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Debate Score:162
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Do you think Obama was the worst President of the United States

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Side Score: 78
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Side Score: 84

Yes without a doubt because He lied and said He was going to make a C.H.A.N.G.E but it failed.

Side: yes
3 points

Yes, but he's still President. Therefore he IS the worst President in US history. It would be incorrect to say that he "WAS" the worst President in US history because he's still in office.

Side: yes
fancyod(14) Disputed
2 points

In the twelve years of the Reagan/Bush era, the National Debt had grown tremendously, from 930,210,000 ($2.748 Trillion in 2010 dollars) in 1980 to $4,177,009,000,000 ($6.49 Trillion in 2010 dollars). In absolute terms, the debt rose between 1980 and 1992 by 450%. Even in dollars adjusted for inflation, 12 years of Republican rule grew the National Debt by 236% and increased its value from 33% of our GDP to effectively double that, or 66% of GDP. Quite an accomplishment.

Side: No
fancyod(14) Disputed
2 points

Congress is technically on recess—but the Republican Congress is still holding symbolic meetings to prevent President Obama's recess appointments. This is the latest in a long campaign to block Obama's nominees—in particular women and people of color—from getting a vote. Republicans suck because they lie

Side: No
4 points

He ruined the economy ( just look at food and fuel prices). Got us in 5.1 trillion dollars in dept.Lost 700k jobs. Failed stimulus, failed green jobs, failed clean energy, and a rescission. What a failure.

Side: yes
5 points

He is a horrible president. But he's still in office. Whoever wrote the question phrased it badly. He IS the worst President in US history. I look forward to the day when we can all declare that he "WAS" the worst President in US history. Unfortunately, that day will not come for at least another year and a half.

Side: yes
Bohemian(3861) Disputed
3 points

The economy is in ruin because the housing bubble popped, as a result of sub-prime loans. Had nothing to do with Obama. The economy took a nose dive before he even stepped into office.

Don't believe me? Look here:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/fe/US_share_of_world_GDP_since_1980.jpg

Our economy has been steadily declining since 2002.

Side: No
4 points

Obama was elected because he said he would get the world out a rescission but he lied. No good president lies. He did the opposite he promised did worst than lying.

Side: yes
ptosis(243) Disputed
2 points

You gotta me kidding me.

All Presidents lied. Evey single one of them. You are lying to yourself with this naive belief.

In George Washington's time, the rules of war were quaint. Parlay with the French went Washington - and he was returned safely. In return, when the French went to Washington's camp - they were killed. ( French-Indian War)

Side: No
2 points

Yes but he lied completely about all he said to get himself elected. Unless when he said CHANGE it might of been in a bad way. No president every thing he said was a lie.

Side: yes
2 points

What really has my panties in a wad...is the fact that he campaigned on change......the biggest being that he would not slow down the war, he would END THE WAR. He did not end it, he send twenty thousand more troops over. He had no intention of ending it...he lied because people hated Bush because of the war.

Now he says he is finally going to end it....and the troops will start coming home...and all be home by GUESS WHEN????????????????

Next summer.......right before election time. Fancy timing.

Plus Obama is a socialist...and does not even know U.S history.

Check this out.......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpGH02DtIws

It's that Ivy league education....but then he won't release his transcripts....gee now we know why. LOL

This one is my favorite....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=of61E1FesPU

He is an idiot......an absolute idiot.

I mean this is the most hilarious thing I have ever seen.......he cant talk, cant think, cant speak.........how the heck was he voted in?

Side: yes
2 points

We don't need to be involved in Libya, and he just wasted money with his stimulus, and Obama care is doing more bad than good

Side: yes
2 points

He's tied with Bush. If you really look at what he's done, without judging him, based on his name, I'd swear that Obama was Bush. The only thing that I'd say what separates them is the fact that Obama pushed his healthcare legislation through.

Side: yes
2 points

Does a 14 trillion dollar debt or unemployment rates climbing or inability to produce a bill about the debt ceiling or maybe lying or puting us in more debt in 3 years than in bush's 8 years does that help this side of the arguement? For real people carter and obama = unamerican,stupid,worst presidents EVER.

Side: yes
2 points

he hasn't made a change and our country is in a worse position then it was when Bush was President

Side: yes

He is the worst that I can think of. There is nothing more despicable then a man who is has no conviction to follow through with what he thinks is right. Really dose he believe in anything or is he a hypocritical wish-washy puppet. He wanted to close git mo but cant be bothered with what to do with the prisoners. He smokes but wants to tell us not to then raises taxes on them that HE can afford. He apologizes to foreign officials making himself look weak and us stupid. He said he was going to make the "White house transparency" and only creates a web page with information that can be found anywhere. He talks to us like we are idiots. Calls his grandma and his mom naive white welfare recipient and thinks his father is so great. When in fact his mother and grandparents were well off and raised him while his dad ran away after sleeping with his mom. He raised taxes when he said he wasn't going to he called a cop raced when he had no idea what was going on. His wife runs around (after her doctor tells her that her children are to fat) telling us all that we are fat and she can make better choices for us then we can. Oh I could go on and on.

Side: yes
6 points

Really, Obama is the worst president? Bush increased the national debt as a percentage of GDP by about 27%. Obama's increased the national debt as a percentage of GDP by about 9%. Hoover oversaw the nation plummet into the Depression. This recession doesn't even come close to the devastation the country came to after 3 successive presidencies of deregulation, and the ultimate unemployment rate (9% before tariffs, 25% afterwards) of the Depression don't come close to today's rate of 9%. People like to point out that Bush's unemployment rate is less than Obama's currently. However, they forget that unemployment is a lagging figure, by which I mean that unemployment due to Bush's policies bled into the Obama administration. Additionally, seeing as how the policies of Bush's administration helped to foster an environment for the bubble and it's later bursting (at the end of his presidency), it would hardly be fair to blame the economic crash on Obama.

All this aside, I am hardly saying that Obama is the best president, far from it. He has failed on numerous promises, but whether or not that is his fault (i.e. legislative blocking in the House/Senate) is up for debate. But the data supports that Obama is far from the worst either. Under his circumstances, I would say Obama performed adequately, though not as fantastically as one may have hoped.

Side: No
monkeyboy142(76) Disputed
4 points

Obama gains 3 times more dept than Bush a day and its not the end of Obama term in office. So by the time Obama is out of office he is going to have piled on more dept. And the Democrats were in power for most of his term but obama didn't do anything. And Obama when the dems were in power they could of repelled Bush's polices.

Side: yes
Republican2(349) Disputed
2 points

Bush increased the national debt as a percentage of GDP by about 27%. Obama's increased the national debt as a percentage of GDP by about 9%.

First of all, GDP doesn't factor all that much considering the fact that less than half of what the government spends is actually generated in the Unites States. Secondly, The only reason Bush had a higher debt at the end of his term was because he didn't have congressional support to privatize social security (which would have offset the cost of the war by a huge margin). You can't say that Bush was financially irresponsible if it was because of a third party that his plan didn't go through.

That being said, I don't believe Obama was the worst president of the United States. That would be Abraham Lincoln.

Side: yes
Conro(767) Disputed
1 point

"GDP doesn't factor all that much considering the fact that less than half of what the government spends is actually generated in the Unites States."

Of course GDP matters. Alright, then where does that other half come from? Jesus? The money the government spends is the money that the US has or will have.

"that less than half of what the government spends is actually generated in the Unites States. Secondly, The only reason Bush had a higher debt at the end of his term was because he didn't have congressional support to privatize social security (which would have offset the cost of the war by a huge margin). You can't say that Bush was financially irresponsible if it was because of a third party that his plan didn't go through."

And that is completely unlike the situation now Obama faces.

"That would be Abraham Lincoln."

I'm tempted to believe you're trolling, but I've seen people who actually believe this (on this site). I hope you're trolling.

Side: No
Freed0m(95) Disputed
1 point

With a majority in both the house and senate for a portion of his rein, I would go as far as to say that he is at fault for his failures in doing what he promised and Bush doesn't even come close to the worst president. Nor am I saying he was the best, far from it.

Side: yes
Conro(767) Disputed
1 point

"With a majority in both the house and senate for a portion of his rein"

I like how you didn't say how much of a portion. The appropriate designation would have been half, and it would be far more accurate in fact to point out that Democrats were/are quite divided and unorganized contrasting the Republicans which consistently seem to stick together and display strong party leadership to shut down reasonable discussion. That's what they were doing those first two years, and still continue to do often, though luckily with the advent of the Tea Party, realistic Republicans have begun to cooperate more and put aside bickering trivialities (can anyone say "marriage pledge"?).

And still, Bush not being the worst automatically makes the title fall to Obama? Yes, Obama did not do all he promised, but then again, it's been three years, all three of which he's had to struggle against a party that has demonstrated time and again they would rather just say "No," than have any sort of a discussion over policy. All presidents promise things in the campaign such that few promises come to pass. He's not been an awful president, just not a terribly good one.

Side: No
4 points

No George W was president when our country was attacked, got us into 2 wars and ruined or economy. I think anyone who thinks Pres. Obama is the worst President ever, is either born within the past 2 years or watches to much Fox so called News.

Side: No
2 points

Brilliantly true. (referring to mustang's comment)

Fox tends to breed politically uninformed extremists.

George W Bush cannot be forgotten here.

I wish people could witness what life would currently be like if a Republican president were in power... Things would be much worse. It's the situation, not Obama specifically that is the problem. I think he is doing the best he can in the circumstances. Everyone promises change and struggles/fails to give it, at least in the way they wanted to -- it's called political reality.

I'm not saying I necessarily support Obama, but I do support him above other presidents and other current presidential candidates.

Side: No
monkeyboy142(76) Disputed
1 point

Bush got us more in dept(5.6trill) but Obama made the oil and food prices rise and ruined the economy.

Side: yes
Conro(767) Disputed
3 points

Of course, it's the oil and food prices that ruined the economy! You know, at the end of Bush's presidency, the price of gasoline was upwards of $4.11. Now it's closer to $3.69. And oil prices are usually regulated by OPEC. Not the president. Even more drilling in America wouldn't have reduced the prices that much due to our dependence on foreign oil.

But looking at your statement, you appear to seperate oil and food prices rising (although it's not so, oil and food prices rise and fall during any presidency) from "ruined the economy." If you would like to point out how it was Obama that ruined the economy rather than Obama overseeing end of the bubble bursting (and thus the worse aspects of the burst). It seems to me that the one who starts the recession is also the one who caused it. Whoulda thunk it?

Side: No

No, not the worst. Not by any means good, but not the worst. The are different categories of bad that different presidents have fallen into. The worst in my opinion would be either Calvin Coolidge or Warren G Harding.

Side: No
monkeyboy142(76) Disputed
3 points

The nation's unemployment rate dropped by half during Harding's administration.Although he was caught with bribary of the goverment.

Side: yes
2 points

Hahaha it would be the first president women were allowed to vote for... ;)

Side: No
monkeyboy142(76) Disputed
1 point

Calvin Coolidge was regulating the economy but not as much as Obama.

Side: yes
3 points

As much as I would like to say yes, no he wasn't.

Lincoln was the worst or Wilson.

Side: No
monkeyboy142(76) Disputed
1 point

Lincoln saved are nation from spliting and promoted economic and financial modernization. How was he the worst. He saved us.

Side: yes
Sulith(508) Disputed
2 points

Lincoln was one of the biggest mercantilist during the time. He forced the Southern states to buy supplies from the north by raising the tariffs on foreign imports. Some of them reach 80% tax! As I believe any state has the right to succeed from the nation.

He didn't save anyone, he is responsible for one of the bloodiest civil wars.

Side: No
1 point

It appears as you are taking that government sponsored education to heart. Congratulations. Keep GOING SHEEP!!

Side: yes
churchmouse(328) Disputed
0 points

Why was Lincoln the worst president. Do you think we should still have slavery?

Side: yes
Sulith(508) Disputed
3 points

Wow people still think the Civil War was about slavery.

Read what I have posted before, thank you.

And no I don't think we still should have.

Side: No
2 points

I have to say "no" due to a technicality. Since he is still in the White House, he IS the worst President in the history of the United States. To say that he "was" the worst President is inaccurate due to the fact that he is still in office.

Side: No
2 points

Hell no, Nixon?, Woodrow Wilson?, etal....as if George Washington never did a thinkg wrong .. yeah ... right.

Side: No
2 points

Don't forget Roosevelt. I did.

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Side: No
1 point

No no no no no no no no no no no. NO. No no.

Just because he is the most recent/current president, people identify problems in the country/current anger to his dominance. But quite honestly you've got to compare what he IS doing in the current situation with what someone else COULD BE doing, or has been doing in the past. If someone else were in power right now, what would they be doing differently? How exactly would it be better?

If anything, what action they would take would surely be even WORSE. I think Obama seems to have not done anything specifically awful -- nothing that somebody else wouldn't have done anyway.

I think it is incredibly over-dramatic to say he is the worst president the US has ever had.

Side: No

Well I think its a toss up between Obama and Carter....Carter by a nose. No one will ever convince me Obama is a citizen and Carter is a traitor.

Side: No
1 point

Not even close. He's actually one of the best for Healthcare alone. Nearly every President since Nixon has tried to get that done, he's been the first tricky enough to do it. Plus he gave the order that killed the worst terrorist in our generation, and jobs have increased all but a couple months since he was elected after the second worst depression in this country's history. He's actually quite awesome, he's just dealing with a ridiculous congress. Look up fillibusters, they're acting like petulant children in Congress.

Side: No
Republican2(349) Disputed
2 points

He's actually one of the best for Healthcare alone.

Which of course is based on the premise that the health care act was a good thing.

Plus he gave the order that killed the worst terrorist in our generation

He played hero for a day. Any president can give an order. It was the military that took Osama out. Not the president.

jobs have increased all but a couple months since he was elected after the second worst depression in this country's history

Many of them government jobs which, again, are adding on to how much the county is spending. Money that the country can't afford to spend.

He's actually quite awesome, he's just dealing with a ridiculous congress. Look up fillibusters, they're acting like petulant children in Congress.

Like the Dems fought the privatization of social security under the Bush administration? That one would have actually saved government money for a change.

Side: yes
iamdavidh(4856) Disputed
1 point

Which of course is based on the premise that the health care act was a good thing.

It is. Every country with a similar plan pays less for better healthcare. We pay the most per capita and are ranked an embarassing 27th in the world for healthcare.

He played hero for a day. Any president can give an order. It was the military that took Osama out. Not the president.

Right. Cause Bush's orders for the 6 years prior were all doing an awsome job of getting him.

Many of them government jobs which, again, are adding on to how much the county is spending. Money that the country can't afford to spend.

Money spent on jobs adds to the overall economy. That's not a waste of money. And your information is incorrects, more private sector jobs have been created than government jobs and there are less government jobs now than anytime in Bush's presidency. The only time republicans care about how much the government spends is when a democrat is in office so this is a bs argument anyway. If you cared what the government spent you wouldn't be a republican.

Like the Dems fought the privatization of social security under the Bush administration? That one would have actually saved government money for a change.

Had they privatized social security, it would have been tied to the market instead of guaranteed by the U.S. government, and everyone would have lost their social security when the market crashed, and there would be hundreds of thousands of elderly dying of starvation. Actually most of them would be dead by now.

Privatizing social security is class warfare against the middle class. The rich take all that presious social security money they've been jerking off over since Regan, then they loose it on gambles on the stock market while the retiring middle class realizes they can't afford to live on "retirement" because 401 k is privatized too.

Your arguments aren't based on reality.

Side: No

No, that would be Abraham Lincoln for waging an unnecessary war that cost more lives than all other US wars combined. Not to mention several constitution infringements and horrifying war crimes. Obama may be a close second, or possibly third with Franklin Roosevelt in second. Hello Socialist America...

Side: No
1 point

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Side: No
1 point

Bush:The Bush administration decided on a course of action and pursued it - convinced that once the decision was made the discussion of "what" was over and needed to be superseded by the discussion of "how." They decided, for example, that we needed tax cuts and they pursued those tax cuts with single-minded determination and got them. Convinced the cuts were inherently good, they ignored the consequences (breaking the budget) in the belief that eventually they'd be proven right. On domestic policy after domestic policy, the Bush administration was fearless in browbeating both Republicans and Democrats. Once a leader decided, everyone else should, in this approach to leadership, fall in line.Consider the terrible consequences of the 'anything goes' Bush Administration, whose irresponsible non-regulation of financial institutions has led to this crisis."Obama in the hardest Presidency of any for 60 or 70 years,with no help from Republican the party of No. I have there where White do everything in there power to have you lose your job its no fun.

Side: No
1 point

Every presidency is hard. Bush had and has thousands of people calling him stupid and a murdering lier and the whole media machine trying to take him down and he still did what he said he was going to do and what he thought was right. The fact that Obama is black had nothing to do with why people don't like him and you saying that it is makes you a racist.

Side: yes
fancyod(14) Disputed
1 point

Former President Jimmy Carter reiterated Wednesday that he believes racism is an issue for President Obama in trying to lead the country.

"When a radical fringe element of demonstrators and others begin to attack the president of the United States as an animal or as a reincarnation of Adolf Hitler or when they wave signs in the air that said we should have buried Obama with Kennedy, those kinds of things are beyond the bounds," the Democrat who served from 1977-1981 told students at Emory University.

I think it's based on racism," Carter said at a town hall held at his presidential center in Atlanta. "There is an inherent feeling among many in this country that an African-American should not be president."

The Georgia Democrat said the outburst was a part of a disturbing trend directed at the president that has included demonstrators equating Obama to Nazi leaders.

"Those kind of things are not just casual outcomes of a sincere debate on whether we should have a national program on health care," he said. "It's deeper than that."

It’s not like it’s hard to find loads of blatant racism against Obama, but I found a piece by Alan Bock entitled “How brainy is Obama?” over at Antiwar.com to be an interesting specimen.

Surprise surprise! It turns out that Obama has “cunning” (animal cunning, perchance?) but nothing “resembling real learning”:

He undoubtedly has an IQ slightly higher than normal or he wouldn’t have made it through college and law school (though it might be interesting to see his transcripts, which to my knowledge he hasn’t released yet). But in retrospect what he seems to have displayed throughout his career is cunning rather than anything resembling real learning.

Holy cow! That’s nuts on any reading and pretty hard to read as anything but straight up racist. Note the description of George Bush:

George W. Bush was not quite the dunce some made him out to be, but one would be hard pressed to find evidence of intellectual curiosity, a philosophy of governance formed by much deep thinking, a willingness to dig into policy details, or a capacity to learn much from either study or experience.

So, Bush is brighter than all evidence adduces, but tends not to apply his (minimal?) smarts. Obama is cunning, but dumb. In particular, he’s not learned.

If you want more just ask I have tons of proof. I read an research everything.

Side: No
1 point

I can't exactly pick one President.

1) Herbert Hoover: His actions made the Great Depression much worse than what it should have been. He had the national Guard shoot WW1 vets who tried to get their military severance that they were promised. BTW....It was future General Douglas MacArthur that lead the shooting of the WW1 Veterans.

2) Andrew Johnson: Nearly Impeached for the use of the presidential office in an abusive manner. He slowed down the reconstruction of the south and many other reasons.

Side: No
1 point

The honor of being the worst president goes to none other than Nixon. The honor of being a really good president goes to no-one.

Side: No
1 point

I get so tired of people saying that Obama is such a bad President. I guess its easy for everyone to forget that Bush Jr/ Sr were not good Presidents and Bush Jr. tried to mess up everything before he left office. If everyone can recall AMERICANS were losing jobs before Obama was even elected. Bush started the unnecessary war that caused some of the deficit that we are experiencing not even including the gas. Bush did everything in power to leave everything in such a disarray and cause Obama to have a hard time. Then when Obama was elected everything he was trying to do REPUBLICANS knocked down causing this mess that you say Obama created. If we stop focusing on him being BLACK we may be able to accomplish more. We are AMERICANS and its time for us to act like it. The land of the free???

Side: no
1 point

I think it is good that a African American is a president I mean like it gives more viriity

Side: no
GuitarGuy(6096) Disputed
1 point

Too bad he's a shitty president.

Side: Yes

The worst President was LBJ who escalated the Vietnam War and tore the country apart.

Side: no