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It's my RIGHT to cling Lefty's HATE the right
Debate Score:83
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 It's my RIGHT to cling (37)
 
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Do you "cling" to your guns? I "cling" to mine. Is that bad?


It's my RIGHT to cling

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Lefty's HATE the right

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2 points

In 2015, 10,265 people died in alcohol-impaired driving crashes, accounting for nearly one-third (29%) of all traffic-related deaths in the United States.

So you tell me with each child dying from a drunk driver, why the Left is not all over the media pretending to be outraged over these innocent children's deaths? Do you have any idea how many more children are killed by drunk drivers than by guns in schools?

Where is the outrage and demand for alcohol regulations and back ground checks in public bars, nightclubs, etc.

If the real reasons for more gun control legislation is to save lives, why won't the Left propose laws mandating back ground checks in public places that sell alcohol to possible repeat DWI offenders?

I don't want this, but if your goal is to save lives with all your anti Gun rhetoric, you should be over joyed to save many thousands more lives by having background checks on people before buying alcohol in public places.

Do you have any idea how many times repeat DWI drivers continue to drink and drive? Approximately 40% of drunk drivers are repeat offenders! They drive even when their licenses are revoked!

The only way to prevent this is to do a background check before they buy that weapon of death.....ALCOHOL!

Wait, what you say? You say you don't want to be inconvenienced by background checks when buying alcohol? You say you are a law abiding citizen who would never drink and drive?

You say you don't want to pay more for alcohol to pay for those background checks for past DWI drivers?

I THOUGHT YOUR GOAL WAS TO SAVE LIVES? You expect law abiding citizens to pay more and put up with all the inconvenience from your anti gun legislation, but when it comes to your alcohol...... HANDS OFF?

A drunk driver behind the wheels of a car happens millions of times more often than some lunatic with a gun! The odds of you or your loved one being killed by a drunk driver is far higher than the odds of being shot at a concert or Church.

You are hypocrites and total jokes. You prove you could not care less about saving lives. You final goal is to take our guns.

You always spew your ludicrous reasoning why only guns should be singled out to save lives. A police state is just fine as long as it only controls one particular weapon of death..... the gun.

You say we already have alcohol restrictions? Yes, and we already have gun restrictions. You can't buy a gun under age, the same as alcohol. We can't shoot people, you can't hunt near public places and you can not drink and drive. BUT PEOPLE STILL DO IT!

IT'S NOT THE WEAPON OF CHOICE, BUT THE PERSON BEHIND THAT WEAPON. Use the brain God gave you and start addressing why people grow up to be criminals, or become irresponsible drinkers who have no problem drinking and driving.

Start addressing the core problem instead of their weapon of choice.

Side: It's my RIGHT to cling
2 points

We may not agree on religious things but you have a valid argument on this matter

Side: It's my RIGHT to cling

First of all, thanks for actually reading my post. To do so shows an intellect that far surpasses the many Liberals on this site who merely post insults rather then debating my points.

I have no problem with people who are non Christians, or having differences of opinions, etc.

We all have a right to our beliefs.

What I can not stand is when Liberals, LGBT activist groups, etc. constantly try and force Christians to twist our faith and sanction this Big Brother political correct ideology.

My analogy between guns and alcohol is plain to see, if you are not part of the Left wing activism trying to take our guns one step at a time.

You and I both know that it is far more likely our children are someday hit by a drunk driver, then shot by some madman.

It's obviously has nothing to do with saving lives.

Side: It's my RIGHT to cling
Atrag(5546) Disputed
-1 points

Does anyone still read these massive rants? What a joke.

Side: Lefty's HATE the right
FromWithin(8234) Disputed
1 point

No, I do not expect low end voters, who think they have the right to take our guns, to read anything unless it's some text on their phone.

Let me clarify... I do not write the truth of what Liberals are doing in this nation for the likes of you. You are a lost cause and willing to blindly believe the rhetoric from fake news rather then reading and grasping what the other side is saying!

You NEVER respond to the content of my posts because there is nothing you can say to deny the obvious. You therefore insult and demonize instead. Gee why do I ban you?

Side: It's my RIGHT to cling
FromWithin(8234) Disputed
1 point

Look up and see where Smilinbob read my post and thought it made good points. I guess intelligent people who actually want to discuss issues, do read my posts.

Side: It's my RIGHT to cling
2 points

It seem that most people here don't truly understand what "Gun Control" is really about. It's like abortion, it's a ways for politicians to make money and keep the country divided. With either issue there is no strong desire to do much except "Show Boat" This gets folks riled up then lobby groups start on both sides of the issue. These lobby groups give the politicians loads of cash it works great for both sides so you must stir the pot regularly to keep the donations flowing. That is really what "Gun Control" is about. More assault style rifles were sold during the Obama admin than any other time in history. The NRA took in 10's of millions. It works

Side: It's my RIGHT to cling
1 point

Sure, I'll take that accusation. For reasons that are too long to list here, I do believe in a human right to self preservation, which would include the right to shoot back at someone who's an active threat to your safety. If someone ever tries to take my guns, they might find about four of them that I let them find.

Then we'll go get our guns back.

Side: It's my RIGHT to cling
1 point

It's just like my AMEX card. Don't leave home without it. You might never need it, but it's better than needing it and not having it. Also, check the crime statistics. How many young women have been raped, who also carry a concealed firearm? Can anyone give me just one example of that happening? I've never heard of it happening.

Side: It's my RIGHT to cling
2 points

Do you "cling" to your guns? I "cling" to mine. Is that bad?

I do. If you think the 2nd Amendment is about what the left says it's about, you don't understand the 2nd Amendment. It was to keep the government responsible to the people and other governments who want to invade too.

If you want to keep the 2nd, you'll need to vote Republican or Independent. The Democrat Party leadership is gone.

Side: Lefty's HATE the right
1 point

I "cling" to mine. Is that bad?

Yes, it is bad. If you cling to your gun your aim will become unsteady, your trigger control will suffer, and you will more easily fatigue. You should have a firm enough grip to maintain control of the weapon, but relaxed enough to place well aimed shots.

Side: Lefty's HATE the right
Mingiwuwu(1471) Clarified
0 points

This is, in true form, an Amarel argument.

Upvoted for authenticity.

Side: It's my RIGHT to cling
DeathWolf666(367) Clarified
3 points

This is, in true form, an Amarel argument.

Upvoted for authenticity.

An Amarel argument is characterized by it's dishonesty and stupidity. Downvoted for being a monkey fucking dick head.

Side: It's my RIGHT to cling
0 points

I HAVE …. but I don't "CLING". I have had guns for about 65 years. I love to shoot, I used to like to hunt. I have won matches and placed very well in others. That was then, this is now. I don't consider a gun a necessity. The only time I NEEDED one was in the military. Yes. To "cling" to a gun is bad. We wouldn't need to if we lived in any other "non-war zone" country. It's a shame what my old "associates", the NRA, has done to this country.

Side: Lefty's HATE the right
FromWithin(8234) Disputed
2 points

Are you so senile, that you can't even grasp what you are saying?

You just said you loved to shoot and hunt in your day before getting old, but now you would take guns from all those people who love to shoot and hunt.

Do you have any idea how fanatically controlling you have become? You are the low end voter who has been brainwashed by the Left.

Truly sickening what Liberals are doing to this nation.

Side: It's my RIGHT to cling
Cobblestone(14) Disputed
0 points

You just said you loved to shoot and hunt in your day before getting old, but now you would take guns from all those people who love to shoot and hunt.

Shut up you cantankerous fanny biscuit. He never said he wanted to take guns away, he only implied that he wants more gun control. Gun control is not the same thing as taking everyone's guns away, it is about stopping lunatics like you from possessing military grade weapons to commit acts of terrorism against abortion clinics.

Side: Lefty's HATE the right
smilinbobs(598) Disputed
2 points

You are blaming the NRA for the gang violence, and the criminal element that exists in the USA. That is crazy. I would love for you to give me the explanation as to how they are ruining the country by representing the peaceful masses right to gun ownership. Help me out with this!

Side: It's my RIGHT to cling
TheNotorious(8) Disputed
2 points

You are blaming the NRA for the gang violence, and the criminal element that exists in the USA. That is crazy.

Brazenly false. Nobody is blaming the NRA for violence. We are blaming them for selling violent people guns, you deceitful little halfwit. Your premise is crazy because it is a straw man argument: a total -- and almost certainly deliberate -- misrepresentation of your opponent's position.

Fuck off.

Side: Lefty's HATE the right
AlofRI(2843) Clarified
1 point

They are NOT ruining the country by representing the peaceful masses, they are ruining it by not restricting gun ownership by terrorists or people who should not own a gun. Over 80% of the country wants stricter gun control and over 60% of NRA members want it! The NRA leaders won't allow what those "peaceful masses" WANT!

I am NOT blaming the NRA for the gang violence, I am blaming them for not allowing the "peaceful masses" to create SOME resistance against it!

I am, and always have been since my teens, a gun owner. I do NOT want guns taken from those "peaceful masses", I want it more difficult for those among us that shouldn't have them.

One thing I don't agree with is that people should have the RIGHT to own an assault weapon (including an AR or the like) OR an extended magazine OR a "suppressor"! Those that have them should be old enough and intelligent enough to NOT need the hubris that goes along with them!

Side: It's my RIGHT to cling
outlaw60(15500) Disputed
1 point

I HAVE …. but I don't "CLING". I have had guns for about 65 years. I love to shoot, I used to like to hunt. I have won matches and placed very well in others. That was then, this is now. I don't consider a gun a necessity. The only time I NEEDED one was in the military. Yes. To "cling" to a gun is bad. We wouldn't need to if we lived in any other "non-war zone" country. It's a shame what my old "associates", the NRA, has done to this country.

Well look CRAZY AL toes the party line and puts blame on the NRA which has never produced one gun. AL you LEFTIST would not know SHIT if you were hit in the face with a sack full of it !!!!!!

Side: It's my RIGHT to cling