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Ended:06/03/15
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Do you support OR oppose child labour?

Child Labour has been an issue ever since the Industrial Revolution! Do you think this can be a good thing or is it a bad thing?

Support!

Side Score: 8
Winning Side!
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Oppose!

Side Score: 8
1 point

Either directly or indirectly, we all support child labour. The sanctimonious among us will make all the predictable self righteous cries of wide eyed innocent indignation at such a thought, and all the while most of them will be purchasing goods and produce which, with a little bit of ''label looking'' would clearly indicate that they originated from a country where child labour is the norm. Their conscience can be smothered as long as ''the price is right''. Unions and almost all consumers, but particularly the unions, are guilty of the most shocking form of hypocrisy. 'As long as it's not done in my back yard and I can't see it then it's okay, especially if it saves me a few bucks''.

Side: Support!
JustIgnoreMe(4290) Clarified
1 point

Ask the unions if they support putting child labor restrictions in our trade agreements (they do) ref ref ref. It is specifically in their best interest since a reduced labor pool increases wages and labor power, etc. So would nearly all of those consumers you mentioned. Now ask yourself why the information isn't more readily available and why those clauses aren't in our trade agreements. Spoiler alert - it isn't because unions are blocking it...

Side: Support!
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When people think of child labor, they imagine forced labor which is not necessarily the case. We (in the U.S.) have day light savings time and summer vacation from school in order to work around farmers children's labor schedules.

In general we have traded child labor for pay, with child labor for grades. We try to get our fat kids to go do more physical work because we know it's healthy. Should we really get upset if that physical work is productive and earns money?

I, like most people, am against forced labor. I am not against child labor as such. It is already prevalent (though most fail to see it) and potentially very good.

Side: Support!
Harvard(666) Disputed
1 point

Forced labor is not such a bad thing and may be necessary if there is a need and people are too lazy to fulfil said need.

Personally, I would force conservational labor and wouldn't be surprised if that actually becomes the case given the carelessness of global environment epidemics.

Side: Oppose!
Amarel(5556) Clarified
1 point

You've disputed my statement because you are pro-slavery. You know this is a debate about child labor right?

Side: Support!
1 point

Period 1:

The adults wanted to become rich

Families needed the extra help because they were poor

Factories needed more workers

People believed this would help the economy

The children were able to work faster and small enough to fit in small spaces

Factories saved a lot of money, since children would work for less

*Factory owners believed they were helping employ workers

Side: Support!
1 point

Period 2:

Helped factories gain more workers

Government thought it will help economy

Children have small hands in order

Factories were able to make more money

*Kids helped their family with the income and helped to feed family

Side: Support!
JustIgnoreMe(4290) Clarified
2 points

Kids helped their family

Often their parents had been sent to debtor's prison and in desperation kids worked to try to get their parents back...

more workers

More workers doesn't inherently help an economy - especially at that time since sustaining social security for retirees was not a factor. The only natural (not due to government intervention) middle class occurred due to the black plague - which caused a severe reduction in the labor force.

Children (depending on age) are not physically, socially, morally, or mentally sophisticated enough to understand the current labor laws, work collectively with others to improve conditions, avoid exploitation, pursue justice in court, etc, etc.

Legally they aren't allowed to sign enforceable contracts, vote for representatives or initiatives to improve labor conditions, and cannot serve on juries thus prohibiting a jury of their peers, etc.

Side: Support!
1 point

Period 3:

Helping family out with bills and food

Kids made the owners rich

*Some kids like to work

Side: Support!

Child labor in one sense is acceptable when the child's family income is outrageously low and the family has no other alternative;but again it is a punishable offense;so better support if need be

Side: Support!
1 point

who would support it ???

Side: Oppose!
schneidy33(12) Clarified
3 points

This is a prompt for my students to debate how people during this time would think! I appreciate the answers from everyone

Side: Support!
JustIgnoreMe(4290) Clarified
2 points

Oops. I didn't realize this was for a class at first - I'll refrain from major posts - might ask leading questions depending on responses. Good luck with your class. Wish debates sites like this (and teachers who would use them) were around when I went to school.

Side: Support!
Amarel(5556) Disputed
1 point

Though the article is very old, so is the issue. This kid might have supported it.

"A Dream Come True Turns to Heartbreak for Batboy, 14"

http://articles.latimes.com/keyword/child-labor-laws/recent/4

Side: Support!
mithoo19(806) Disputed
2 points

Child labour refers to the employment of children in any work that deprives children of their childhood, interferes with their ability to attend regular school, and that is mentally, physically, socially or morally dangerous and harmful.

when parents tell their children to clean or buy something, or if the child wants to work for his fun and happiness , it does not come under child labour.

Side: Oppose!
1 point

Period 1:

Children would be severely injured both physically and mentally

Children were treated badly

Children should be in school getting an education

Children would be uneducated and not get quality jobs later in life

Jobs were dangerous

There would be a man that would take pictures of the children being mistreated in different work places

Side: Oppose!
1 point

Period 2:

Machines were dangerous

Children handled poisonous materials

Kids should be in school getting an education

Kids were dying

Children would work for long hours

Kids were illiterate all the way through adulthood

Side: Oppose!
1 point

Period 3:

Kids get injured

Kids also get injured mentally, physically and morally

Kids need education

Kids are growing up unable to be their own person

Kids get low pay (60 cents)

Children would die in the mines and factories

Side: Oppose!
1 point

Engaging young children in whatever form of labour with the aim of money is sheer exploitation, sounds preposterous and goes humanity backwards.

Side: Oppose!
thousandin1(1931) Clarified
1 point

Isn't employing any form of labor to turn a profit sheer exploitation? To turn a profit, your expenses- including payroll- must be less than the money you take in, so any way you slice it the company is getting more from their employees than vice-versa.

If it ceases to be exploitation at some age or other, what age, and why?

Side: Support!