Do you believe that the Illuminati/New World Order is real?
I’ve read that many people believe the Illuminati's are the masterminds behind events that will lead to the establishment of a New World Order.
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A clue to the New World Order can be found in the famous (or infamous) quote of Amschel Rothschild “Give me control of a nation’s money and I care not who makes the laws.” On the other side of the fence sat Thomas Jefferson who is quoted as saying “If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation and then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the people of all property until their children wake up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered.” This certainly seems to be the case these days. Side: yes
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This an interesting quote from the Matrix. Morpheus: The Matrix is everywhere. It is all around us. Even now, in this very room. You can see it when you look out your window, or when you turn on your television. You can feel it when you go to work, when you go to church, when you pay your taxes. It is the world that has been pulled over your eyes to blind you from the truth. Neo: What truth? Morpheus: That you are a slave, Neo. Like everyone else, you were born into bondage, born into a prison that you cannot smell or taste or touch. A prison for your mind. Unfortunately, no one can be told what the Matrix is. You have to see it for yourself. This is your last chance. After this, there is no turning back. You take the blue pill, the story ends, you wake up in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe. You take the red pill, you stay in Wonderland, and I show you how deep the rabbit hole goes. Remember: all I'm offering is the truth. Nothing more. And.... Neo: Why do my eyes hurt? Morpheus: You've never used them before. Side: yes
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I believe that the conspiracy theory or the conspiracy theory of history is a very interesting topic and should be examined seriously. If the overall premise is true or even parts of it, the freedom and rights of individuals throughout the world may be in danger. Supposedly, the conspiracy involves people in high levels of society, the wealthy elite, international bankers, political leaders and secret societies. In general, it involves a long-term master plan to create a one-world system–a global system with one ruling government and one world religion (or no religion depending upon the point of view). Side: yes
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The New World Order is actually a conspiracy in which a powerful, clandestine group of elites (Illuminati/Freemasons) have developed a very complicated plan to eventually rule the world through one world government. They are aiming to merge all nations into one totalitarian police state. This would include deprivation of rights to all outside their group. We will be considered serfs..or slaves if you will. Our banks and financial institutions are already controlled by this group. And they are now attempting many other methods of control such as: social engineering, propaganda to manipulate human emotion, mind control, excessive surveillance and passing repressive laws (by saying they are keeping us safe). Leaders boldly mention the NWO in their speeches because they think the masses are stupid. They don't think anyone will examine what they mean. They think the populace will think they are talking about a utopian society that benefits them, not a police state. It's kind of their little inside joke on us. They can be rather sadistic this way. If you observe closely then you would find these illuminati symbols everywhere around you. You can see it behind the one dollar bill. These symbols can also be seen as corporate logos, in architectural designs and as motif on garments etc. These symbols have specific meaning for the members of the group while they are not of much significance to the common people. Check out this link: Side: yes
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CONSPIRATORS' HIERARCHY: THE COMMITTEE OF 300 by Dr. John Coleman In 1992, Dr John Coleman published Conspirators' Hierarchy: The Story of the Committee of 300. With laudable scholarship and meticulous research, Dr Coleman identifies the players and carefully details the Illuminati agenda of worldwide domination and control. On page 161 of the Conspirators Hierarchy, Dr Coleman accurately summarizes the intent and purpose of the Committee of 300 as follows: "A One World Government and one-unit monetary system, under permanent non-elected hereditary oligarchists who self-select from among their numbers in the form of a feudal system as it was in the Middle Ages. In this One World entity, population will be limited by restrictions on the number of children per family, diseases, wars, famines, until 1 billion people who are useful to the ruling class, in areas which will be strictly and clearly defined, remain as the total world population. There will be no middle class, only rulers and the servants. All laws will be uniform under a legal system of world courts practicing the same unified code of laws, backed up by a One World Government police force and a One World unified military to enforce laws in all former countries where no national boundaries shall exist. The system will be on the basis of a welfare state; those who are obedient and subservient to the One World Government will be rewarded with the means to live; those who are rebellious will simple be starved to death or be declared outlaws, thus a target for anyone who wishes to kill them. Privately owned firearms or weapons of any kind will be prohibited." I'm aware that people need to work, take care of babies, keep the roof over their heads, have a balanced life with playtime, exercise, mow the lawn, etc. However, when one doesn't take the time to look at the news behind the news and the reasons why events happen as they do, one cannot be certain from one day to the next what is going to occur. One can't be certain either that they are making the proper decisions for their life if they don't know what's really going on. To the vast majority of us, such a group would appear to be beyond the realms of possibilities and capabilities of any given organization. If that is what you believe, then you are in the majority. The concept of a secret, elite group exercising control of every aspect of our lives is beyond our comprehension. Americans are prone to say, "it can't happen here, our Constitution forbids it." Side: yes
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The NWO is no longer just a conspiracy theory. It is a fact, publicly acknowledged by world leaders. What is the NWO? There are many valid questions and concerns, and various theories. I would advise you to investigate it for yourself and draw your own conclusions. 'The turn of the century is a unique and symbolically compelling moment for the 189 Member States of the United Nations to articulate and affirm an animating vision for the Organization in the new era.
'In resolution 53/202 adopted on 17 December 1998, the General Assembly decided to designate its fifty-fifth session "The Millennium Assembly of the United Nations", which opened at the Headquarters of the United Nations in New York in the afternoon of 5 September 2000 (resolution 53/239).' Side: yes
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Barrack Obama. (July, 2008) “In this New World, such dangerous currents are swept along faster than our efforts to contain them. And, that is why we cannot afford to be divided. No one nation, no matter how large, or powerful can defeat such challenges alone, but the burdens of global citizenship, continue to bind us together. In this new century, Americans and Europeans alike will be required to do more; not less. Partnership and cooperation between nations, is not a choice, it is the only way, the ONE WAY to protect our common security and advance our common humanity. That is why America, cannot turn inward, that is why Europe, cannot turn inward. America has no better partner than Europe. Now, now is the time to build new bridges across the globe as strong as the one that binds us across the Atlantic. Now, is the time to join together through constant cooperation and strong institutions and shared sacrifice and a global commitment to progress that will meet the challenges of the 21st century.” Invisible Empire
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The amount of collusion necessary for anything close to the amount of conspiracy necessary to even make a fraction of what Illuminati is credited for by these theorists, true, is mind-boggling. It is not human nature to so closely guard secrets for so long. Given the number of people necessary to make these conspiracies possible, someone somewhere would have, I don't know recorded a conversation or come up with some proof sometime in the last century or so. Instead you get easily explained-away symbolism and vague cloak and dagger not-so-coincidence "coincidences." Every action of humans as a whole is easily explained via human nature as a whole. No mass conspiracy necessary. Side: No
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Take a look at the draconian legislation that has been passed over the last decade in the name of the "war on terror". Most of it undermines the basic rights of privacy & freedom which are expected in a democratic society.
We are becoming a society where those in power have access to surveillance cameras and data bases that hold information on the population. Add to this the ID card proposal, trackers fitted to all vehicles for the proposed congestion charge, proposed DNA sample at birth, and genetic passports and you begin to see the whole picture.
That is the brave new world that our children will inherit - scary ain't it?
The most ironic part is that we are all quite happy to watch this develop as it is all designed to keep us safe from harm - or so they tell us.
The Government has used the basic factor of fear to ensure acceptance. Side: yes
>< None of those things listed is part of any conspiracy however. It is natural for people to overeact after a disaster, all by themself without being controlled by any shadow group. Plus a couple of those ideas are pretty good. If you are talking about a universal ID that would make everything from voting to enforcing immigration laws simpler. A DNA sample at birth could be a great way to find missing children, catch criminals later, etc. I do notice conspiricists like to bring together a ton of different ideas, as you did, then somewhere throw in "big picture" and allow others to make whatever connections they will - without any point whatsoever, just a vague thing people should be afraid of cause you said it that way. Like I could say, "look at my fridge, sure by itself the mayo looks innocent enough, add in meat, lettuce and pickles, suddenly you see the big picture," and it would sound equally diablolic. The Government has used the basic factor of fear to ensure acceptance. I mean, yeah okay. I agree as far as the Patriot Act and starting a war with Iraq for example that they used fear. But government is elected, by people, not shadow organizations. There's nothing secret about how the people in power got into power nor why people even voted for them. It does not point to some conspiracy, certainly not Illuminati or New World Order. Side: No
The Illuminati was a real occult group that was created in the early 1700's and had dissolved by about 1800, but it had nothing to do with creating a new world order nor has it ever. It's just another cult that had died out, although due to it's secrecy and historical basis it is prime real estate for conspiracy theorists. Side: No
While I agree that the eye above the pyramid wasn't an Illuminati or Masonic symbol (it was adopted by the Freemason's afterwards), I find it very suspicious that the US government would stick a floating eye above a pyramid, neither of which are american or show american natiotialism, on their national currency. Side: yes
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The illuminati pyramid/eye symbol and the words: “Annuit Coeptis” means “our enterprise is now a success” or “our enterprise is crowned with success.” What enterprise are we talking about? “Novus Ordo Seclorum,” which can be translated as: “A new order of the ages” or “a New World Order” Hence, the message means, our New World Order is now a success. The Serpent promised Adam and Eve that their eyes would “be opened” if they ate of the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil. The key word in this passage is eyes, which in Hebrew can be translated “knowledge.” Opened can be translated “broadened.” What the Serpent promised Adam and Eve was that knowledge would be broadened if they ate of the forbidden fruit. But the most foreboding aspect of this scripture emerges from the fact that the Hebrew word for “eyes” is not plural, but singular. What the Serpent actually told Adam and Eve was that their “eye” would be broadened by knowledge. The “eye” that Scripture wants us to consider is not the physical organ of sight, but the eye of the mind or the soul. This singular “eye” is called the “third eye” of clairvoyance in the Hindu religion, the eye of Osiris in Egypt, and the All-Seeing Eye in Freemasonry. (John Daniel, Scarlet and the Beast, Vol. III, pp. 6-7). The Roman numerals “1776” refers to the beginning of a secret society, the Bavarian Illuminati, known today as the “Columbian Faction” of the Illuminati. This is why we see Columbia Space Shuttle, Columbia TV, Columbia Broadcasting System (CBS), Columbia University, Columbia Records, Colombia Movies, our government is in the District of Columbia (they print our money, make our laws, and control the government). They own the government and they own you. They decide who dies and who lives, who to kill and who to protect. Side: yes
Ok, while the concept of the illuminati is very cool and clandestine, I have to agree that there is just way too much opportunity over the course of history for there to have been a traitor to the cause. There always is, unless there is some crazy blood oath that each member took at the beginning swearing to keep,the secrets or their entire family line would be purged. Now, there are some really wild secrets said to be held by the illuminati, but if they really exist, I think we are already living in the "new world order" just as they wanted us to! But alas, what makes great movies is normally make believe. So I say I don't think so. Side: No
I've long been interested in these various types of conspiracy theories; however, despite the great amount of delight I take in reading about them, I cannot fathom truly believing in them. Is it possible? Sure, nearly anything is possible in my book. But, I simply can't believe that it is true. We've no evidence that the Illuminati have existed since the 1700s, and even if they did exist, everybody who claims that they have taken, or are taking, over the world has absolutely no evidence to back up their claim; it is all conjecture, guesswork, and largely, pure fantasy. They don't know anything about the Illuminati, thus they fear it. As Lovecraft wrote, "The oldest and strongest emotion of mankind is fear, and the oldest and strongest kind of fear is fear of the unknown." Side: No
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"It was not my intention to doubt that, the Doctrines of the Illuminati, and principles of Jacobinism had not spread in the United States. On the contrary, no one is more truly satisfied of this fact than I am. The idea that I meant to convey, was, that I did not believe that the Lodges of Free Masons in this Country had, as Societies, endeavoured to propagate the diabolical tenets of the first, or pernicious principles of the latter (if they are susceptible of seperation). That Individuals of them may have done it, or that the founder, or instrument employed to found, the Democratic Societies in the United States, may have had these objects; and actually had a seperation of the People from their Government in view, is too evident to be questioned." Ben Franklin 1798 The Illuminati was founded in 1776 by Adam Weishaupt. But really this was only a consolidation and a regrouping of the ancient mystery cults, like the Jesuits (weishaupt was a jesuit), the knights templar, and many others. The illuminati was found illegal in Bavaria in 1785 - so they went underground and infiltrated fraternic organizations like the Free Masons. Over the last 200 years this secret society has not been stopped or even seriously challenged by any people of any government. They are going strong right now. Their main symbol is the All seeing eye....which is the eye of Lucifer "the light bearer" or angel of light. This symbol is seen all over popular CULTure in movies and music videos......it is also on our dollar bill. It's important that we wake up to this.....otherwise we remain as "sheeple" who are being lead to slaughter. Side: Yes
No. I do not believe in the factuality of the Illuminati/ The New World Order because of the low calibre of the people who talk about it as a negative thing. From what I have read, the people who talk about this movement and its conspiracy are fundamentalist Christians who speak in tongues and believe in the subjugation of women. I do not find them, or much of what they say, credible in the least. Side: No
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