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With all my heart! Forget it!
Debate Score:119
Arguments:87
Total Votes:124
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Do you believe in the God of the Bible?

how many people here believe in God?

I am planning to find out majority position.

With all my heart!

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Forget it!

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2 points

Do you have another explanation for fish fossils on mount Everest?

Do you have another explanation for the universe? ( not including evolution)

Do you know everything? I don't. If you know a little bit, isn't it possible that in what you don't know, there is God?

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zombee(1024) Disputed
2 points

Do you have another explanation for fish fossils on mount Everest?

When tectonic plates collide, terrain that was previously underwater is pushed upwards and mountains are formed. Their fossils go with them.

Do you have another explanation for the universe? ( not including evolution)

Evolution does not seek to explain this, but yes, there are other explanations for the origin of universe aside from God.

Do you know everything? I don't. If you know a little bit, isn't it possible that in what you don't know, there is God?

It is possible but just because something is possible doesn't mean you should believe it's true, especially when it is not supported by available evidence.

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iluv2debate(32) Disputed
1 point

Or there was a big flood...you don't know...as in question #3

Well, give it to me then...

So you prefer to believe that after you die, it's over, and that no-one is out there, and that this earth is just spinning by itself, no-one guarding it?

Fine...this website is to display opinions, and i am entitled to mine.

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1 point

I'm going to presume that you are a Christian. Why are you a Christian? Because you happened to have been brought up in a Christian Family. Why aren't you a Hindu? Because you weren't born in India. If you were born in India, you'd be a Hindu. If you were born in Central Africa, you'd be believing in strange mountain gods.

Use your brain, however reassuring and pleasant it is, God does not exist.

Oh yeah, and why won't god heal amputees?

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Uspwns101(444) Disputed
1 point

What is your point? Just because he is Christian due to his upbringing is of little consequence. Why God doesn't heal all the amputees is also of little consequence. You should use your brain before telling others to do the same for it is said:" You hypocrite first take the plank out of your own eye and then you may see clearly to see the speck in your brothers eye." Matthew 7:5.

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iluv2debate(32) Disputed
1 point

actually, God heals more people than you think...

And yes...i agree. My parents influence does help, because it was a correct and holy influence.

As i said earlier, we are all entitled to our own opinion...

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casper3912(1581) Disputed
1 point

It tempting to say your entire argument is one from ignorance.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_ignorance

However the great flood is impossible, consider what would be the highest mountain at that time, then look at how much water there was on earth.

Also, Look up Pangaea and evolution has nothing do do with the beginning of the universe.

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iluv2debate(32) Disputed
1 point

There was a canopy of water over the earth...during the flood, it came a-tumbling down, causing water to cover the earth.

Water also spewed out of underwater reservoirs...why are there so many empty spaces in the crust of the earth?

Just read the Word and some books about it...it might help you not be ignorant, like you say i am.

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2 points

Yes I do believe in God particularly as he is laid out in the Nicene Creed.

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Bohemian(3861) Disputed
2 points

You realize that the Nicene creed was decided by a vote, yes?

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2 points

For all of you who struggle believing the Bible you ought to read Heaven is For Real by Todd Burpo. Its very compelling The book is about a child who dies and goes to heaven. Although I suspect the majority of you will deign not to.

"A young man who wishes to remain a sound atheist cannot be too careful of his reading."

CS Lewis

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Bohemian(3861) Disputed
2 points

For all of you who struggle believing the Bible you ought to read Heaven is For Real by Todd Burpo. Its very compelling The book is about a child who dies and goes to heaven.

Might I find this in the Fiction section?

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1 point

I was watching this on Red Eye on Fox News; they were implying that the dad probably just helped the kid write the story.

The writer (the kid) is real, and he really did die for a few minutes. The thing is, he was about 3 or something and didn't write the book until years later. He says shit like Jesus having sky blue eyes.

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1 point

I'm going to give my opinion...you can give yours.But whether

you believe in Him or not, GOD LOVES YOU!!!

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What is the God of the Bible? Or rather, what do you think it is?

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1 point

I believe in God, because I've seen the benifit chrisitainity can do to communities. I've also seen how bad communities can be that lack a belief in something better than they are.

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Bohemian(3861) Disputed
2 points

I believe in God, because I've seen the benifit chrisitainity can do to communities

It doesn't follow logically that because Christianity provides certain benefits, that it must be true.

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Axmeister(4317) Disputed
1 point

"It doesn't follow logically that because Christianity provides certain benefits, that it must be true."

It's not a case of what is the truth, it's what I'ld rather the truth to be.

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1 point

I believe in the God of the Bible. And its the only true God. Enough said I just want to say that. I already enough with a diffrent debate about God and all some of the Athiests are doing is saying we dont that he did do this and that. And some of you try to brainwash me into thinking that there is no God when there is. When you die God will deal with you and he will talk to you. I did my part on so many debates and no one thinks its the truth all you do is reject my message and come up with some false things that I am not going to even look at. Please to try to reply to me about all your false crap.

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1 point

i used to belive that there is no God .but just think about it'all things around u including u did they occur by coincedence?

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1 point

i used to belive that there is no God .but just think about it'all things around u including u did they occur by coincedence?

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I can't answer this debate. Some parts of me believe and some parts don't. And there are parts of me that wanna believe. I understand that you are curious about the creation of the universe and the existence of fossils on Mount Everest. However, if im wrong, people in the Egyptian times thought that droughts was a punishment from God. And there are people in history that believe that storms is a sign that God is angry or unhappy.

But as times go on, we have solutions. We have solutions to when and why we have rain and droughts. It is all a part of nature. Now, we don't have valid solutions for the creation of the universe and the fossils on Mount Everest, but that doesn't mean that there is a God.

I do believe that there is a God because A LOT of people do. Could we all be so ignorant to believe in such a higher power? Or is it something that God installed in our brains to makes us to believe? And that is what i believe in. That we were all created by God so that is why we FEEL that God's exist. That is makes SOME logical sense. Like a son realizing that "this" woman and "this" man are his parents.

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1 point

The word "God" may mean different for different people. For some it may be an unimaginable mysterious power, idol and pictures for others, some may believe nature and sun, moon or energy, fire or water for some. But whatever it may be, one thing common between them is that they remember that representation to gather strength and hope during their difficult times. If god of bible is such a representation for me whom i think about during difficult times, then yes i believe in it.

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1 point

If the God of the Bible does exist, I will go to heaven because I believe in Him. If he does not, then nothing will happen. There's more of an upside to believing in God.

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1 point

Well, yes. But it's only because of fear. "Believe in me, or you'll go to hell." Whoever says that Christianity, or any similar religion, isn't fear-based is wrong. (This is not tongue-in-cheek. I only believe in God because I don't want to suffer forever. I'm already in constant pain, on earth.)

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0 points

If God wasnt real, what are the odds that our planet went through evolution? Why our planet? Why not another plant? Its obvious that aliens do not exist, so why did only our planet evolve?

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ricedaragh(2500) Disputed
2 points

Why not another plant?

Not enough is currently known to make assumptions like this.

Its obvious that aliens do not exist, so why did only our planet evolve?

Why is this obvious, there is no data available, so how can you make this call?

I could say the same thing about the God of the bible, there is though plenty of evidence to trounce creationist myth.

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Morgie717(76) Disputed
1 point

Its obvious because of the technology we have today, Scientists would have been able to prove that aliens exist by now... Yes you could say the same thing about the God of the Bible. But this is my faith. The question is, "Do you believe the God of the Bible?" And yes I do... So yeah... thats my opinion and belief just like you believe in the Creationist Myth.

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2 points

Yes, I believe in God! But, coming from no religion. (Though I officially follow a religion).To me God is simply faith. It is that supernatural power that we are trying to break the code of.

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2 points

Amen, brother!

except...we won't ever break the code.

He is God.We

cannot figure Him out.

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0 points

We cannot figure Him out.

Yup! That would be hard as hell!

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2 points

God is Socrates, Aristotle, Plato, Copernicus, Galileo, Newton, Ptolemy, Tesla, Einstein, Hubble, Heisenberg, Da' Vinci, Edison....all the individuals that added upon our shared knowledge of the working universe. All the while questioning the accepted beliefs and starring persecution/death in the eyes because of their unyielding faith in human evolution through thought, questioning everything that they were taught as being the norm.

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Uspwns101(444) Disputed
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Da vinci and Aristotle hardly faced persecution. Da Vinci if i am not mistaken worked for the Medici's and was quite protected. Aristotle taught Alexander the Great their wasn't much thought to persecuting two so well protected.

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And by the way, Believing scientists have figured out more things than evolutionary and non-believing sciebtists...read some books...it could help.

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2 points

in my personal opinion i do not believe in god, there are many other religions out there before Christ that have the same birthday, same death, arose 3 days later... you get the point, plus there are fossils on this planet and there is nothing in the bible that says anything about dinosaurs, people say that its god's way of testing our faith but i think of that as a load of bs considering the fact that there is no proof of that within its self...

watch: zeitgeist, im sure after seeing that your faith will fall along with believing that the government is trying to help out...

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After reading the Bible, I came to the conclusion that the god therein is no god I would personally revere nor would I condone other people's reverence to.

Furthermore, I feel that there are many questions regarding the OP that would need to be answered before a proper answer is given such as:

1. Does the god of the Bible actually exist?

2. Who or what is the "God of the Bible?"

3. Which interpretation/translation of the Bible is the correct one in determining who or what the god of the Bible is?

4. Is it possible that the god of the Bible is an incorrect interpretation of who or what God really is? If so, how can anyone who believes in a god know for sure whether or not the god they believe in is or was intended to be the "God of the Bible?"

I'm sure there can be many other questions, but as I stated before and to reiterate; based on what I read regarding abrahamic/biblical texts to include Judaism, Christianity and Islam, I have not found anything that I could, would, or condone others to revere, let alone believe in.

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I do not believe in any God nor do I believe in the Soul or an afterlife.

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iluv2debate(32) Disputed
0 points

Soooo...where did the earth come from?

If you say evolution, you are just going with the trend.

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ThePyg(6743) Disputed
2 points

If you wish to have a debate about where the Earth came from, create a debate for that.

In your description, you said you just wanted to see what everyone believes in, yet you down vote anyone who says that they don't believe in God and then ask them random questions on creation.

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dezzimonster(37) Disputed
2 points

Soooo...where did the earth come from?

Sooooo....where did God come from? Hmmmm...

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Uspwns101(444) Disputed
1 point

It really bothers me when people make a debate and then debate within it.That is why I choose not to create any the temptation would be too great and then I would be a hypocrite. So I am asking you to stop.

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The God of the bible isn't worth your faith he is an evil puppet master. I do not believe in any supernatural stories.

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iluv2debate(32) Disputed
1 point

You've met my God, have you? And you still do not believe in Him?

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ricedaragh(2500) Disputed
2 points

What are you talking about? How could I have met him? I stated that he as he is taught in the bible is not worth anyone's faith, and is an evil entity.

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dezzimonster(37) Disputed
1 point

Actually to be correct nobody has met him and they wont until he comes to earth or whatever it says in the bible, I am agnostic so there could be a higher power but i doubt its the god of the bible. i need more proof than a stupid bible that tells stupid stories that Ive heard before from other religions.

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No, I haven't seen any GOOD evidence for his existence.

But even if he is proven to exist, I still wouldn't worship him.

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I do not believe in the God of the Bible, no. I do believe in God; I believe in a God so inexplicably immense, complicated, and intelligent that it transcends all human understandings of physics and logic: it is a being we will never even come close to imagining, let alone knowing of. Why is the Christian God a giant man living in the clouds that feels love and compassion and hatred and disappointment and rage and care? Because all humanity can imagine is what humanity can see and hear and feel and smell and taste, and our imagination is just combinations of what we already know. Thus, the God we've thought of for so long is a human God, because that's just the smartest thing we know of.

I think of something that thinks of everything down to the path of every quark in the whole of this ever-expanding creation, not a man that likes to admire his own walking creations on one tiny, muddy spec of a spec of a spec of the universe, and create entire dimensions meant to torture or reward their insignificant little souls.

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