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Debate Score:	43
Arguments:	43
Total Votes:	51
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TheChosenOne (85)

Do you think t-roy and NathanAllen are the same person?

Do you think he is just trying to mess with people?

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Grenache (6103)

3 points

Most likely, but instead of trying to prove that direct link let me point out on the home page right now it says there are 40 people on-line (40!). 9 members and 31 guests. But in my day of kicking around in here off and on I've probably conversed with what seems like 5 or so people. Who are those other 35 logged on but not doing anything, hmm?

There's lots of Medusa identities going on in here.

4 years ago Side: Yes

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DevinSeay (1120)

2 points

That's a lot of guest too. Even when I'm on here at midnight, with maybe one or two members on, there seems to be at least 10 or some guest.

At this rate we should have hundreds of debaters on here debating.

4 years ago Side: Yes

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JatinNagpal (2678) Disputed

1 point

I'd say that much of those are bots. This is a famous website, after all, and I don't think it has a robots.txt.

4 years ago Side: No

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JatinNagpal (2678) Disputed

1 point

I'd say that much of those are bots. This is a famous website, after all, and I don't think it has a robots.txt.

4 years ago Side: No

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TheChosenOne (85)

2 points

I just logged in for the first time in a long time and I was reading through the debates and I was reading them kind of from a outsider point of view because I haven't been on and aware of what had been happening. So when I was reading everything, I noticed NathanAllen and t-roy have a lot of arguments and seem to always mess with people. So I think they are the same person because of they seem to argue in the same debates a lot.

4 years ago Side: Yes

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NathanAllen (2288) Clarified

1 point

Really me messing with people? I mess with people that do not debate. Let's get the facts straight. He messes with everyone. I tell people off. He does not. We are not the same. And most of his stuff has errors in it.

4 years ago Side: Yes

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TheChosenOne (85) Disputed

1 point

What errors are you talking about?

4 years ago Side: No

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NathanAllen (2288) Clarified

1 point

You are an idiot that thinks they know everything! I am done with you, you are a wanna be. But you are saying things that you have taken off the web, good job you now know what a VPN is. My major is in computer networking I know what can and can not happen. And I know exactly what VPNs do to a computer.

4 years ago Side: Yes

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TheChosenOne (85) Disputed

1 point

If you have a major in computer networking then why don't you get off this free debate website and do something meaningful with your life.

4 years ago Side: No

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JatinNagpal (2678) Disputed

1 point

You haven't yet began a major.

Also, it doesn't seem at all like you're debating.

Doesn't seem like you know what a VPN is, so stop trying to make anyone believe that.

I know enough there is about networking and security to see that you're spouting nonsense.

And I don't find you even worth insulting. It's good that you 3 idiots ban me already.

4 years ago Side: No

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NathanAllen (2288) Disputed

1 point

My major not my degree. I am a intern for a law firm. I am not an idiot I ban people like you for such comments like this. A VPN is a virtual private network it mask your IP with a real IP of someone else's computer from anywhere in the world and will ping at the original computer's IP location. When using a VPN every so often the IP will change because if it did not and you were online for long enough you could unmask the IP and back track the actual IP of the computer. Just because you use a VPN does not mean you can not be traced it is not hard but it is not easy to unmask a IP. To unmask a VPN masked IP you need a enough time to do a trace of the masked IP then you will be able to ping that computer and in doing so you will ping both computers but only 1 computer will respond. With a technical background you can take the info from that computer and trace it back to the actual computer masked. There are a few ways of getting the location.

4 years ago Side: Yes

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2 points

That's two of your aliases accounted for plus you make three.

How many more?

4 years ago Side: Yes

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NathanAllen (2288)

2 points

O this one is awesome. Sad part here is every computer and computer network has a unique IP addresses and at no time has my network ever seen a troy account. Nor has my ip ever been seen on troy's account. So by that I could not physically be troy because of distance. My IP pings in Willard Missouri and their pings somewhere else. So physically I can not be troy nor could I ever be him.

4 years ago Side: No

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TheChosenOne (85) Disputed

1 point

Sorry VPNs can change IP addresses so all of your accounts could have different IP addresses and still be the same person.

4 years ago Side: Yes

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NathanAllen (2288) Clarified

1 point

Actually if I had a vpn no they would not be the same location at any time. I would not ping in the same location at any time. I would never have the same IP address either.

Do not get me started I know exactly what I am talking about when it comes to VPNs I use one when using the deep web. So no one can know my location are my actual IP. Did you know websites do log ip addresses. And the owner can see this log. This account has 3 ip addresses logged because I use 3 different devices. Main desktop, ipad, and laptop.

4 years ago Side: Yes

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TheChosenOne (85) Disputed

1 point

Isn't it illegal to go on the deep web?

4 years ago Side: Yes

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NathanAllen (2288)

1 point

You are funny. It is not illegal in any way to go on the deep web. It is some of the content such as child porn and drugs that get people into legal trouble.

4 years ago Side: No

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JatinNagpal (2678) Disputed

1 point

But it does mark you special for surveillance.

Especially considering that you're from US.

But I doubt you could have guessed that.

4 years ago Side: Yes

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NathanAllen (2288) Clarified

1 point

No it does not put me on a surveillance list. Accessing the deep web can not be traced by the United states government as of right now and will not be traceable because of the ever changing coding and setup of the deep web. Accessing the deep web for information that is otherwise not wanted to be known about, by the government does not make someone a terrorist or a harm to the public. So no you are also wrong. Thanks for playing go to jail and do not collect your 200.

4 years ago Side: Yes

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JatinNagpal (2678) Disputed

1 point

What do you think the deep web is? And how do you think it is accessed?

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NathanAllen (2288) Clarified

1 point

Really dude. You would use a tor browser a browser identical to that of firefox. I use a tor with my own vpn.

4 years ago Side: Yes

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NathanAllen (2288) Disputed

1 point

The deep web it the gateway to the dark side of the internet. The stuff most governments don't want known. It is where you would find the silk road otherwise known as the black market. And is where you would by drugs. And if you really dig and know exactly what you are searching for and the people to get you there you could see child porn also. This type of content child porn is extremely surveillanced by the United States government and is taken down with time and government employed hackers.

4 years ago Side: No

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JatinNagpal (2678) Disputed

1 point

That's clearly not what I asked. I know what happens on the deep web, and what other layers of the Internet are, and what happens on them. I know how they are encrypted, how they work and what general people think about them. And, of course, all the possible ways it could be.

That is the part about what general people, the rather ignorant ones, think about it. You seriously think I would have asked for that?

Just like your new leader, it seems.

4 years ago Side: Yes

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NathanAllen (2288) Disputed

1 point

The deep web it the gateway to the dark side of the internet. The stuff most governments don't want known. It is where you would find the silk road otherwise known as the black market. And is where you would by drugs. And if you really dig and know exactly what you are searching for and the people to get you there you could see child porn also. This type of content child porn is extremely surveillanced by the United States government and is taken down with time and government employed hackers.

4 years ago Side: No

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NathanAllen (2288) Clarified

1 point

Really then why do I mostly ping as 97.64.215.162? A VPN is a virtual private network meaning you ping a ip but it does not ever ping as the same ip twice. That is because if that computer ever used the same IP you could be traced. A VPN also changes the ip every so often. So still your argument and debate is false.

4 years ago Side: Yes

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NathanAllen (2288)

1 point

And how about this stop making debates about me? Really stop making them. Unless you have actual proof I am them. Their IP address ping on the same network hints why I am so pushy on them being the same person.

4 years ago Side: No

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sylynn (626) Clarified

1 point

Hey I just tried to reply to your message but it doesn't seem I can. I don't know if you inadvertently blocked me or if it's just the site being weird, but in response, no worries!

4 years ago Side: Yes

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NathanAllen (2288)

1 point

Hang on let me check my settings!

4 years ago Side: No

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Mint_tea (4624)

1 point

I don't think so, the debate style is a little different, they both like to mess with people but one goes overboard and the other doesn't.

4 years ago Side: No

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0 points

I am not Nathan Allen but, nice try.

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4 years ago Side: No

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