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Yes, they are privileged How could that be possible?
Debate Score:26
Arguments:27
Total Votes:26
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Does Christian privilege in society exist?

In society, do you think of Christians as privileged? 

Yes, they are privileged

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How could that be possible?

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I'm sure that Christians enjoy certain privileges in Christian countries just as, let's say, Muslims enjoy privileges in Muslim countries.

One thing is for sure, I'd prefer to be a non Christian looking for a job in a Christian country than a Christian seeking employment in a non Christian country.

I suppose most people feel more comfortable employing, or associating with those of the same denomination as they know the characteristics and teachings of their religious beliefs.

Whilst the occasion never arose, as an employer of over 130 full time employees for 30 years I feel that, despite all the equal opportunity laws and anti racial/religious discrimination regulations I would have had a prejudice against any non Christians and would have employed them in preference to non Christians.

When one analyses the fortunes of predominately Christian nations one notices that most of the reasons for their success can be sourced to the innovation and work ethic of Christians and this may be another reason for Christians enjoying what is no more than a well deserved privileged position.

If we consider the computer as we're all using, the internet, electricity, the light bulb, the automobile, the internal combustion engine, the jet engine, aircraft, radio, television, the telephone, penicillin et cetera, et cetera, were all inventions of Christians I feel they deserve a little extra privilege regardless of their place of residence.

Side: Yes, they are privileged
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If we consider the computer as we're all using, the internet, electricity, the light bulb, the automobile, the internal combustion engine, the jet engine, aircraft, radio, television, the telephone, penicillin et cetera, et cetera, were all inventions of Christians I feel they deserve a little extra privilege regardless of their place of residence.

Though atheists have also contributed a lot, let's keep it to theists.

You know, much of the people who discriminated against others in colonial times were Christians. Jews were essentially hunted in the medieval period as murderers of Christ. I believe Hitler also voiced a similar motivation sometime, though not only this one.

The missionaries who travelled overseas mainly targeted those oppressed by the old religion rather than trying to convert all.

Also, natives over the world were oppressed by Christian colonisers. After that, you're boasting about Christians inventing a few things? Say, which religion you would expect to invent things in those times?

Side: How could that be possible?
Antrim(1287) Disputed
1 point

If the Bongos were exploitable, then it made good sense to exploit them.

Ahh, the poor Bongos were backward and the big bad Christians, along with many Muslim nations used them as free labour, not very nice, but wholly acceptable at the time.

Bongos were and still are backward.

The only time they enjoy reasonable living standards is when they're living in predominately White/Christian countries.

The Bongos never invented anything worth a tinker's damn and to this day they still point their begging bowls towards Christian nations when, through their own stupidity and inability to learn from experience such as when their crops perish or they fail to make provision for natural disasters.

Hurricanes blow their corrugated iron homes, held together with chewing gum/sticking plaster, away and the dumb Bongos replace them with dwellings made from exactly the same materials and primitive construction methods.

Why didn't the Bongo invent/discover things which contributed to the advancement and welfare of mankind throughout the ages?

Why didn't the African Bongo adventurers and visionaries, hungry for knowledge about the world in which they lived, embark on dangerous voyages of discovery into the unknown, sail the oceans of the world in days gone by and discover Christian Europe?

Why didn't they exploit the Christian white nations and enslave them?

Why do they to this day blame the white Christian nations for not providing them with free medicines for such maladies as aids and diseases spawned from poor hygiene and open sewage running through their towns and villages?

Why do they, as they've been doing for centuries, drink contaminated water and poison themselves?

Why do they still, after centuries of trying, not realise that crops do not grow in arid sand?

In 1000 years from now the Bongo will be bellyaching about the big bad white Christians and blaming them for their self made plight and we'll be forced to watch the sad eyed images of starving children with their hard luck stories dying of a range of diseases?

Other ethnic groups such as the Jews, the Irish and Asians can immigrate to the Christian nations of the world and become successful, why not the Bongo?

The aforementioned were all rhetorical questions of course, as we all know the answer.

Side: Yes, they are privileged
1 point

They are privileged, but not to the same extent as they once were. Some places though, like politics, you still see the privilege. No matter what party you're in or what your stance is on any particular subject, every person that runs for president is always sure to mention they are a Christian. Imagine an atheist attempting to run; sadly I don't see that going anywhere. Take a look at congress. Not a single person is known to be an atheist (though one is unaffiliated).

Fortunately many privileges are in the midst of being taken away (religious symbols on public buildings, belief they can discriminate due to their beliefs, etc...), but it will be a while (if ever) that they are put on an even playing field with others.

Side: Yes, they are privileged
NowASaint(1380) Clarified
1 point

Yeah, Obama claimed to be a Christian and by his associations and background, and even his middle name "Hussein", he's a Muslim...but really Obama was just whatever looked good on the camera at the moment. I think Obama is much more likely to be a Satanist or an atheist than a Muslim.....and he sure ain't no Christian. He just used whatever would bring the most voter support.

Very few politicians who claim to be Christian are what the Bible says a child of God is, and fewer Catholics are true Biblical Christians.

If you look at the history of our founding fathers and the procedures of congress and courthouses, Christian prayer and ministers were the norm in spite of the fact that many of the founders were deists and not Christians. This idea of banning all references to Christianity from public is modern, and in step with the moral decline of society as belief in meaningless of evolution and objective morality is replaced with situation ethics. This nation was never intended to reject Christianity and always welcomed it's practice, symbolism, and morality in all branches of government until recently.....and now we have rainbow spike haired faggot parades demanding we call them normal. Throw God out and replace Him with the religion of naturalism and pretend its' not religious, throw out morality, and by all means silence the Christians who say sin in any form is evil.

Side: Yes, they are privileged
1 point

Christians generally are not dope heads and perverts, and generally dress well and have good hygiene and good manners, so without telling employers or business associates that they are Christian the do have an automatic advantage over tattoo covered faggots spiked rainbow colored hair and nose rings in their ears.

Side: Yes, they are privileged
1 point

Well, depends what you mean and in what context.

I think it is somewhat the other way around now. Personally, when someone tells me they are a Christian, I try to look for faults to see if they might take advantage of me later on. I become cynical of them. The only reason why is because the vast majority of Christians I ran into are no different from you or me. There are very few and far between of those Christians that live a Christian life style.

I think today its more neutral than anything. Back in the day, however, if you were not a Christian, you were probably one of the few.

Side: How could that be possible?

No, it doesn't.

But still, I give you the benefit of doubt that you have no idea what you mean by society. It would depend.

Side: How could that be possible?
DS0330(267) Clarified
1 point

I give you the benefit of doubt that you have no idea what you mean by society.

I know what I mean by society.

Side: Yes, they are privileged
1 point

I know what I mean by society.

And what might that be?

Side: How could that be possible?
1 point

It depends on the society but in the USA I do believe there is and should be freedom of religion and that freedom erases all privilege with the exception of that which gets granted by what believers are willing to do to help other believers. And although someone might judge those who help people similar to themselves the fact of life is everybody does it all the time anyway, from university alumni to people from the same geography to fans of the same sports team. So I wouldn't call that privilege. I'd call it networking, or maybe even human nature.

If it gets institutionalized, meaning if the government starts funding Christian churches and no other religions' churces, then I'd say it's crossing the line to privilege.

Side: How could that be possible?
1 point

I guess it's hard to say without some context. I think there are many Christians who believe their faith should overrun the health and safety of the general public. But do they really have that privilege? Not fully, so I don't think they are privileged in that sense but it does feel like we walk a tight rope on what is acceptable in society and what steps on the toes of the religious.

Side: How could that be possible?
outlaw60(15368) Disputed
1 point

Christians faith has overrun health and safety of the general public ? What a WILD statement you made there !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Side: Yes, they are privileged
Mint_tea(4641) Disputed
1 point

Read again what I wrote.

Side: How could that be possible?
1 point

In America, Christian privilege, Hindu Privilege, Jewish privilege, Atheist privilege, etc. are ALL supposed to exist. That's Freedom of Religion! To many people think only THEIR religion should have freedom and make the rules. We swear to uphold the Constitution in his country, NOT the Bible or the Qur'an, or, or, or.

Side: How could that be possible?
outlaw60(15368) Disputed
1 point

Why might you have missed the Muslims there AL ?????????????

Side: Yes, they are privileged

Nope. If you are a Christian, the left has turned you into an Islamophobic bigot who rams your virtue down their throats. So now the Regressive left is Christianophobic and? Rams their version of virtue down our throats...

Side: How could that be possible?

PROGRESSIVE SERMON FOR THE DAY -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJWNoJnML-8

Side: How could that be possible?