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We NEED gunslingers Gunslingers are old fashioned
Debate Score:10
Arguments:11
Total Votes:11
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 We NEED gunslingers (4)
 
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Do you need a cop with a gun to respond to????

Hello:

1.  A man sleeping in his car??

2.  A dispute over a fake $20 bill??

3.  A man selling un-taxed cigarettes??

4.  Some boys smoking pot behind the bodega?

5.  A driver making an illegal left turn?

6.  Someone a snitch said had cocaine in their closet?

7.  A man yelling at his wife?

8.  A black man jogging through a white neighborhood?

9.  A misbehaving child at school?

10.  A jaywalker?

11.  A black man doing anything??

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We NEED gunslingers

Side Score: 4
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Gunslingers are old fashioned

Side Score: 6
1 point

That's like asking;- do we need cops with footwear to respond to any suspected crime.

Armed police carry guns as part of their everyday equipment and are meant to be regarded as personal protection weapons.

The perpetrators of the crimes which you listed could all very well be armed and sufficiently dangerous/desperate to use their firearm/knife to avoid arrest.

I'm certain that the hysterical Rayshard Brooks would have used a firearm if he'd had one.

In such circumstances an officer must be able to respond to deadly force with deadly force.

Try policing the black infested streets of our cities without a firearm.

Side: We NEED gunslingers
excon(18261) Disputed
1 point

I'm certain that the hysterical Rayshard Brooks would have used a firearm if he'd had one

Hello M:

When Wendy's called to complain about a guy sleeping in the drive through, they COULD have responded with an UNARMED person who woulda woke Rayshard up and let him walk home..

No harm, no foul. Nobody dead.

excon

Side: Gunslingers are old fashioned
Amarel(5669) Clarified
2 points

Since when does anyone let drunk drivers walk home? This isn't 1975.

Side: We NEED gunslingers
Miocene(707) Disputed
1 point

The problem lay with the police officer who could not control himself when under pressure.

Not only did he discharge his firearm once but he did so at least twice.

A gun in the holster of a self-disciplined and well trained police officer is of no more danger that one locked up in a cabinet.

In today's crazy world of extremist international terrorists and resentful, violent blacks a PPW is an essential piece of equipment for all those involved in law enforcement.

Here's one for you;- In 1917 Officer Keith Palmer was tasked with guarding the Houses of Parliament, London, England.

Although common sense should have made it clear that the most likely person to attack the building housing the British Government would be an armed terrorist(s).

But no, this lion, led by donkeys was sent on duty unarmed and was stabbed to death when he tried to stop the Muslim terrorist entering Westminster.

Man, man oh man.

Side: We NEED gunslingers
ColemanHughe(62) Disputed
1 point

When Wendy's called to complain about a guy sleeping in the drive through, they COULD have responded with an UNARMED person who woulda woke Rayshard up and let him walk home..

No harm, no foul. Nobody dead.

Why didn't their liberal run city train their cops better or have them stand down?

Was it because they wanted him dead as a political issue to then say they are the only ones who can fix it?

Side: We NEED gunslingers
1 point

The word hysterical is sexist.

"Hysteria was a medical diagnosis in the Middle Ages for women who didn't bow to patriarchy. The word still retains shards of its sexist past."

Supporting Evidence: sexist term. (feminisminindia.com)
Side: Gunslingers are old fashioned
1 point

It depends on the situations at hand:

1. A man sleeping in his car?? No

2. A dispute over a fake $20 bill?? Yes

3. A man selling un-taxed cigarettes?? Yes

4. Some boys smoking pot behind the bodega? Yes

5. A driver making an illegal left turn? Yes

6. Someone a snitch said had cocaine in their closet? Yes

7. A man yelling at his wife? No

8. A black man jogging through a white neighborhood? No

9. A misbehaving child at school? No

10. A jaywalker? No

11. A black man doing anything?? Not unless it was breaking the law. This applies to everybody not just a black man. If a black man was just doing his legal job though and minding his own business, no, you do not need cops when people are just going about their lives normally.

Side: We NEED gunslingers
1 point

Gun slingers are old fashioned. But when anyone might have a gun, a cop who needs to arrest people better have one too.

Side: Gunslingers are old fashioned

5. A driver making an illegal left turn? Yes

6. Someone a snitch said had cocaine in their closet? Yes

The rest no. By the way I'm not sure when this was posted says 2 years ago but the AP official term is to capitalize the b in Black.

Supporting Evidence: Capitalize Black (apnews.com)
Side: Gunslingers are old fashioned
0 points

Do you need a cop with a gun to respond to????

Hello:

1. A man sleeping in his car??

2. A dispute over a fake $20 bill??

3. A man selling un-taxed cigarettes??

4. Some boys smoking pot behind the bodega?

5. A driver making an illegal left turn?

6. Someone a snitch said had cocaine in their closet?

7. A man yelling at his wife?

8. A black man jogging through a white neighborhood?

9. A misbehaving child at school?

10. A jaywalker?

11. A black man doing anything??

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Ask your liberal city that trained them.

Side: Gunslingers are old fashioned