Do you think the swine flu will be a pandemic?
well its here do you think it will turn into a pandemic ending the whole world population.
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You can tell how hesitant the government is to closing borders, or stop the flight between planes. New cases, states, and countries are being added quickly to the list of found cases of Swine Flu. Not only this, but they are closing schools in many states including my own (Wisconsin). They are telling you to stay home from school and work, to stock up on food, and medicine. They have been moving the level from 4 to 5, close to a 6. The government never wants to worry the public more than necessary, and so far they have been worrying quite some people. They wouldn't do that, infact they would keep it hush hush, if it wasn't going to be as big of a deal. Side: yes
There closing schools there? Jeez, that may be going a bit far, considering 0 people in the U.S. have died from it, and only like 90 have gotten it. I mean that's 90 out of 300,000,000. You have a better chance of dying from a satelite falling on your head. Side: its been greatly exagerated
One person died, but they where visiting from mexico so I don't know if that counts. Fort Worth ISD is closed til may 8th. I don't know if that will do any good but I just hope they close irving ISD. (where I go) Oh well, I only have like 4 weeks to go anyways, mine as well just get them over with then I;m DONE with grade school, ...forever. (: Side: yes
Um, what's the time frame? Pretty much everyone has the regular flu in their system, so it's possible that 10 years from now, everyone will have the swine flu too. But it's not something that is going to wipe out the world. It's like the regular flu; it affects people with bad immune systems the most. Side: yes
No, no, I didn't say people that aren't "immune" to it. Big difference. People with compromised immune systems from bad health or disease or whatever. Like young children, druggies, and old people, to name a few. We're ALL capable of catching this flu, but we're not all capable of getting all the bad symptoms from it that are hospitalizing some people, and even starting to kill others. Side: yes
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Well i have to say yes, personally im not to worried, but ive seen the effect its been causing here in Texas. many people are worried and a lot of schools have been closed down like fort worth isd, my parents have been watching the news more often now and well i guess its been a worry so far, so many people are scared due to the fact that the flu might spread even more and that their lives my be at risk as well Side: yes
I am at home sick right now with symptoms I have been sick for a few days so far the doctors tell me to cough hard every 1 hour and take a few deep breaths every hour so I don't get pnemonia. By the way it is bad because we didnt have the vaccine for it, thats why they are worried because we wont have that until possibly end of july. How is everyone else feeling? Side: yes
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Please do not take the vaccine! The vaccines for this in the past as well as much of the vaccines in the US are actually the cause of many health related problems. Just read this for your health help: http://articles.mercola.com/sites/ Side: No
Influenza pandemic alert raised from phase 4 to 5 at World Health Organization. It states that "all countries should immediately activate their pandemic preparedness plans". And I just read in the newspaper they fear half of Norway could be knocked out. That being said, I feel the media is blowing the whole ting out of proportion. It's serious, yes, but take a step back, take a deep breath (possibly wearing a face mask) and see the big picture. There's a good chance you'll survive this one too :) Side: yes
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I live in Arizona, Mexico is barely 3 hours from me and there's no cases of the flu here yet. Actually, I just checked the CDC and there's 1 case so far. ONE. So, your statement proves nothing. Current stats that are PROVED from the laboratory to be Swine Flu cases: NY with 50 cases TX with 26 CA with 14 SC with 10 KS with 2 MA with 2 OH with 1 NV with 1 AZ with 1 IN with 1 Michigan with 1 Total cases: 109 Death toll: 1 in Texas. (Which I believe was a little girl). A lot of people are probably confusing the regular Flu with the Swine Flu too. Remember the rapid flu cases, or suspicious sicknesses at least, that was spreading rapidly from Oct 08 til around Feb 09? Maybe it's all the same stuff! Anyhow, I think there's a good chance every state will catch this. But everyone is making it sound like it's going to be a damn catastrophic event wiping out the world. Gosh. Side: No
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I live in CT and we've had cases here but many more in New York, right next door. Pandemic? Yes, I believe it will be labeled as such. Please see the link I've provided so you can see how and where this disease manifests. Side: yes
The reason that Doctors and Politicians are so scared of the swine flu is not the severity of the disease, or the cases/deaths right now. They, from past experience, are afraid of what this flu might become. This particular flu has adapted very quickly, and that is scary. The prospects of what it might do are frightening. Usually a flu like this will begin to appear in the spring, and not be very devastating. However it could come roaring back in 6-10 months and wipe out large numbers. That's why Doctors want to find a vaccine within the next 3-4 months, so that if the flu surges up again this coming winter, they can be ready. Personally, I don't tend to worry about these kinds of things... But if I did I'd be worried about H5N1 instead.... Side: Maybe
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Of course it is. The U.S. government is not doing anything about it. They sent 10,000 soldiers to the border between Mexico and the U.S. Don't you think that's dangerous. And they let American's who were in Mexico come back to America, causing it to rapidly spread to America. Soon, the world. This disease won't be exterminated, since you can't just kill everybody who has swine flu. Side: yes
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According to the World Health Organization, the swine flu is not as bad as the regular flu. Just because the sine flu virus is being identified in a number of places does not mean that its spreading particularly quickly. Remember, during a typical flu season, 5-20% of the US is infected with a mortality rate of between 0.24% - 0.96%. The swine flu has a long way to go before it achieves such levels. The media is blowing this thing out of proportion. Side: No
I have a strong feeling there will be a vaccine soon enough. People are not dying from swine flu as much as from other new viruses and bacteria of the modern age, like SARS and the bird flu. I think we'll be okay. It's just a new type of flu with a few more symptoms. Side: No
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the only reason why the people died in Mexico is because mexico does not have good healthcare or vaccines, or water. it will be nothing to the U.S.A. everybody is blowing this thing way out of proportion. oh yeah, and the ONE little kid who died in America was a little kid visiting relatives in texas. he came from Mexico to get here, that is where he caught it. its probably just gonna be another flu season. calm down. Side: No
For all of you people that don,t know. The Swine flu is just like every other flu. All of the people it has killed were all infants and the elderly. And the only reason that they died is their bodys aren't capalbe of handling it. anyone between 5 and around 65 can easliy defend against it. So don't worry. And just so you know all of the people it has killed so far, the common cold kills more then that in a week. Side: No
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This so called swine flu is all over the news, media, adverts , signs everywhere and is just another common tactic which fills the population with fear. It's a tactic commonly used to divert the majority of the population's mind off the real problems and cast it on to some bigger cover up. At the current moment you may or may not have realised the biggest global issue has been completely overshadowed by this swine flu, it has almost been forgotten. This of course is the recession; i watch the news and not once has the financial crisis been mentioned. Instead this swine flu is brainwashing the people into believing they are all going to be infected, with a "pandemic" to scare them. When people are afraid they consume, this is common fact. When people are afraid they put trust into someone, this trust of course is into the government, so whilst they are saying we should be afraid, they can do what they want. It is almost like they are invisible because everyone is too blind to look at the event with a different perception and to afraid to question the actual circumstances. People will consume, buying supplies, soap, medicine everything needed to stay at home. And without realising the government will most likely put taxes/prices up so they gain more money. This undoubtedly will continue because not many will realise and they are getting away with this scam because it is being overshadowed by "swine flu". They will get a ridiculous amount of money which would help the current problem. Some may say but how do the government get away with this? But if you look into the history of Britain, America and most of the western world, they have always used propaganda to make the public afraid. In America you had the aftermath of 9/11 when the government were going everywhere to make the public afraid of terrorist attacks even in the most rural remote places. In England we recently had 12 "terrorists" arrested a month ago when the head of anti-terrorism cocked up and showed crucial documents to photographers. So undoubtedly the story of the 12 terrorists took the lime-light and the real issue was this fool of a cop. This lead to people being afraid and yet again the government got away with it. Unlike the cold war the financial crisis is world wide and effects pretty much every country, so it's not just America and Britain in on this scandal. Fear is the biggest and most powerful tool anyone can have. At the moment the government are using this to manipulate the people by using swine flu. And because its new, people are afraid of change just as much as they are of the pandemic. I found a great quote the other day which fit's this issue " The greatest enemy to knowledge, is not ignorance... it is the illusion of knowledge". Don't be blinded by the lies the government says and media portraits or else they will have control of you. I have always said the government is just as corrupt as the criminals. This is what i believe. Side: No
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I think all this crap is a huge hoax. I've read quite a few articles onto what strains the actual flu are and some are pointing to man made strains. There is a lot to gain in the current global situation from a supposed pandemic. I really loved this article, specifically for it's attention to many items within the flu and it's history. http://articles.mercola.com/sites/ As for actual deaths, they are extremely limited and the media and much of the government are creating mountains out of mole hills. Side: No
Haha, this whole thing is reminding me of Stephen King's The Stand. Granted, it won't turn out like that... because that's scary. But I am starting to find it a little suspicious since the military is being involved in this. I think they have been anyway... handing out masks and all. When the military is involved, you usually think something bad is going on, and usually something the general public is being mislead about. Side: No
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Great book! And yes that would really be scary. The media is misleading us again...is that a big surprise?!! No. Either way, this will be a big hit to large ag businesses in the truth department. I'm sure they'll pay a lot of people to spin it into; see this is why we need the NAIS system and this is why we need more control on the food process. When in truth all the "bad" and "need to be regulated" problems we have is all on big ag. Side: No
You are correct sir, I've been trying to explain this to people for the last two days. Every flu strand is a "brand new strand never before seen," That's why we have to make new vaccines every year, That's why it's true that you never get the same flu twice, but you still get the flu more than once in your life (unless your me :0) There's a reason exactly 0 people who aren't infants or ancient have died from it. People have a better chance of being eaten by a shark, than dying of swine flu. there's also a good article on Narconews.com about where swine flu came from. Side: its been greatly exagerated
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There aren't many good reasons why we should be so worried, it's only killed one American: a toddler who had a weak immune system compared to other Americans. You should only worry if you are very young, very old or if you have a weak immune system due to a disease. It may be a pandemic, but it shouldn't be. Many Mexicans died, sure, but that's because they live in filthy conditions, many times cramped up with other people, so it's no surprise this disease spread quickly over there Side: No
I'm going to be a pain and speak to problems I have with the question before I even address the question. But that's just the way I am. Firstly, I think the word 'pandemic' has been beaten up and jostled around a little in this young 21st Century of ours. An old ratty paperback Webster's Dictionary I found calls 'pandemic' an adjective, referring to something "common to or characteristic of a whole people." A belief in democracy, then, can be considered 'pandemic' to the western world. A religion could be 'pandemic,' as could a general rule of thumb. A 2003 paperback edition of Webster's New World Dictionary, however, goes straight to the Big Ugly and calls 'pandemic,' "epidemic over a large region." (Interestingly, 'epidemic' in this definition is also being used an an adjective.) It would seem, then, that in this more recent definition 'pandemic' is ever bigger, meaner and nastier than 'epidemic.' I'm wondering if the advent of AIDS didn't require us to use 'pandemic' to mean something really, really scary. One problem with the question on the table, then, is that we're trying to take this thing we're calling a 'Swine Flu'- which in a nation of around 307 million people has claimed exactly one life (a 2-year old Mexican boy, tragically)- and we're trying to say, "To hell with 'epidemic,' let's go straight to frigging 'pandemic.' I find this to be a radically premature prediction, not to mention irresponsible and inappropriate. Problem #2 with the question is that this thing we're calling the Swine Flu- as I understand it- is not really the Swine Flu. One speculation I read was that (perhaps) a bird infected with the Bird Flu pooped into a pig sty. A pig infected with Swine Flu may have ingested the infected bird poop (accidentally, of course). Then a human infected with a Human Flu came in contact with the infected pig, resulting in a strain of flu for which- at the moment at least- we may have no vaccine for. But this is the way viruses are forever being born. And our bodies are forever serving as battle ground for chemical invaders and defenders to have at it, so that we might build immunities and get on with our lives. And we seem to be doing all the right things about it: Governments and medical experts are coming together, saying this may be a concern so we need to study it, runs lots of tests on those who seem to have it, and then respond to it (which is why we're reading so much about it in the papers). It's also been suggested that others who've fallen prey to this virus may be of a culture or cultures that tend to fear doctors, that some of these victims may be people who did not seek out medical treatment until they were at death's door. Poverty and little-or-no access to medical treatment are also probably playing a role. I wonder if when things seem to be going okay, that we don't sometimes feel compelled to seek out something to scare the bejesus out of us. Right now, the economy (they say) is slowly showing signs of rebound, President Obama has a plan in place to bring the kids home from Iraq, and we're all looking for fun and clever ways to spend a little stimulus money. Here in the Northeast we're having a nice spring. Perhaps we need to just relax a little, and remember that the old adage, "We have nothing to fear but fear itself," is pandemic to our culture. Side: No
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The media has blown this swine flu stuff wayyyy out of proportion. So many 'suspected' cases...'suspected' is just a government term for 'lets scare the public yay'. Everyone's pushed the panic button so hard, pandemics kill hundreds of people in the first week, swine flu has killed about 30 people in the last two months. All in the same country. Everyone should just caaaaaalm doooooown. It's obscene. Side: its been greatly exagerated
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/ The above is a fabulous article about the whole thing. It's really not as bad as people are taking it. And the most interesting fact is that 99% of the people that caught the flu in the US, were born in Mexico. Weird. Anyway, I'm wondering how something like this can change your perception of the person. For instance, all the people that went out and got those stupid masks right away and shut down the schools and shit.... I mean, is it saying that they're totally mindless or something? (Lack of a better word). Point being, as soon as they heard about the flu, they went all berserk as if it was the most dangerous thing in the world at that moment... makes it a little easier to understand why so many people believe things without questioning it first. Ridiculous. Side: No
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The swine flu is not particularly dangerous. In more developed countries, it is very rare for a person to die of any flue, much less the swine flu. With proper health care (although God knows this nation has very little of that), deaths from the swine flu should be minimal or less than deaths from any other flu. Side: No
Firstly, a large proportion of countries have stepped up measures at their airports to prevent the spread of the H1N1 flu. Anyone found to have been to affected countries, or have feverish temperatures are quarantined for a period of time, to prevent the virus from spreading to others. Secondly, a vaccine has already been developed. This shows that scientists mildly have a grasp of the H1N1 flu strain. Even if the flu strain were to develop further, scientists could work on the vaccine that they have developed, so as to continue to work on a newer vaccine. Side: No
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