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Does McCain have even the slighest chance?

McCain catches up in recent polls

Yea, maybe. You never know

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Well, I do think that Obama is going to win, but I also wouldn't be entirely shocked if McCain proved victorious. (I am a raging democrat and Obama supporter by the way.)

Side: Yea, maybe. You never know
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Below is a list of 8 reasons Barack just might lose. From a democratic point of view. I believe each reason is valid. Keep in mind this is coming from the author of,

8 reasons why Obama will run for president in 2008.

8 reasons why Barack Obama will win the Democratic nomination.

1."Bittergate."

Obama has been remarkably disciplined in his campaign, but his one "oh, no, he didn't!?" moment was a doozy -- his unscripted comment in April that "it's not surprising [that residents of small-town America] get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy toward people who aren't like them."

2.He's played too much defense.

Though Obama's campaign has run bazillions of ads criticizing McCain, they've stayed away from trying to raise questions about McCain's character and his judgment—questions the McCain campaign has been raising relentlessly about Obama and that Obama has had to answer.

It's absurd, for instance, that more ink has been spilled about the judgment Obama showed in the 1990s when working on education reform with former Vietnam-era radical Bill Ayers than about McCain's judgment in 2002 and 2003 to cheerlead for the invasion of Iraq.

3.He was more dismissive than responsive to festering issues.

When questions came up about Obama's real estate dealings with crooked fundraiser Tony Rezko, he tried to brush them off with curt denials rather than bury them with documents and comprehensive answers.

Ditto his lackluster and in places inaccurate responses to concerns about his votes on "born-alive infant" legislation when he was in the Illinois Senate and demands that he give a full accounting of his personal and professional interactions with Ayers.

4.He left points on the table.

Most of you know about Obama's sleazy associate Tony Rezko. But how many of you know about McCain's sleazy associate Rick Renzi?

McCain named Renzi, a retiring Republican congressman, a co-chair of his Arizona campaign in January, even though the Wall Street Journal and other publications had reported he was the subject of a federal corruption probe.

Renzi was indicted in February and is facing trial. Yet the Obama campaign, apparently content to try to sit on this lead, hasn't made an issue of him or of McCain's friendship with convicted Watergate burglar G. Gordon Liddy, who once urged his radio listeners to "go for a head shot" if federal agents came to take their guns away.

5.Biden's blunder.

Yes, foreign evildoers tend to test new presidents. But when Obama's veepmate, Sen. Joe Biden, blathered on recently about an inevitable crisis in the first months of an Obama administration, it gave McCain a fat opening to highlight security concerns, one of his few winning issues, and play the fear card.

6.The economy now looks more like a chronic woe than an urgent crisis.

This has allowed McCain to settle into an anti-tax, anti-spend, anti-liberal campaign groove that often works for Republicans.

7. Smoke.

I've never seen a candidate subject to as many nutty rumors and guilt-by-association smears as those about Obama that land in my in-box every day. If enough voters decide in the end that there must be fire somewhere in all that noxious smoke, Obama's apparent lead will vanish.

8. He's African-American.

Let's be honest. In this rotten year for the Republican brand, if a white Democrat were sitting in the polls where Obama now sits, this "how he might lose" talk would be absurd.

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It's the 8th one that gets me and it gets me where I live! I have been waiting all my life for either a viable woman or black man to step up to the arduous task of running for high office and not be cut off at the pass, so to speak. This was the year we had both and what a time it's been thus far.

8. He's African-American.

Let's be honest. In this rotten year for the Republican brand, if a white Democrat were sitting in the polls where Obama now sits, this "how he might lose" talk would be absurd."

This is the final hurdle Barack Obama must be able to clear lest we lose the the fourth quarter. There's no tie-breakers and no sudden-death in this election. I take that back...there is "Sudden Death" but not in a sporting way...in a way that would be unthinkable. I believe he is the only black man that can clear the hurdle and win this race. What the author is saying is that if not for this one thing, the other 7 wouldn't matter at all! The sickening thing is that if, by some chance, he does lose...they can hang their hats on any of the items on the list and never reveal their true prejudice. That would be an injustice of the highest order in today's world.

Side: I believe it will be Obama
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I suppose it will depend on which racists turn out. The African-American ones (shown in the Stern vid) or the KKK, redkneck ones. Isn't that a sad truth?

Side: Yea, maybe. You never know
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well, the Neo Nazis and KKK never vote for a major party, but they may realize that if they don't vote McCain, they'll have a black (well, half black) in the white house. and since they are retarded, they probably think he's muslim too. they don't see the white protestant in Barack, just the Black Muslim.

LOL, the only time where the Republicans may be okay with a white supremacist vote... they may even have to place trolls to point out the fact that Obama is a half black (possibly muslim) person who will become their president if they don't vote Republican.

w/e, as long as McCain wins, i'm down.

Side: Yea, maybe. You never know
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McCain still has a chance at winning. Like I've stated in past arguments polls cannot give a sure win. You never know what could happen in the next 48 hours and McCain is probably closer in the polls than many predict. This election may also be another "Bradly", because you never know what people are going to do in the privacy of the voting booth. Barack Obama does not have a definite win until every vote has been counted after November 4, 2008 and he hits that magical 270.

Side: Yea, maybe. You never know
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There will be tons of disenfranchised voters this time around, especially in key states. More than in 2004 and 2000 when Bush also lost but still won. Hopefully by the sheer massive numbers of people coming out for Obama, the scandelous tactics being used to keep dems away from the polls will not matter. I'm not counting any eggs yet though.

Side: Yea, maybe. You never know

It has been written about recently that the Democratic voters are going to face disenfranchisement in large numbers in this election. If that happens...this Government will be in hot lava trouble up to its ears!

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Either way you never REALLY know. I don't know if i had to guess i would say an obama victory(unfortunately). Its one thing to say obama will probably win but of course McCain has a chance.

Side: Yea, maybe. You never know
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It is entirely feasible that McCain will win this election. The polls are too close and they have been wrong before. The deciding factors in presidential debates have never been the popular opinion anyway.

Side: Yea, maybe. You never know

No. Not unless some drastic unforeseen event occurs that changes the whole landscape of the election.

I don't look at individual polls when looking to see who is going to win. A meta-data poll takes into account all of the polls and is therefore more reliable and accurate.

Supporting Evidence: Probability that Obama Wins (election.princeton.edu)
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I'm not at all certain but I believe Obama will win the election. The early votes seem to be coming in heavy on the Democratic side but I'm not certain that's an indication of what's going to happen on the 4th. You know I'm for Senator Obama but you never know. If the politically challenged show up in numbers we can't possibly imagine McCain can still pull it out but that's a fairly medium to long shot. Let's see if this country is truly ready for the first BLACK PRESIDENT in our history! I pray it is.

Side: I believe it will be Obama
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I know the country is ready, but are they willing? You should check out the "8 Reasons Obama might lose" post I just left. I am starting to see a light for McCain. A small, dim, narrow sliver of light...

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I cannot oppose you on this but I will say that I've seen similar stuff going around for weeks on end. I don't think McCain can pull an upset in this election for two main reasons. His platform and Sarah Palin. Every day I read all the hoopla surrounding both candidates and it would seem as though McCain shot himself in the foot with his VP pick and that Iraq is a very, very unpopular and itchy subject for most people right now. I don't think JMcC has the patience to get bin Laden without a great amount of casualties in the bargain. I also think that HE wants to be the guy to get him. not the Pakistanis or the Afghan's. I don't think it much matters to Obama who gets him as long as he's gotten!!!

This week-end some are talking landslide for Obama. I don't know if that will happen but I do think he will win it. In the end it may come down to Democrats vs. Republicans and if it does...Obama will be our next President because no one wants to have anyone in there who was so closely aligned with George Bush and his agenda.

Side: I believe it will be Obama
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The polls are showing an almost guaranteed win for Obama. If you don't trust polls, the prediction markets are showing the same thing -- and with them you have people putting their money on the line.

I think Obama has a much better organized and passionate get out the vote effort. Personally I'm hoping this will lead to even more of an Obama landslide than people are expecting.

That said, I still have some lingering doubts. In 2004 I thought there was no way Bush would be reelected after he got us stuck in Iraq. ...But then again Kerry was a pretty lame candidate.

Well, I already voted. Nothing left to do but wait and see.

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Every poll I have seen lately is showing McCain down by 5% and under...

Take note, I said lately...

This happens in all elections...Who can predict?

HOW DID BUSH GET REELECTED!?!?

I thought America was smarter, truly I did.

So I guess this gives hope for the old guy!

Side: Yea, maybe. You never know
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If the election is rigged...

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It is now 2015 and McCain could not have beaten Obama back in 2008.

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