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Yes, with all my heart Are you kiding me?
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Do you really trust any politician?

I expect people to single out a specific politician and try to show that he/she can be trusted.  So I've taken a politicians and show that she probably shouldn't be trusted.  If you argue that the other side does it too, then you're part of the problem that eneable corrupt politicians.  They should all be held accountable.

http://washingtontimes.com/news/2009/may/03/pelosi-confronts-justice/

Yes, with all my heart

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The U.S. government is spacificly built for this very reason!

So that we don't have to worrie so much about those in power taking over. They can be impeached, voted out, etc.

Thank god for representative democracy.

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simoriah(201) Disputed
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"spacificly" "worrie" bush fan, eh?

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Well, it depends on what they are being trusted for. No one politician can do everything, or is perfect, not even the president. Different politicians have different specific tasks.

Most politicians, I do not trust.

People misplace trust with agreement and likability. If I was an evil politician, and I wanted to fool, or use a certain group of people, how do you think I would do that?

I trust Mitt Romney for president 2012. Because I like him? No, because I think he is good enough for the job and because I like his policies and views, not his hype.

But watch, people that don't like Mitt Romney are going to tell me that he can't be trusted. That's mostly because they don't like him.

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Pineapple(1448) Disputed
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People compliment agreement and likability with trust.

I agree with Obama, mostly. But not on everything. But choices are slim come election seasons, and you have to make those kinds of sacrifices for democracy.

I don't know what Obama is thinking, but I trust that whatever issues are thrown at him, he will do his best to keep the best interests of the country and it's people in mind during his decision making process. That is what representation is.

Senators and Congresspeople, even more so local government officials, have the ability to communicate with the public and get their opinions. They, hopefully, vote accordingly. My girl Diane Feinstein (holla!) holds Constituent Breakfasts, and offices all accross the state, and welcomes opinions.

So all I can do is trust that she and he and all the rest, will try their very very best.

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"People compliment agreement and likability with trust.

I agree with Obama, mostly. But not on everything. But choices are slim come election seasons, and you have to make those kinds of sacrifices for democracy."

Very, very true. Good point.

You can like somebody that you don't agree with. And trust them with certain things. Maybe not everything. Maybe not the presidency of the U.S.

The bottom line is that many people that know nothing about policy or anything, vote. That is dangerous. Citizens should be well informed of the policies of candidates. The media should not play such a big role in convincing people who to vote for. (I'm not just saying that because I'm conservative) Indoctrination has NO place in the U.S. that goes for both sides. Left and Right.

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Stretching the truth comes with the territory for all politicians; they simply could not get elected if they were 100% honest all the time. But you can have a good heart and behave honorably even while playing politics.

Saying you don't trust any politician, ever, is just being cynical. Sure some are scum, but others genuinely want to make the world a better place.

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I look at it this way: I can't trust any human in general with 100%, and a politician is a human, so I can't trust them that much either. And politicians do have the added rap of being constant liars and hypocrites, although it's probably not that much off the charts compared to the average human. The only difference is politicians are being watched and listened to as much as possible and we can point out all those weak qualities.

However, there is a politician I'd LIKE to trust a lot, just from what I know of him so far, and that is Ron Paul.

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Well put and I agree Nichole. I too would like to see much more of Ron Paul and will always wonder, with all his money, why he withdrew his nomination.

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Hello K,

In a nutshell explanation, in a radio interview, Ron Paul stated that he would not win the presidential election. And if he was to continue the race he would have lost his seat in the House. He at that time determined that he could better serve liberty by remaining in the House for the purpose of being privy unto all of the violations of liberty that congress seeks to implement.

We can call him, " The insider of the patriot". Ron Paul is the insider of congress for the common man/woman. I'm pleased he chose that role.

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You can refer to Ron Paul as a politician. Yet, to lump him into the category of "politician" might actually be a false accusation.

I'm not asserting that anyone should trust Ron, I am asserting that Ron's merits are above the reproach that is due career politicians.

Ron's contribution to the U.S. during his campaign will be remembered by they of the younger generations. He will die in due time, such is the nature of life, but what he brought to the political scene is a message that will endure in the minds of all descent individuals for years to come. He is a messenger, he is not the savior. His message was directed at the younger generations. We can save ourselves or be destroyed by ignorance; what will become of us?

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OK, I can make an exception for Ron Paul. We need more like him though.

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he was honest, he admitted to being a member of the KKK (or am i thinking of someone else?) i sure as hell wouldnt have (fyi, i am not a member, im just saying if i was)

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I typically trust and verify but when it comes to politicians I take the New Yorker approach and say, "forget about it."

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I don't trust any politician with all of my heart. There will never be a politician that will share the exact same views as me 100%- except myself. ;) But I don't plan to be a politician, so that;s out of the question.

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No, I don't trust them. I mean everybody knows that they will do anything to get where they are going whether that is slandering your name or cursing you.

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But...but...they told me everything I wanted to hear. What could they possibly have to gain by lying to me?!

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You poor innocent, little bunny with a pancake for a hat ;)

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another fluffy victim of propoganda.

shakes fist in air

VENGANCE!!!!!!!!

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i can't agree with that.not only ur suggestion but i can't rely on any person in this world..........and trusting politicians is really not done!

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This is a letter I tried to email to Gordon Brown. Guess what, his site is down.

Prime Minister

Words almost fail me as I write this letter to you in an attempt to convey my anger about what has been revealed about the state of politics under your stewardship. The British public has long felt that something was wrong, but it has taken the events of the past weeks to show just how disgraceful things have become. You and your like have been responsible for taking the Mother of Parliaments and dragging it through the dirt. When I listen to the feeble excuses put out by Members of all the main stream parties, such as, “I made an accounting mistake, or it was merely maladministration of my affairs” I wonder why people of such incompetence have been allowed to manage my country.

It would seem that politicians have forgotten just what they are, public servants, that is right servants of the public. If you have one iota of conscience, you will call for the dissolution of Parliament and allow for a general election so that the public could sweep you all from power.

If anything good has come from this disgusting state of affairs, it is that I and many like me have seen through the lies and propaganda put about in an attempt to sully the reputation of the British National Party , and we now realise that they have been telling the truth from the start.

I will never again in the foreseeable future vote for any of the present main stream parties, they had their chance, and instead bought shame upon British politics.

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oh yes, im going to trust a professional liar.

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