most of what you and scientists see isn't actually there anymore because of the time it takes their light to reach us here.

There is no other "alien" life out there. We are all there is. (Fermi paradox and the Drake Equation)

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Yes, there is a big possibility that life may exist on exoplanets. Astronomers predict there could be about 100 billion exoplanets in the Milky Way that can support life, fifty sextillion(5*10^22) in the universe. This staggering number shows the ability of the universe to host life and helps in concluding that the chances of the existence of alien life is very very high.

This concludes that there is a big possibility that alien life may exist on other planets in the universe as well

Supporting Evidence: Alien Life: A Big Possibility (www.extremetech.com)