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Do you believe there are animals or aliens anywhere else in the universe?

Yes

Side Score: 5
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No

Side Score: 6
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Do you believe there are animals or aliens anywhere else in the universe?

Hello bront:

Given that there are billions and billions of habitable planets in the Universe, it's hard for me to believe that we won the life lottery..

excon

Side: Yes
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it's hard for me to believe that we won the life lottery..

Sure we did. If we just viewed it through a purely secular lense, if we ever found life, it would be in phase 1 or phase 2, meaning bacteria or at best a worm or insect. Over billions of years of evolution, there were no humans, thus most of Earth's history of having life, there were just simple lifeforms and stupid animals with no intelligent life.

The point? If you find life on a planet there's a 99.99999999999999% chance that it has no intelligence.

Side: No
excon(18261) Disputed
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Sure we did. If we just viewed it through a purely secular lense,

Hello bront:

Nahhh..

You assume life in the Universe all started at the same time.. I don't make that assumption.. Could be that there are older planets where life started LOOOOONG before us, and their people are WAYYYYY more advanced than we are...

Or, they had their own climate crisis, and went kaput.

excon

Side: Yes
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There are, on average, several life bearing planets per galaxy. There is one type 0 per galaxy, every so often a type one, and rarely a type two. Type three are extremely rare and probably exist at roughly one per galactic super-cluster.

Side: Yes
excon(18261) Disputed
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There are, on average, several life bearing planets per galaxy.

Hello hater and science denier:

Nahhh..

What?? You learned that by traveling around in your time machine???????

Fact is, we don't KNOW of ANY life bearing planets.. That would be NONE!!! There are, however, many BILLIONS of planets in our OWN galaxy that have the POTENTIAL for life.. There's even a few moons that have that POTENTIAL..

DUDE!!

excon

Side: No
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Nevermind that it is statistically almost impossible that life doesn't exist somewhere else in the universe, I would bet on there having been life on both Mars and Venus in the past, and on Titan (one of Saturn's moons) in future.

We know both Mars and Venus had water at one point, both of them were at hospitable temperatures with running water for hundreds of millions of years. We know that Venus, being closer to the sun, eventually heated up, causing carbon dioxide to store heat, leading to further heating, leading to evaporation of more water, leading to more insulation, etc etc. Venus underwent a global warming cascade (similar to that which climatologists fear for the Earth). We know that Mars also had running water for several hundred million years, but due to its smalller size in comparison to the Earth, its Geo-Dynamo solidified and it lost its magnetic field, causing the atmosphere to be gradually stripped away, leading to the freezing of the planet. But it's highly likely that both harboured at least complex biochemistry, if not outright "life".

As for Titan, its atmospheric composition is significantly similar to that of Early earth. High levels of liquid methane with huge land masses made of rocks of ice.

I'd bet on all three harbouring life at one point or another. And that's just in our own solar system. If there are one hundred billion galaxies in the observable universe, and about 200 billion stars in each galaxy, on average, then imagine how many other planets and moons are out there which are capable of supporting life.

Side: Yes
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