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Yes, I Can Clearly See That These are Just Coincidences
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Does God Identify Countries Leading WW3 By The Colors On Their Flags?

Is it a coincidence that middle Eastern Countries each possess flags that are the colors of the four horses in Revelations? 

White Horse - Obama won the Nobel Peace Prize (2009) ..... Why? 

Could he be a Trojan Horse in the White House? Has Obama brought peace? 

Or has he brought "false peace?" 

1 Thessalonians 5:3

While they are saying, “Peace and safety!” then destruction will come upon them suddenly like labor pains upon a woman with child, and they will not escape.

https://goo.gl/images/IA2Nyo

Yes, I Can Clearly See That

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These are Just Coincidences

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Revelation 6:4

And another, a red horse, went out; and to him who sat on it, it was granted to take peace from the earth, and that men would slay one another; and a great sword was given to him.

Side: Yes, I Can Clearly See That
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Revelation 6:1

[ The First Seal—Rider on White Horse ] Then I saw when the Lamb broke one of the seven seals, and I heard one of the four living creatures saying as with a voice of thunder, “Come.”

I looked, and behold, a white horse, and he who sat on it had a bow; and a crown was given to him, and he went out conquering and to conquer.

Revelation 6:4

And another, a red horse, went out; and to him who sat on it, it was granted to take peace from the earth, and that men would slay one another; and a great sword was given to him.

Revelation 6:5

[ The Third Seal—Famine ] When He broke the third seal, I heard the third living creature saying, “Come.” I looked, and behold, a black horse; and he who sat on it had a pair of scales in his hand.

Revelation 6:8

I looked, and behold, an ashen horse; and he who sat on it had the name Death; and Hades was following with him. Authority was given to them over a fourth of the earth, to kill with sword and with famine and with pestilence and by the wild beasts of the earth.

[Fyi - the Greek χλωρός (chlōros). Ashen - "green]

Side: Yes, I Can Clearly See That

Except Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Qatar, Pakistan, Oman, Israel, Iran and Azerbaijan... etc. etc. Those are the one's I know of, and some from a quick google search. I'm sure there are more examples of middle eastern countries that have other colors.

Side: These are Just Coincidences
KNHav(1957) Disputed
1 point

That is interesting

So all 4 horse colors are in all these - Jordan, Palestinian, Sudan, Kuwate, UAE, Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan, Syria

And Turkey is only Red and a little white.

And Saudi Arabia and Pakistan all green with some white. So which is the red horse?

Do you think they may be even more specifically identified. Red horse is war, some are all green, so do you think possibly that is how specific God is?

He identified their parts by the color of their flag!

Obama Countries of "origin" at least in his world view.

Indonesia white and black, Kenya white red black green.

So then God is even more specifically identifying some.

Nice try though!

Revelation 6:1

[ The First Seal—Rider on White Horse ] Then I saw when the Lamb broke one of the seven seals, and I heard one of the four living creatures saying as with a voice of thunder, “Come.”

I looked, and behold, a white horse, and he who sat on it had a bow; and a crown was given to him, and he went out conquering and to conquer.

Revelation 6:4

And another, a red horse, went out; and to him who sat on it, it was granted to take peace from the earth, and that men would slay one another; and a great sword was given to him.

Revelation 6:5

[ The Third Seal—Famine ] When He broke the third seal, I heard the third living creature saying, “Come.” I looked, and behold, a black horse; and he who sat on it had a pair of scales in his hand.

Revelation 6:8

I looked, and behold, an ashen horse; and he who sat on it had the name Death; and Hades was following with him. Authority was given to them over a fourth of the earth, to kill with sword and with famine and with pestilence and by the wild beasts of the earth.

[Fyi - the Greek χλωρός (chlōros). Ashen - "green]

Side: Yes, I Can Clearly See That
shoutoutloud(4303) Clarified
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These are a few countries whose flags have the color combination red, blue and white. Iceland, Faroe Islands, Norway, UK, USA, France, Australia, New Zealand, Haiti, North and South Korea, Russia, Thailand, Slovenia, Slovakia, Luxembourg.

You are telling me that nine countries have the color combination of green, red, black and white has something to do with a prophecy? Those are extremely common colors, and not a whole lot of countries. Nine... nine countries. Not even enough to create the Ten-Nation Confederacy.

Side: Yes, I Can Clearly See That
Mint_tea(4641) Disputed
1 point

Ashen- Resembling ashes, especially in color. It would be a pale, almost grayish color or a mist green. And in fact many bibles actually call it a pale horse. Not the bright and vibrant green of the flags you refer to. Ashen may also be a very pale blue or gray but most typically think they mean a pale green like a quiet mist over a meadow in the early morning.

In terms of flags. Black, White, Blue, Green and Red are some of the easiest colors to make in terms of dye. They can also be symbolic of what the people see, green would be symbolic of land, agriculture, growth....blue for freedom, perseverance, peace. White for peace, purity, unity, innocence.....

Side: These are Just Coincidences
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This is the bullshit I am talking about. There are no countries with flags as described by the four horsemen. Obama can't be one if the horsemen, he is leaving office. Everything you claim matches the bible didn't match it at all.

Side: These are Just Coincidences
KNHav(1957) Disputed
1 point

I guess you didnt watch the video.

Four Horses of Revelations?

This is interesting

https://youtu.be/-K8rYPWFPI4

So all 4 horse colors are in all these - Jordan, Palestinian, Sudan, Kuwate, UAE, Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan, Syria

And Turkey is only Red and a little white.

And Saudi Arabia and Pakistan all green with some white. So which is the red horse?

Do you think they may be even more specifically identified. Red horse is war, some are all green, so do you think possibly that is how specific God is?

He identified their parts by the color of their flag!

Obama Countries of "origin" at least in his world view. Indonesia white and black, Kenya white red black green.

So then God is even more exclusive by color to the horse in identifying some of the front runners. .

Side: Yes, I Can Clearly See That
Cartman(18192) Disputed
1 point

Every country is all four horsemen. That's what you are trying to tell us. You are also trying to tell us the current president has started world war 3 because he won a Nobel peace prize. I am not going to watch the video presented along side an idiotic argument.

Side: These are Just Coincidences
KNHav(1957) Disputed
1 point

Obama already was the white horse. He road in 2008 and won nobel peace price 2009. (Trojan Horse - every policy)

Has Obama brought peace?

Or is this a sign, the man who brought the least peace, domestic and abroad ironically wins Nobel Peace Prize, internationally recognized.

Like God hung a neon sign on him for all to see!

And then rejects the whore of Babylon, lifting her skirt and revealing every evil conspiracy, out in the open showing the liberal left and iran and media and globalization, abortion, murders, greed, theft, treason, etc etc etc etc ...how many things can you fit under her skirt? A lot apparantly!

The He selects Trump against all odds and puts neon signs on him!

Coincidences? Or is are you witnessing Revelations unfolding?

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Side: Yes, I Can Clearly See That
Cartman(18192) Disputed
1 point

Obama has created more peace than Bush.

Not coincidences. Coincidences are where things actually happen.

Side: These are Just Coincidences
1 point

lolololol. Just ridiculous.

All the flags of nations in the world are a combo of less than a dozen colors and those are smattered all across the globe in pretty much every combination imaginable. It's pure coincidence that some just happen to be the colors mentioned in the Bible.

Side: These are Just Coincidences
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The problem is when you try to take coincidences and turn them into evidence. In any court that wouldn't hold up. There are a hundreds of different countries and a number of easily made colors. Red, white, blue are among the most used colors simply because they are the easiest to print (like white) and prime colors (red and blue) which traditionally used dyes that were easier to make quickly but showed prestige. Others use the same colors of a "mother" country, ie....the modern Thai flag is red, white and blue because it wanted the colors (or at least the blue) of the allied countries (Britian, France, Russia, USA.)

Side: These are Just Coincidences
Dermot(5736) Banned
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Oh dear , this is complete and utter nonsense I wouldn't shout it out loud in public or you may not see daylight for quiet some time ....

Side: These are Just Coincidences
KNHav(1957) Disputed
1 point

So, not sure if you believe in God, and the Bible.

If you do then what do you think God will do to warn us and prepare us? This is all reasonable prophesy interpretation. And previous 2000 prophesies have been fulfilled so we would expect Him to finish. He orchestrated all kinds of things to bring Israel back to their land. And many of those people will live again. Those who looked for the Messiah will likely be there with the church and the remnant left in Israel after ww3.

You can be a skeptic, I will not because I see the Bible as confirmed as evident, and a greater reality a more real reality than this world.

Side: Yes, I Can Clearly See That
Dermot(5736) Disputed Banned
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I don't believe in a god or gods and I certainly don't believe in the bible .

You make a statement 2000 prophesies have been fulfilled I don't believe that, also you believe the bible as confirmed evident and a greater reality than this world ?

The bible is littered with contradictions and to be frank childish nonsense also it's possibly the most immoral book ever written .

Side: These are Just Coincidences