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Yes, he does because No, he does not because
Debate Score:84
Arguments:77
Total Votes:105
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Does God force us to believe?

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Most atheists say, "Why, of course he does" because if you don't believe you are punished for it.

All thesists say, "He does not" and some of them claim that he doesn't force us because he gave us free will.

What do you think, does God force us to believe or not, and why do you think this?

God on a  cloud saying I don't remember predetermining that

Yes, he does because

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No, he does not because

Side Score: 52
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All thesists say, "He does not" and some of them claim that he doesn't force us because he gave us free will.

I'm a theist and I believe that God "forces" us to believe. Though the word "forces" has a negative connotation to it, it is still, in a sense, true.

Side: Yes, he does because
Cartman(18192) Disputed
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Does that mean we don't have free will?

Side: No, he does not because
lolzors93(3225) Disputed
1 point

That means we perceive ourselves to have free will; however, in the absolute sense, we do not.

Side: Yes, he does because
Akulakhan(2973) Disputed
1 point

And what about babies who die before they get the chance to be forced into believing?

Side: No, he does not because
lolzors93(3225) Disputed
1 point

If those babies were God's elect, then they go to heaven. If they are not, then they will not go to heaven.

Side: Yes, he does because
Jc41218(1560) Disputed
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What do you mean by that? ------------------------------------------

Side: No, he does not because
lolzors93(3225) Disputed
1 point

God predestines people. That is what the Bible says and that is what reason says.

Side: Yes, he does because
3 points

No he does not if he did "force" us we would all believe in him and there are atheist therefore God does not make us believe in him.

Side: No, he does not because
lolzors93(3225) Disputed
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Do you believe in the Bible? Are you a Christian?

Side: Yes, he does because
Jc41218(1560) Clarified
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This has nothing to do about the debate just the fact that there are atheists' disproves it if we are all Christians it might be true.

Side: Yes, he does because
2 points

He doesn't force you to. I may be an atheist but I still know blackmail when I see it..!

Side: No, he does not because
Quocalimar(6469) Disputed
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Black mail isn't force?

Even if it isn't he created the evidence that he'd use against you.

Side: Yes, he does because
Jungelson(3931) Disputed
2 points

I didn't say he did force us. Only blackmail. My point is, if " dedicate your lives to worshiping me and playing by my rules, or burn in hell for eternity" isn't slightly forceful, then you have the wool pulled so far over your eyes you're tripping over it.

Side: No, he does not because
Jungelson(3931) Clarified
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Oh sorry I misunderstood the question mark. Well blackmail is so devious as it is not a literal force. You have a choice, but the alternative is so bad you automatically pick what the blackmailer wants you to do. I'm slightly lost as to what eve I'm talking about now..! Point is, God does not force you to believe in him, he gives you a choice. But it's not much of a choice, is it? But I'm fine, as I don't believe in God. But I suppose we'll all find out in the end. Or not, if we simply die you won't find out anything..

Optimism :)

Side: Yes, he does because

If he truly forced us then he would make himself 100% known. Meaning that he would have to be visible or tangible.

Side: No, he does not because
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God doesn't force us to believe in Him because that would make God a puppet and controlling us but He doesn't do that. God gave us free will to believe in Him or go along our own paths.

Side: No, he does not because
lolzors93(3225) Disputed
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So did God predestine anything?

Side: Yes, he does because
Srom(12202) Disputed
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What do you mean by predestine?

Side: No, he does not because
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It is simple, no matter how you cut it, God is giving us a choice. He has no direct control over us.

Side: No, he does not because
Quocalimar(6469) Disputed
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An ultimatum in any real world case is considered force.

A criminal that gives you the ultimatum of dying or doing what they say is considered to be forcing you.

Why is that any different than God who gives you the ultimatum to follow him, or go to hell?

Side: Yes, he does because

How would an imaginary figure force anyone to believe anything? Nobody can even attest to seeing this figure none the less force anyone to doing anything.

Side: No, he does not because
lolzors93(3225) Disputed
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The Apostles or Christ could attest to God being real.

Side: Yes, he does because

ok atheist if you don't believe in god then to questioning hem!

Side: No, he does not because
CreateAFakeD Disputed
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God is a figment of your imagination. A dream of a stoner who had paper, pencil, and a lot of time to create a new language.

Side: Yes, he does because

It is up to a human being to believe. If someone believes, his/her faith cannot be stifled.

Side: No, he does not because

Nope, god only tells you to worship him to see if you are worthy to go to heaven.

Side: No, he does not because
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What God? the God of the bible? As far as I can tell he's the only one who demands warship but, doesn't force you to believe in him. If there is a God, you shouldn't acknowledge any kind of personality in him because he either has none or is the sum of all personalities all in one. Which is good for everyone.

Side: No, he does not because
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It's more like the judaism God is stating "Believe in me, you have a choice ("free-will"; that is choice to us to choose either way). If you don't believe in me by not making your choice to believe in me, you will send yourselves to 'hell'" It's more of a set guidelines and humans put themselves into situations, apparently.

And so, there is no forcing necessary by God. Think of it as God pressing the first domino of life, and then God sitting back and watching the pieces "it" set in motion; whilst giving the opportunity of a human (with apparent free-will) to choose to believe in God, or not. And also apparently, God intervenes and guides those humans that which seek out to "it"; "God is always there, one must choose to see 'it', or not"

It seems as though God put the choices up to us.

Side: No, he does not because