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Debate Score:41
Arguments:37
Total Votes:44
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Do you think hell is a harsh punishment

Yes

Side Score: 23
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No

Side Score: 18
2 points

Yep. I never understood why non-believers were punished with eternal suffering. If God is real, he chose the wrong time period to prove his existence. Technology is so much better now, if he were to come from the sky and perform some sort of miracle, it would be broadcast on every tv in the world... except maybe in North Korea, but my point is why are we being tested?

Side: Yes

I would not wish an eternal hell even on Hitler, even killing millions doesn't deserve an eternity in Hell as an eternity is immeasurable and every crime is measurable.

Side: Yes
2 points

I don't see how it would solve anything, nobody punished would learn their lesson, and it wouldn't help any of the criminals victims. One would think an all knowing God could come up with a more intelligent way of punishment

Side: Yes

Do those who believe in a God or Gods (specifically those belief systems that also include heaven and hell) believe that the United States populace and government are more loving, merciful, and moral than their God or Gods?

We (the US) have laws against cruel and unusual punishment, as well as clear limitations on punishments for various crimes (minimum and maximum fines, sentences, etc). By any of these measures, hell would be obscenely inappropriate for even the most horrific of crimes (or combination thereof).

Side: Yes
Srom(12206) Clarified
1 point

The U.S can't do anything about the supernatural stuff at all. They can't stop it.

Side: Yes
thousandin1(1931) Clarified
1 point

Of course they can't. That wasn't where I was going with it.

Only a small handful of 'Gods laws' are applicable to supernatural topics, such as witchcraft et al. The rest of 'Gods laws' are applicable to the same sort of stuff we write laws about.

I'm not suggesting that the U.S. legislate against God. I'm suggesting that a loving, merciful God as is typically depicted by most Christians is fundamentally incompatible with the idea of an eternal punishment for any number of earthly transgressions.

Of course, hell could be completely different than most people picture it as well.

Side: Yes

Obviously. .

Side: Yes

The one with eternal punishment? Fk yeah that shts harsh. o.o

Especially if all you did was steal some bubblegum or one of your friends action figures.

Side: Yes
1 point

You know what no it really isn't these people are punished and they should be punished but is it necessary for them to live the punishment for their life yes that part is harsh I think but most people don't even think about it much im glad some one did this some but why do every one bring religion in this

Side: Yes
1 point

I don't think you could get more harsh of a punishment, weddings excluded of course. :))

Side: Yes

I feel as though punishment should not be done out of pure emotions, and that includes anger. A punishment equal to that of a crime should be sufficient. There is nothing you can do in this world that is truly infinite, in the end the earth will be burnt to a crisp. Whatever harm one does cannot exist forever. I agree even Hitler does not deserve hell, as much as I find him absolutely despicable. You could say that his crime was infinite cause the people he murdered do not exist forever, hut if you look at it that way, then you have to acknowledge that those people live a combined number of years anyway, so is it truly infinite? That might equal billions of years, but it is not infinite. Besides punishment shouldn't even necessarily be equal to that of a crime, punishment should merely serve its purpose of discouraging immorality. What does a man burning for eternity really even change? What's the point? I say typically punishment should be equal to the crime, but that is merely for the sake of reason, which may not even always be reasonable, but I know the Christian concept of hell isn't..

Side: Yes

Hell only exists in horror movies. People should not believe in that awful place. Think of Heaven and never think of Hell.

Side: Yes
-1 points

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Side: Yes
5 points

I don't believe hell is a "harsh" punishment, because I don't believe in the modern idea of hell. I'm NOT claiming that my understanding is the right one. But if you consider the evidence in the Bible of hell having an end, and if you consider what the word "hell" literally meant in ancient times, then you probably wouldn't believe it either. It meant "to conceal", "to bury", "to put in the grave". The last chapter of Malachi has a verse that makes reference to the good "trampling the ashes" of the wicked --- which suggests that the wicked would merely cease to exist. There's a lot more I could provide, but I'll keep this short --- hell isn't an evil punishment.

Side: No
GuitarGuy(6096) Disputed
1 point

Mark 9:43

"If your hand causes you to sin, cut it off. It's better to enter eternal life with only one hand than to go into the unquenchable fires of hell with two hands"

I wonder if Mark was referring to masturbation? Lol anyways, I just wanted to point out how he described hell as having "unquenchable fires". Sounds like more than just ceasing to exist.

Side: Yes
amylynn93(115) Disputed
2 points

It has also been said that those references could've been merely symbolic. It would make more sense that they were, considering that "hell" never meant punishment back in the days when the Bible was written. You can look at the single most popular scripture of all --- John 3:16. "...that whosoever believes SHALL NOT PERISH, BUT have everlasting life..." I have to wonder why nobody has considered the fact that if you're going to burn in hell forever, you still have to have everlasting life. Plus, the Bible says that both the good AND the wicked will be judged according to their works, and rewarded/punished accordingly. This means that not only will Christians have different levels of rewards --- but that non-believers will have different levels of punishment. Reaping what you sow, so to speak.

Side: No

It depends on what this person did really :/

Side: No
Cynical(1948) Disputed
2 points

It doesn't matter what the person did. An eternal punishment for a finite crime is stupid.

Side: Yes
2 points

So your saying the killing of over 30 children is a finite crime? Those children are gone forever. they cant come back so no not all crimes are "finite"

Side: No

I concur. I've said it elsewhere, but even if you believe an appropriate punishment is to suffer a thousand times the suffering you caused, even Hitler wouldn't deserve eternal punishment.

Side: Yes

I don't think that everyone can say that hell is good, and some would rather go to heaven than going to hell, even if they are deists. A small misconception of Bible teachings and a hypocritical decision in benefit to look good in society. - Those Who really are afraid of breaking the Bibles rule will be afraid of hell, and consider it as a punishment. But if you ask the same question to someone who doesn't care about most things and especially his and other believes. He/She will not take it seriously. Or just make a joke out of it. Ask a old person who thinks that is wise this question. You will get an answer of hell being negative. And ask this question to a teenager, who will probably say that Satan is his beast friend and so on so fort. - Hell might be a punishment for those who believe so. It's the matter of believes, opinions and perspectives of their surroundings.

Side: No
1 point

I thought heaven was the punishment for idiocy :D

Side: No
1 point

My side is "no", I don't understand why all my arguments list my side as "yes".

Side: No
1 point

No, because being sent to hell is a choice. So you rap your benefit from your decision.

Side: No

Many people think of hell as a punishment for the evil. I, on the other hand, think of heaven as a gift that nobody can earn, and hell is just the natural state of mankind. If you think about it that way...

Side: No