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Does becoming atheist automatically make you 'Intelligent'?
Whenever any atheist engages in a debate with a believer, their whole style is some imposive thing like "Hey i am intelligent than you, i have set the bar high automatically because i am atheist, i don't have to explain anything, you have to take any question i have for you and you will have to think to impress me and at the same time i can choose to listen or not(bigotry)"
I mean for this misconception, many even extreme morons have become atheists so they can be seen as intelligent and expect a believer to be intimidated in an argument by merely, his belief state and what society misconcepts about it.
An atheist will be like "you believe in God?, then you must totally ignore and hate science(euphemism of you're dumb or i'm smarter than you)"
Meanwhile i know plenty atheists who don't even understand science(even the definition), and also do not present objective research but that which supports their belief and they cannot even defend the research and don't even dare scruitinize it(shaky grounds) because they usually have a secret suspicion the research itself might be a hoax.
They will totally ignore an intelligent argument as long it has come to scruitinize their "alleged scientific research", contradict it especially when it comes from an individual with a persona tag 'believer'.
Regardlesss if the 'believer' is four times intelligent than the atheist.
By the way i also want to know in the atheism dictionary is the synonym for 'Intelligence'....'bigotry'?
No one can choose to be atheist. You either believe in God or you do not. If someone doesn't believe in God but still go to church and tries to convince themselves there is a God, is still an atheist. Therefore, the process of becoming atheist can also not be a choice.
The average atheist is statistically more intelligent than the average Christian. However, I see the reason to believe that the transition from Christian to Atheist means they are more intelligent than others.
Explain how among top 10 highest IQ's, 6 are christians, 2 other religions and 2 atheists??
So because you have become atheist, you automatically became far intelligent than those 6 christians in the top 10 highest IQ's and every believer on CD?
No, as I explained already, becoming an atheist does not make you more intelligent.
Explain how among top 10 highest IQ's, 6 are christians, 2 other religions and 2 atheists??
I learnt that in maybe 7th grade - you'd think I had have forgotten it but it is actually just common sense. There are 7 billion humans on Earth. If we want to draw conclusions about them we must make a random sample that is random enough and big enough to represent those 7 billion. Selecting choosing the most intelligent, and only 10 of them, is not a representative sample. Hope you understand. I generally teach younger children than 7th grade so not sure how well I have explained it.
Well this is what we have now and it was random of no bias preferences.
The point is, if christians are so dumb, why would anyone, anyone at all in the recognised category of highly intelligent persons be still a christian....not even agnostic but believer...
Plus these people were never atheists:
Albert Einstein,
Thomas Ed...,
Isaac Newton,
Lord Kelvin,
George Cuvier,
Leonardo Da Vinci,
They all believed in the existence of God uniquely some with and without religious tags.
But no one is saying Christians are dumb except when it comes to ones like you Now A Stain and Foam Within .
So you only believe something if someone intelligent believes it ,
so the historian Vasari who knew Leonardo said ......
"Leonardo formed in his mind a conception so heretical as not to approach any religion whatsoever .....perhaps he esteemed being a philosopher much more than being a Christian "
Vasari ,1560
Also I've corrected you many times on Einsteins religious views but yet you keep lying , whys that ?
Einstein thought biblical believers like you childish and superstitious , I totally agree ....
The word God is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weakness, the Bible a collection of honorable, but still purely primitive, legends which are nevertheless pretty childish. No interpretation, no matter how subtle, can change this for me. For me the Jewish religion like all other religions is an incarnation of the most childish superstition. And the Jewish people to whom I gladly belong, and whose thinking I have a deep affinity for, have no different quality for me than all other people. As far as my experience goes, they are also no better than other human groups, although they are protected from the worst cancers by a lack of power. Otherwise I cannot see anything "chosen" about them.
I agree. Believing in God is not a disability to causes you to be stupid. I have met many highly intelligent Christians - unfortunately not on this site though. It isn't fair to assume that someone is stupid because they are Christian anymore than it is fair to assume assume a black person is stupid - even though they have on average lower IQs.
We can however say that stupid people tend to believe in God because the average IQ is less or else that intelligent people are more likely not to believe. I personally see no real life application for this fact though.
You are yet one more Homosexual person on this site that is an anti Christian bigot. I have found that the great majority of vocal anti Christian bigots on these debate sites are Gay, because their insecurity hates if anyone else's faith teaches Homosexuality to be a sin.
GET OVER IT! Why care what other's believe if you are secure with who you are?
We all know how the Left constantly judges Christians. We are secure with our faith, and have no need to pass laws forcing every state to sanction it.
because their insecurity hates if anyone else's faith teaches Homosexuality to be a sin.
How do you think many Christians treat homosexuals? Do you think if you are constantly being told your lifestyle is a sin and your actions will lead you to hell, just because of who you love, you would embrace religion? Especially with how many Christian act towards homosexuals.
Why care what other's believe if you are secure with who you are?
Well then why do you care if he's an anti-Christian bigot?
(Not saying he is but that's what you called him)
Basically to put it in reverse, you are disgusted and annoyed by a thought that what you are (a Christian) means you lack intelligence. You feel attacked by it. Don't you think homosexuals feel attacked when some Christians are constantly saying they are sinners and going to hell? You dislike the anti-Christian bigots as much as they dislike Christian bigots.
I don't mean this as a dispute, but I would like for you see that your anger at being represented in a way you don't necessarily feel is accurate, is how they feel too.
Do you think if you are constantly being told your lifestyle is a sin and your actions will lead you to hell, just because of who you love, you would embrace religion?
That is why it is a choice.
That up there is education not rebuke.
you can make your choice afterwards.
"Well then why do you care if he's an anti-Christian bigot?"
You see that word in bold?
It has everything to do with him and he can't resist to care.
You know what many Anti-Wests have done to America right?
@Mint_tea, How do you think many Christians treat homosexuals? Do you think if you are constantly being told your lifestyle is a sin and your actions will lead you to hell, just because of who you love, you would embrace religion? Especially with how many Christian act towards homosexuals.
You are brainwashed to always miss the obvious point of the constant victimology from the Gay community. You and those who think like you feed right into all the PC rhetoric.
NEWSFLASH FOR THE THOUSANTS TIME. CHRISTIANS ARE NOT JUDGING HOMOSEXUALS FOR THEIR SIN OF HOMOSEXUALITY.
We are standing up for our faith when Gay activists constantly try to sanction their unnatural sexual orientation onto the Christian Church.
They have sued Churches to allow Gay Sinday school teachers.
They have tried to force Churches to marry Gay people.
They have tried to force Christian familiy owned businesses to cater gay wedding receptions.
THIS IS THE ONLY REASON CHRISTIANS SPEAK OUT AGAINST THE ACTIVIST GAY COMMUNITY WHO HAVE FORCED EVERY STATE, AGAINST THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE, TO CHANGE THEIR MARRIAGE LAWS.
Christians could not care less what people do in their own lives as long as they stop trying to twist our Christian faith to sanction Homosexuality as no longer being a sin.
PLEASE GET A BRAIN AND UNDERSTAND WHAT IS GOING ON IN THIS NATION.
You can't even concede that your anger at them is much like their anger at Christians. So I wouldn't be pointing fingers at who is brainwashed at this moment.
Let's flip this, shall we?
Churches have denied them the opportunity to not only work for them but to teach about the Lord simply because Church goers don't like their lifestyle.
Christians have denied them the right to marry, to gain the government benefits, and to celebrate their union in the eyed of the Lord.
Christian venues, while owning a public store, have denied them a right to service simply because of who they love.
(The last one I'm still iffy on, it's their business so it may be their right, it may not be, I can see both sides)
If the gay community was given the same rights as the Christian community there would be very little to have to speak out against.
Christians could not care less what people do in their own lives as long as they stop trying to twist our Christian faith to sanction Homosexuality as no longer being a sin.
That's utter horse crap, I am 99% certain in a debate on this site alone, several Christian members said homosexuals shouldn't have the ability to adopt. That's using Christian faith to dictate who can and can't have a family. I can't say you said it because I don't recall who did but that is a mantra many Christians take.
The "CHURCH" is not the one fighting for a family owned business the freedom to not cater things that go against their faith. That would be the family!
The "CHURCH" is not the one that denied them the right to marry. That would be the courts and the American people who understand biology.
Are you so stupid to not understand how any Church should have the freedom to refuse to allow people, who are openly supporting lifestyles totally opposite to the Christian teachings of that church, to work for them?
Every employer in the world does this but activist Gays don't like the obvious rules of the Church of lifting up the word of God rather than the word of activist Gays.
Christians have always had the right to give their opinions on important issues effecting the well being of our children. We understand that the best nurturing environment for any child is having a mother and father raising them, not two fathers which goes against all norms of biology.
Political correct control fanatics would silence the voice of Christians. You are very scary and the very reason Christians fight against this PC activism.
You are very scary and the very reason Christians fight against this PC activism.
That's funny, I always thought the closed minded, short sighted mentality you constantly display was a bit frightening. Christianity must evolve to include differences to stay relevant. There are things we must fight to keep and things we must fight to change but if you refuse to budge on anything then the mindset you have will eventually be the death of your belief.
WOW, you just prooved everything I have been saying about the Left and the Godless, and how their values shift with the times.
You have no rock solid moral foundation to hold to because deep down you believe in nothing but yourself and your convienences in life. Your values constantly change based on man's so called evolved political correctness. When Leftwing fake news tells you to jump, you ask how high.
Look how quickly the Progressive Left conditioned you to believe that even viable late term babies have no right to life. YOU CALL THIS A GOOD THING WHEN MANKIND EVOLVES WITH THE POLITICAL CORRECT TIMES SO AS TO STAY RELEVANT?
You want the Christian Church to deny God's word for the sake of staying relevant? LOL, how lost can you be? You would have Christians sell their souls to be liked by the world. That is 100% the surest way for them to ruin their lives as so many millions are doing today.
Your so called relevance is runing people's lives. The world's so called evolved values lead to broken homes, alcoholism, drug ddiction, unwed mothers, fatherless children, depression, etc. etc. and here you are telling us this is staying relevant?
Here's a newsflash case you have never read the Bible. In the end times, people will fall away from God, choosing the selfish world, rejecting what they know in their hearts to be good and true, just as you are telling Christians to do.
Here's a sample of staying relevant in this new age political correct world....
Kill vialbe late term special needs babies for merely being different and diverse. (they are no longer welcome or relevant in this enlightened evolved world, and you have the nerve to call me closed minded?)
Force every public school to allow boys who think they are girls into our daughter's bathrooms.
Forcing every State to change their marriage laws to lift up all sorts of unnatural sexual orientations as being perfectly natural and normal.
Trying to strip away Christian freedoms by forcing them to cater things that go against their faith.
You are saying Christians must evolve, to follow man's new age humanistic evolutionary times, or become irrelevant? ROFLOL, it's as if Satan himself is speaking through you.
You are the perfect example of a lost world Christ speaks to in the Bible.
The world will come crashng down in the end. It wll be those who reject Christ that become irrelevant in the end.
You have no rock solid moral foundation to hold to because deep down you believe in nothing
So, in your opinion, not believing a myth about a giant omnipotent being who lives in the sky means we believe in nothing? Have you ever heard of a fallacy called false dichotomy? Personally, I believe in everything which is evidenced through either science or reason.
If you have ever studied biology -- which clearly you haven't -- you would know of a behaviour displayed by many species called altruism. Since altruism is present in species which have not burdened themselves with religion one can safely assume that religion is not responsible for it.
You have no rock solid moral foundation to hold to because deep down you believe in nothing but yourself and your convienences in life.
Don't presume to suggest that you know me or are an expert in my life. I believe in a great many things, including treating others who believe differently than I do with the kindness and dignity they deserve. I know several Atheists, including family members, who act more "Christian" than you, even with no God to guide them their morality and decency speaks very well for who they are and what they believe, or don't.
So far your only answer to the problems that we are having is to shame a lifestyle. If you think that is even remotely close to a cure-all for it then you don't really have a grasp of the actual problems. Yes, we should be teaching morals and responsibility. There is a sad lack of respect being taught in this day and age and that needs to be addressed but that is not the only answer.
You are trying to use your belief to impede others, to deny them the chance to live their life with the one they love in the eyes of God (if they are religious) and you try to justify it by comparing the love between two consensual adults to bestiality and pedophilia? Come on. So far the only care you show for humanity is when it's in the womb.
FOR THE MILLIONTH TIME NO ONE IS TRYING TO DENY GAY PEOPLE FROM LIVING THEIR LIVES WITH THE ONES THEY LOVE.
YOU MINDLESS HYPOCRITE JUST SAID..... "I believe in a great many things, including treating others who believe differently than I do with the kindness and dignity they deserve."
LOOK IN THE MIRROR AS YOU ELECT PEOPLE WHO KEEP IT LEGAL TO KILL VIABLE SPECIAL NEEDS BABIES! You care nothing for anyone but your own sick convienences in life. Spew your lies to some idiot who knows nothing of what you support.
FOR THE MILLIONTH TIME NO ONE IS TRYING TO DENY GAY PEOPLE FROM LIVING THEIR LIVES WITH THE ONES THEY LOVE.
YOU MINDLESS HYPOCRITE JUST SAID..... "I believe in a great many things, including treating others who believe differently than I do with the kindness and dignity they deserve."
LOOK IN THE MIRROR AS YOU ELECT PEOPLE WHO KEEP IT LEGAL TO KILL VIABLE SPECIAL NEEDS BABIES! You care nothing for anyone but your own sick convienences in life. Spew your lies to some idiot who knows nothing of what you support.
YOU TOTAL FOOL....IGNORE!
You make an exceptionally poor role model for Christianity. You are mentally unbalanced and seething with spite and rage.
👉LOOK IN THE MIRROR AS YOU ELECT PEOPLE WHO KEEP IT LEGAL TO KILL VIABLE SPECIAL NEEDS BABIES! You care nothing for anyone but your own sick convienences in life. Spew your lies to some idiot who knows nothing of what you support.
YOU TOTAL FOOL....IGNORE!
You make an exceptionally poor role model for Christianity. You are mentally unbalanced and seething with spite and rage......👈
My reply .....,
Bold print only makes you look more unbalanced in mind if that's even possible ?
You stated last week that god in the bible only sanctioned abortion because the unborn babies were " evil " proving as I keep telling you that you totally approve of unrestricted abortion if god is doing it ; you then pathetically back -tracked and wailed " you're taking the bible out of context " to which I reasonably asked " what is the right context for god commanding and sanctioning abortion "
The resulting silence has been deafening and as usual you resort to your childish ....IGNORE
You make an exceptionally poor role model for Christianity . You are mentally unbalanced and seething with spite and rage
Spew your lies to some idiot who knows nothing of what you support.
You quite obviously know nothing of what I support if you think I agree with aborting viable special needs babies. I've made it no secret that I have my own baby girl that has special needs, I've also made it no secret that while I would never get an abortion, nor do I ever think that should be the first option, it is ultimately the woman's right to decide and the law. Making abortion illegal would open the doors to back ally abortions and women doing desperate, foolish things to try to self-abort. I've also made it clear to you that there is no way to know 100% that a baby is born viable. That you absolutely refuse to acknowledge that doesn't make me a liar, it just makes you foolish.
You care nothing for anyone but your own sick convienences in life.
Oh please. The moment any option comes up that might in the slightest way affect your way of life and what you like to do- but helps others- you go insane at the thought and start spewing your hateful rhetoric. You only see your way, there is no gray area for you, even if someone partially agrees but adds an addendum it gets at you and you go on your tirade which usually consists of "hypocrite, abortion loving, un-American, idiot, liar, mindless" and finally.... when you just can't face the opposition you fall back on character attacks, false information and all caps, then do your favorite.. "IGNORE".
I admire your passion for many things, I do. But it's very quickly overshadowed by your hypocrisy when you go around spreading false information and flat out lies. You aren't the victim you want to be, sometimes you're just a snowflake.
I DID NOT SAY YOU AGREE WITH KILLING SPECIAL NEEDS BABIES!
I SAID YOU SUPPORT THEIR RIGHT TO DO IT! THAT MEANS YOU MIGHT AS WELL BE DISMEMBERING THOSE VIABLE SPECIAL NEEDS BABIES YOURSELF!
WHAT DREAM WORLD OF DENIAL DO YOU LIVE IN?
YOU ARE A MINDLESS INHUMAN FOOL WHO SAYS, I WOULD NOT AGREE WITH KILLING MY NEIGHBOR, BUT I'M OK WITH YOUR RIGHT TO DO SO AS LONG AS CORRUPT POLITICIANS KEEP IT LEGAL.
DO ANY OF YOU HYPOCRITICAL INHUMAN LIBERALS LOOK IN THE MIRROR WHILE YOU CONSTANTLY SPEAK OUT AGAINST CONSERVATIVE LAWS YOU DON'T AGREE WITH?
FUNNY HOW YOU PHONEY HYPOCRITES SAY NOTHING WHILE POLITICIANS KEEP LAWS THAT MAKE IT LEGAL TO KILL VIABLE BABIES.
PRIORITIES?
HOW DO YOU EVEN DARE TO SPEW THE SICK DENIALS OF ACCOUNTABILITY FOR ALL THOSE VIABLE BABIES BEING KILLED. YOU AND YOUR ILK SAY NOTHING WHILE THEY ARE KILLED FOR MERELY BENG DIFFERENT.
I HAVE MORE RESPECT FOR THE IDIOTS WHO ADMIT SUPPORTING THE KILLING OF VIABLE BABIES, THEN THE PHONEY HYPOCRITES WHO TRY TO DENY IT WHILE SUPPORTING IT.
When your special needs child gets old enough to understand what abortion does, I want you to explain why you support the right of others to kill babies like her, for merely being different and special.
You can tell her how they might not have been 100% sure their babies were viable when killing them. Tell her how you support women playing God and killing their babies no matter if the baby is viable or not. See how your daughter feels about that.
You stated last week that god in the bible only sanctioned abortion because the unborn babies were " evil " proving as I keep telling you that you totally approve of unrestricted abortion if god is doing it ; you then pathetically back -tracked and wailed " you're taking the bible out of context " to which I reasonably asked " what is the right context for god commanding and sanctioning abortion "
The resulting silence has been deafening and as usual you resort to your childish ....IGNORE
You make an exceptionally poor role model for Christianity . You are mentally unbalanced and seething with spite and rage
You really need to calm down your " condition " seems to be getting worse as in your lunacy ; I wonder every time you hear a Cuckoo clock do you take it personally ?
You stated last week that god in the bible only sanctioned abortion because the unborn babies were " evil " proving as I keep telling you that you totally approve of unrestricted abortion if god is doing it ; you then pathetically back -tracked and wailed " you're taking the bible out of context " to which I reasonably asked " what is the right context for god commanding and sanctioning abortion "
The resulting silence has been deafening and as usual you resort to your childish ....IGNORE
You make an exceptionally poor role model for Christianity . You are mentally unbalanced and seething with spite and rage
You support killing unborn babies FOR ANY REASON, and here you are trying to judge God for having killed off evil tribes including the babies that would have continued the barbarism for generation after generation?
Now lets get this straight so even a mindless Liberal can grasp it's meaning. You support killing any innocent unborn baby for merely being vunerable, with no voice to speak out on their own behalf.
Then you spend weeks ranting about how God wiped out evil tribes including their babies for the purpose of saving future generations from their barbarism.
Wait a minute, let me make it even more clear so the bigotted hypocrites can even understand.
You support killing any babies for convienence for the next million years, while God supported killing entire villages to prevent future bloodshed to innocent generations of people.
I forget, what is the definition of a fool hypocrite? Oh, that's right, a picture of you and pro choice Liberals.
ROFLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL, you just can't make this stuff up.
Ok, back to the ignoring of a complete hypocritical anti Christian bigot. Has your wife ever turned you in for your bigoted verbal abuse?
Never killed a baby in my life unlike your god 😫😫😫
You stated last week that god in the bible only sanctioned abortion because the unborn babies were " evil " proving as I keep telling you that you totally approve of unrestricted abortion if god is doing it ; you then pathetically back -tracked and wailed " you're taking the bible out of context " to which I reasonably asked " what is the right context for god commanding and sanctioning abortion "
The resulting silence has been deafening and as usual you resort to your childish ....IGNORE
You make an exceptionally poor role model for Christianity . You are mentally unbalanced and seething with spite and rage
You are a fool. You think christianity is a disco club or boys scouts or google services where rules can be changed to suit members because such groups are made to serve human purposes or desires?
Christianity is what God/Christ desires period.
God hates gay period.
It is He who voluntarily brought his son, with conditions ,as rules.
No human being went to drag jesus from heaven down to earth to do our bidding like a slave or some newly invented technological tool to make life easier.
He came to rescue us and we take orders from him, not he taking orders from us or taking orders from ourselves such as disgusting things like crooked minded beings; gays.
It is not by force to follow christ.
There are spiritual rules not meant for the comfort of the human flesh.
Holding those rules together as it was initially dictated by God not man keeps the association valid and original.
God is not forcing gays into church.
If you want to be gay, be gay.
You can have your own religious books self made that favours your foolishness so you can wed yourselves in whatever god's name you want. It can be pseudo christianity we don't we don't care.
Just do not contaminate the sacred laws of God we believe in to get us where we want for selfish stupid fleshy lust which is an outright abomination in the sight of who we follow and so must it be in our sight too if we know what we want and we will strictly obey all conditions necessary to help us achieve it.
If you want to change church rules, they are given by jesus, it is he we follow, you should take jesus to court not his pastors who are just servants and also followers making sure the master's rules are maintained and not disobeyed so we do not miss what he has for us.
Pastors cannot change laws.
This is not government responsible for happiness of it's citizens.
There are rules to becoming a christian and it is a choice. You can sit in the church disobeying the rules in secret but you can bring it before the church in openesss and demand endorsement.
The day it is endorsed, the definition of the association has been defiled and seizes to be that old association anymore. It is loses it's originality and validity and we will not risk our salvation for the stupid desires of some stupid perverts who do not understand what the association is about and who regulates, not for some idiots who do not fear God or have respect for...making blasphemious requests worthy of lightening striked down at the utterance of the first word.
Take Jesus to court, He is alive...he existed, died but can't locate his body because ressurected....Find him.
Back in extremist old testament days how dare you come out to the temple as a proud unrepentant gay....you will die within a matter of seconds not up to even 2minutes....Citing Islamic states
christians today are very moderate but won't be too stupid lenient to lose our course.
You are just some witch claiming to be christian but don't remember the last time you sat in a Godly church and actually paid attention to your pastor.. .
You cannot serve two masters.........
God is not that desperate, he will leave you with the gays to burn in hell ... Eternally Amen
Excessive freedom makes people stupid. Spare the rod and spoil the child.
God created lucifer not a satan his enemy.
Lucifer had so much freedom that he planned, organised and proceeded with a coup detat against God with God's full knowledge of it from the start. You know God better now with this as in his level of tolerance.
Many leaders will get such people arrested with the slightest hint. But God gave them chance to the best of last chances when they managed to enter his throne room.
Satan is still free, even not as lucifer the purposed God's creation. When God gives you purpose, he still gives freedom and right to go against the purpose.
Just like adam and eve.
Talking about adam and eve brings us directly to the gay topic.
God took adam's rib and created Eve as his companion. That from the basics is a law of heterosexuality only. With adam's rib he didn't create steve. That would have been a law of homosexuality. But no it does not exist. He didn't create homosexuality.
He creates humans who are to follow the example he set from day one like you train your dog how and where to shit like on a paper and even when you are not around the dog will do as you instructed, it can even train it's puppies to do same and a dog will hardly deviate and unless something goes wrong with it's mind and that is synonymous with gay behaviour; mental disoder..
A girl had a snake who stopped eating for two weeks and she took the snake to a psychologist and it was found out that the snake had developed an alterior motive(shift from normal thinking, mental disorder), that is; fasting to swallow the girl.
You see it's her snake but the moment it changed it's mandated and expected behaviour;law , she was like "that isn't my snake i know anymore". Had the snake been in a cage(strict law) it wouldn't have entertained such stupid impossible plans.(strangers of a certain law can be easily spotted, but if a citizen then he is a deviant or mentally deranged)
That is what gay is to God.
He doesn't know them anymore. By becoming gay, they have changed their nationality. They have changed the rationality of their nationality, as humans; children of God. God didn't create that.
Creating something includes the physical and non physical principles for the creator to maintain of ownership of that entity.
The moment you become gay, do plastic surgery, etc.... you have gone against the fundamental principles that defines you as human. You are now on your own. You are an alien to God. He can't recognise you as he describes you in his memory books. Somehow you seized to exist and you are lost to him.. since you went against the principles(the boundries of God's country but you are free to travel). You are not even in his list of animals created because he doesn't remember any animal he created like that.
Satan is principleless because he created nothing, and he can accept anything as an offer. And since you have been denounced by God's care and Satan is powerful than you in that state, he will accept you as a gift; slavery. Entertain himself and when he gets bored with you he trashes you into the coffin and the everlasting home, return of favour, hell....forever and ever.
Amen, well spoken I agree on pretty much everything you have said ( I do have reserves about plastic surgery though, sometimes it is necessary, but I see what you meant) God bless you
Oh Jeffers , I spit my coffee out laughing at this insanity in print ,
YOU SAID ......😂😂😂
A girl had a snake who stopped eating for two weeks and she took the snake to a psychologist and it was found out that the snake had developed an alterior motive(shift from normal thinking, mental disorder), that is; fasting to swallow the girl.
You see it's her snake but the moment it changed it's mandated and expected behaviour;law , she was like "that isn't my snake i know anymore". Had the snake been in a cage(strict law) it wouldn't have entertained such stupid impossible plans.(strangers of a certain law can be easily spotted, but if a citizen then he is a deviant or mentally deranged)
MY REPLY ....so a snake psychologist 😂😂 asked the snake to lie on the couch and tell talk about his ..... early snake 🐍 life and using ( possibly ) Freudian psychoanalysis discerned that said reptile 🐍 had an ...... ulterior motive 😂😂😂😂😂😳 as in the snake 🐍 had murder in its reptilian heart as it planned to eat the girl 💃🐍....... the girl 💃then disowned the reptile 👉 🐍 and that is what gay is to god 👌😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂��😂
@FromWithin, "You are yet one more Homosexual person on this site that is an anti Christian bigot. I have found that the great majority of vocal anti Christian bigots on these debate sites are Gay, because their insecurity hates if anyone else's faith teaches Homosexuality to be a sin.
GET OVER IT! Why care what other's believe if you are secure with who you are?
We all know how the Left constantly judges Christians. We are secure with our faith, and have no need to pass laws forcing every state to sanction it."
Everything you just said is an inversion of the truth (with the possible exception that Homosexual may in fact proportionally more angry with Religious Fundamentalists such as yourself because they have very high grievances due to your beliefs and how you act on them which they are rightly outraged by). Aside from that small concession, everything else you stated was analogous to claiming Night is Day, Black is White, Up is Down. (Doublethink much??)
Your slogan/Signature should state:
"war is peace, freedom is slavery, ignorance is strength" -1984, Orwell
I will only debate a fool for so long, and then it is a pure waste of time.
Your judgmental insult towards me, by calling me a fundamentalist Christian is typical of bigotted judgmental fools.
Newsflash, fundamentals are a good thing until the bigotted Left started makng it an insult against someone who actually believes the word of God. HOW DARE THEY BELIEVE THE FUNDAMENTALS OF THEIR FAITH!
You mindless judgmental fool!
Christians such as myself have nothing against Gays. We have everything against activist Gays trying to transform our faith to fit their unnatural lifestyles.
You are too much an idiot to get it. You keep spewing lies and deception!
@FromWithin, "Newsflash, fundamentals are a good thing until the bigotted Left started makng it an insult against someone who actually believes the word of God. HOW DARE THEY BELIEVE THE FUNDAMENTALS OF THEIR FAITH!"
I agree with you on the point that being a Religious Fundamentalist is in fact the more honest/sincere religious position to take as compared to "Religious Moderates" because if you believe the Bible is the Word of God, then who would people be to pick and choose what is true or how to "interpret" a given passage (thus superseding the authority of God). So, I will concede that point to you. I am glad we have found at least some common ground.
Good, if you concede that you just judged and insulted me for being a fundamentalist Christian, I will wait for your apology and your word to stop doing it in the future.
I will also wait for you to stop lying about how Christians judge Gay people for their sin. It is not judging people when we speak of sins spoken of from the Bible.
Homosexuality is a sin just as adultery, stealing, divorce, etc. etc. etc. We speak to all these sins but are not judging the individual to Hell.
Christians will always speak about what our faith teaches, but we do not judge a person to Hell for any particular sin. God will judge us in the end and it is not our place to do it.
Yes, I know there are some Christians who do judge others by name for some particular sin. That is also a sin to judge others.
Don't try to paint fundamental Christians as doing this.
@FromWithin, "Good, if you concede that you just judged and insulted me for being a fundamentalist Christian, I will wait for your apology and your word to stop doing it in the future."
I concede that being a Fundamentalist Christian is a more honest position to take then "Moderate Christianity" because your worldview is more internally consistent than that of a moderate who are, as I stated previously, superseding the authority of the God of the Bible by "cherry-picking" what they do and do not take to be "God's Word". I think that is a dishonest position because how would a highly fallible mortal be in a better position to judge God's word then God? So for this much, I think we have agreement on (you can correct me if I'm wrong).
Now, where we sharply diverge is that I am claiming that the internal worldview provided by the Bible is inconsistent with the publicly verifiable evidence of the Physical World (for which we have been able to probe so far) as well as where it does not directly contradict things we know to be true about the world, it is making extraordinary claims about history, the divine origin of certain people, people having magic powers, other types of magic/supernatural phenomena that would require an extraordinary amount of evidence to support the plausibility of such phenomena/events (and there isn't any serious evidence outside of the Bible).
This dichotomy inevitably causes many areas in which these two ways of viewing the world are going to "butt heads" on very important matters. I understand where your views are coming from and appreciate that there is some consistency there, however I think many positions you hold are demonstrably false (and importantly, this inevitably crosses over into the political domain on matters of education, social issues, political formation, ect.). What are your views concerning education in public schools and children generally? How old do you believe the Earth is roughly? Do you believe in the story of Adam and Eve as the explanation for our existence? What do you make of the immoral actions/stories in the Bible (if you believe there are any)? Do you believe in the account of Noah and the Ark?
You attack my positions on abortion, Homosexuaity, etc. by talking about Adam and Eve which I have never even mentioned.
Do you know why you do this? Becuase you know I am right about the positions I take on these issues so you change the subject.
Wen you actually want to debate the issues to what I am speaking to, and admit that Homosexuaity goes against biological science (spare us all the lies of Gay animals), and that killing even viable unborn babies for any reason shows how inhuman the world will become without God, we will continue. Until then... ignore.
I think Mint is full of demons due to her friendship with witches.....something very twisted going on with her, I avoid reading her stuff.....it comes across like somebody dragging their fingernails across a chalk board.
was I talking to you? It doesn't matter, you like reading my stuff more than I like yours, so you can read and respond and I will tell you that sinners do not deserve to live outside of you know where and you know what is there.
Hi. When I am talking to you, you might think about how your sins separate you from God and how you need to be saved from Hell. I wasn't talking to you, so don't think about where you are going for eternity.
Hi. When I am talking to you, you might think about how your sins separate you from God
I'm pretty sure that God regards being a rude condescending tyrant as a sin, so you might want to double check with him first about what he thinks before attempting to speak for him. Cheers.
Being an atheist absolutely does not "automatically make you intelligent". Religion is an illness of the mind which attacks an individual's ability to understand reason, but it is not contracted exclusively by stupid people. The most common denominator is youth. Children have less developed mental functions and hence it is much easier to brainwash them and/or confuse them between fantasy and reality. But religion is different to many other childish things in that it is significantly more difficult to simply grow out of. Perhaps because the level of commitment the brain has to make is more significant, or perhaps because the beliefs are reinforced through peers.
I was not talking to you, still not talking to you...........................I see I posted something very stupid earlier, but was unable to edit it as it has been voted on....I sure wouldn't want credit for saying something as stupid as what I accidentally posted
I have to admit, it's hard to not feel superior to someone who believes that an invisible giant in the sky is watching over them. A giant so powerful that it created the universe, yet it cares about our sex lives. An all powerful, all knowing God who can't manage money very well and needs donations.
ROFLOL, the most insecure bigots on this site, such as yourself, actually believes that there was a huge sky daddy explosion in the sky creating a big bang from NOTHING, that somehow magically started the first living cell, even though no one knows how, and that the likes of such a person is going to preach to others on their beliefs?
ROFLOL, what insecure fools you are! Newsflash, NO ONE HAS ALL THE ANSWERS AND FOR INSECURE FOOLS LIKE YOU TO JUDGE AND PREACH AGAINST CHRISTIANS, MAKES YOU A COMPLETE IDIOT!
@FromWithin, "...actually believes that there was a huge sky daddy explosion in the sky creating a big bang from NOTHING, that somehow magically started the first living cell, even though no one knows how..."
Well, that is not quite the vision that modern science suggests.... LMAO
Neither being an atheist nor being religious makes you smarter. What makes you smarter is having good reasons for why you are either one. Those of us who challenge religion simply don't think the "do this because you were told so and if not oh you'll be sorry" is a good reason for being either one.
It takes just as much thought and effort to dismiss something on hearing as it does to accept something on hearing.
None.
Are there clever and crafty atheists? Sure, but they are wicked, so who cares? They claim to have no gods, but they are obviously pagans. They clearly have their gods, they are just in denial of them. Besides the obvious pagans like the ones who worship culture and other transient vanities, there are the satanists who take themselves as being gods.
Atheism is a position that stems from ignorance, petulance, and maybe peer pressure? Not any great insight.
The idea that atheism is a scientific position is a lie perpetuated by atheists.
There are MANY in religions FAR more intelligent than myself. As Atrag says, believing or NOT believing is not a measure of intelligence. Believing is a choice, not believing is a choice. I think those who believe in "facts" that are as "provable" as possible, rather than believing in mythology that has few, if any, facts to back it up, show a level of intelligence above believers in fairy tales and myths.
If I see ANY "facts" reasonably provable to support a religion, other than words written by "believers in myths", I will gladly become a believer in that religion.
Intelligence is a relative thing. I think I am "relatively dumb" compared to many in this present world or earlier. That would not improve if I followed a mythical religion. It does not improve by being an atheist. I simply can't believe things that are said that I MUST believe ... 'cause HE said I must!
If "HE" shows up and gives me the order, I'll become "intelligent".
Becoming an atheist is nothing but putting up a mental block wall in your mind, and telling yourself that God cannot see you there. Half of your brain shuts down, the wall forbids you from using your brain beyond it's boundary.
Becoming an atheist is nothing but putting up a mental block wall in your mind
A wall blocking an invisible sky fairy which you invented and have no empirical support for is a good wall. I just hope it's sturdy so you don't break it down and kill everyone who doesn't believe you, as you guys are frequently prone to doing.
I was not talking to you. If I was talking to you, I would have made it clear that I was talking to you by saying "Hey, you...or hey you atheist fool" or something like that.
Don't read this, Dermot, it's not for you, it's for others....you insist on proving that you have the right to live outside of Hell, so prove it. This response is for anybody who might think they could possibly be wrong about their belief in atheism. You think you are better, smarter, and stronger than God and that makes you a fool.....so there is no point in trying to get you to see the light.
You want to see God like a criminal wants to see a police officer. It is not God who is hiding, it is you....you can know God is there but you want to deny Him because you don't want Him telling you what to do or not to do.....you make that wall harder and harder like your own steel coffin, want your mental block wall and you won't let it down, atheism is a choice and in it you make a fool of yourself. You scoff at God because you walk according to your lusts and your deeds are evil and you know it. You prefer darkness over light, you won't let that wall down......you are too chicken for that, too proud......and you hate me for telling you the truth so I try to avoid reading you. Really this reply is for others who may be open to the truth, I know you have hardened that mental block wall like your own steel coffin.
The wall is crumbling down, you can't keep it up....you will see God one day as your Judge if not as your Savior, you will know He is Jesus Christ and you won't like it when you see Him.......if you will not repent of your sin, believe on Him, and receive Him as your Savior to be saved from Hell.
Go on with your mental block....all you get with it is death, smarty pants.
I know you hate me for telling you the truth and it was probably better for me to have avoided reading your stuff like I usually do....
I'm actually waiting for you to tell even one truth some day as your arguments from assertion are bordering on the desperate lately ; incidentally I've never hated another person in my life I leave that to you and fellow followers of the word of Jesus on C D who have more than enough hate to go around
I think I said I would not read your response....just the unusual time when i read one of your posts and answered it logically and precisely.
You won't let that mental block wall down, you don't want to know that God is there any more than a criminal wants to know a cop is there. You don't want God telling you what is right or wrong for you to do, you want Him to leave you alone so you are dying alone.
I remember pretty clearly how I was afraid you actually had a heart attack and died and ended up in Hell after when you first started coming here and I told you the gospel; how you can be saved from Hell. You got so mad I could feel your blood boiling before you left in anger and were gone for a couple months. I'm glad to see that you are not burning in Hell, but I have no pleasure in reading your spiteful responses.
I'm actually waiting for you to tell even one truth some day as your arguments from assertion are bordering on the desperate lately ; incidentally I've never hated another person in my life I leave that to you and fellow followers of the word of Jesus on C D who have more than enough hate to go around
Ninety percent of the time you address or speak of me, it is hateful. That's why I usually don't read it. You are being hateful here, I did not rant, I offered reason for you to reconsider your refusal to believe on Jesus Christ and receive Him by faith as your Savior to be saved from Hell. That is what I want for you, to be saved from Hell and you hate me for telling you that as a sinner you deserve to die and fry like an eternal sausage there. You have wished many times that I burn in Hell forever, I never have wanted such fate for you...I know where you are going, i know how you can be saved, I know how you can be sure your sins are forgiven and you are going to heaven and you have repeatedly made it clear that you don't care so because you are so spiteful I am trying to put a lot of distance between us.
I'm actually waiting for you to tell even one truth some day as your arguments from assertion are bordering on the desperate lately ; incidentally I've never hated another person in my life I leave that to you and fellow followers of the word of Jesus on C D who have more than enough hate to go around
It was not difficult for me to find God is there.....after I was willing to admit that I deserve to die and burn in Hell for my sins. You are too proud to admit that you deserve to die and burn in Hell forever for your sins, so you won't let that wall down. One day it will fall and you will see Jesus Christ, He is God but you won't believe it (will you?) and you won't believe Hell is forever even if you are frying like an eternal sausage there...will you?
No. In my view, there are about three main divides between people that I will illustrate now in terms of a metaphor:
(1) People who do not know/are unaware that there is giant puzzle board left for us to be figured out (concerning the Universe)
(2) People who do understand that there is a giant puzzle board there to figure out
(3) People who understand that there is a puzzle to be solved, however instead of working on the seemingly endless massive real puzzle board, have developed and solved their own trivial 10 piece miniature puzzle board and insist that its solved
Now, what I am driving at with the Puzzle Board metaphor is that there are innumerous questions about the Universe that require explanation (some being very fundamental such as, What are we? How are we alive? Why do think naturally fall down and not up (on Earth)?ect. ect.). Furthermore, questions that need to be addressed not just about the Universe in the traditional scientific sense (e.i. through Physics, Biology, ect.) but also questions of human history, how it is best to form a human society in order for people to flourish to the best of their ability, Philosophical questions, ect. Now, the way that this ties in with Religion and Atheism is in a few ways. First, many people (I used to be one of them when I was a teenager) go about their lives not understanding that there are deep, fundamental, questions that require explanation (e.i. they basically do not understand what Science and many other academic disciplines are about, what they have been working on, and answers they have found so far). Now, many now athiests/agnostics, such as myself, became athiests/agnostics, once they were in some way exposed to this Big Puzzleboard and learned about the general history of it, why and who has been working on it, ect. and are thus exposed to Science, critical thinking, ect. Other athiests may have always been raised with an awareness of Science, ect. and are thus "on board" with the Big Puzzle Board. Yet others may have once thought they had answers in terms of their trivial, miniature puzzle board and were in some way exposed to the real one. Now, if a person is not aware of the "Big Puzzle Board" and in no way is attempting to understand where we are at this point (what pieces of the puzzle have been filled in and what is left to fill in) on the project or attempt to work on it themselves in some fashion in hopes of contributing some piece to the puzzle (however small or large or even if they fail), then there is no possible way they could be considered "intelligent". Rather, they would be considered wholly ignorant, oblivious, intellectually lazy, ect. As you may have guessed, Fundamentalist religious belief is analogous to (3), people who believe they have their pathetic, miniature, 10 piece puzzle board filled in and that is that. Now, it is possible that such a person could ALSO work on the real puzzle board and attempt to come up with some kind of ridiculous rationalization of how that fits their tiny puzzle, but it is giving them a serious handicap and distorted view of reality. Now, as for "moderate" religious people of various strands, the can fall into categories (1) or (2) and therefore there is a very large distribution of intelligence within this grouping. There is still an issue however with them attempting to water down the tiny puzzle and say that this enormous real puzzle somehow all fits inside of the framework of the tiny one. So, in short, if a person is in category (1) they are not intelligent because they are completely clueless, if they are in category (2) they are POTENTIALLY intelligent (depending on their knowledge of the Puzzle and how good they are at contributing further to it), category (3) are even worse then clueless. Both "moderately" religious and non-religious people are included in category (2) so you would expect the same sort of Bell Curve distribution of intelligence inside of that framework as if you took the population as a whole (although if you are in category (2) almost definitely more intelligent than people in categories (1) and (3)).
If you don't know wtf I'm talking about, you are in either category (1) or (3).
No it doesn't , but if becoming a Christian makes one automatically stupid your post would seem to suggest an answer in the affirmative.
It's quiet funny that you keep insisting at least once weekly people say they are atheist so as to appear to others as intelligent people ; so you admit to say one is a Christian means people judge you as stupid
What belief are atheists trying to support with science ?
Why would they suspect science was a hoax ?
Why do you say science is a hoax as in the theory of evolution?
Bet as usual you cannot answer so you can flee as usual
Actually when you have an " intelligent argument " why not post it up on my latest which asks believer the very questions you accuse us of avoiding ; you won't do that though will you as you prefer to resort to cowardly attacks that are meaningless .
There is no " Atheism dictionary " and to accuse Atheists of bigotry is a laugh considering your whole post is a hate filled tirade against atheists
Stop twisting points and using science in general to represent research/theory.
Or with a mixture of pleasure and anger i will ban you; solution.
A research must be proven before accepted as science, which darwinism still fails to but with thousands of believers of Atheism in the community, it has been forced into the system though better scruitinity proves it doesn't qualify to be science.
And by this an atheist will predictably call anyone opposing specifically the scam, fraud pseudo-science as an all round science hater as a usual strategy for preserving his faith and will therefore proceed to say he is intelligent than the opposer without even looking as the counter argument being presented; bigotry is very smbolic of the pseudo intelligence of all atheists who believers in darwinism(there are atheists who debunk darwinism).
Indeed people who deny science must be illiterates but here is the case where what is being called science is not science in the first place, it does not qualify to be science but contradicts a lot of actual scientific principles. It is a myth hyped by the atheist religion which unfortunately have themselves in high authority positions in the scientific community and promoting the myth in schools and now these young darwinians appeal to these authorities without understanding what the myth actually is saying and how it totally contradicts science and rather makes them haters of scientific logic.
You say .....Stop using science to represent research /theory 😂😂 Ok , what will we use instead ..... religion ?
Of course you can ban me it's your only option as that what cowards do , also you're to cowardly to make your case on my debate and I won't ban you .... but hey I'm an atheist
Atheism has nothing to do with Evolution ; also Evolution is accepted as FACT by most rational humans a class I'm afraid you're not a part off .
Yes , you stated you have a " counter argument " to Evolution but as yet the science world has not recognised that Jeffrey has destroyed the argument for Evolution whys that do you think ?
So Evolution is "pusedoscience " but the alternative theories are " real science " but you cannot post them up .....Ooooookkkk👌
Your argument from assertion is ridiculous and as usual you do not have even one accepted "theory " to back your primative superstitious claims up do you ?
"Intellect" to an Atheist is the equivalent of finding spiritual enlightenment. They don't "not believe" in a higher power, they're just because they're in denial about not mainstream religious nuts, they're a more accepted form of one.
You will notice how most Atheists blindly go along with political correctness whereby unnatural sexual orientations are sanctioned as normal even though it flies in the face of scientific biology.
When it comes to political correct issues, these same so called "intelligent" people, who supposedly possess the art of critical thinking, become PC morons.
An intelligent person does not blindly follow the crowd to be liked and accepted by society. No, he possesses the character and integrity to stand by his convictions no matter that political correct peer groups will judge him.
How can they be unnatural if nature produces them?
Sad thing illiterates can assume atheists and automatically expect their monoric talks accepted as intelligent .
Compatibility a major principle of nature.
Nature says compatible is when north and south come together simple as; opposites attract.
Uneducated animals in the jungle prove to be more literate than some homo-sapiens when these animals fight bloody combats just to win the opposite sex.
When you put a battery in torch light, yes it will light(sensible), that is the product; Light.
You will call someone insane when he shapes stones and put it in a torchlight expecting it to light(sensibility but not possible here) instead of a catapult for attacks.
Yes nature makes male and female.
Yes a factory produces torchlight and battery.
Use the dick on the vagina.
Put the battery in the torch.
Don't use the dick on another dick holder, he has no design for that purpose, thay makes the female unique
Don't put a torch in a torch but rather a battery, that makes the battery unique....
there will be no light....no sense...senseless...insanity...needs to be fixed...but there are illiterates graduates backing it....benefit of the doubt they are supposed to be intelligent as graduates.....analysing deeply they aren't....mockery, mediocre, blasphemy to what intelligence really means.
Using the excretory organ as a sexual organ won't evolve it into a sexual organ in forever except in your loco imaginations.
Can't you see how the vagina is designed? Externals and internals are just right for the dick and nothing else.
The anus breaks after prolong misuse(indeed) and these guys have to result to using diapers at adult ages. Such disgust....tolerating falling faeces of adults at school, work, parties, restaurants, train, barbering shop, stadium, Military Parade etc.....talkless of the STD's .....
Wow ! Jeffers you need to calm down I get the impression you're not happy 🤔😢 you say .......
I will just kill you... and burn all your gays along.
Natures law breakers, pollution to the environment..........
I know oneday i will kill thousand gays at once in just 12minutes(at longest).......
You sound like a Muslim suicide bomber ; the majority of you Christians here on C D are incredibly hateful and intolerant , whys that ?
Jesus did say " your love for one another shall prove to the world you are my disciples " of course you as usual totally disagree with Jesus , whys that ?
27 “But to you who are listening I say: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, 28 bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you.
1 Corinthians 6:2 Or do you not know that the saints will judge the world? And if the world is to be judged by you, are you incompetent to try trivial cases?
No, i am very competent.
Stop using bible verses you don't believe. It's pure mockery. thid conversation is over.
@FromWithin, "You will notice how most Atheists blindly go along with political correctness whereby unnatural sexual orientations are sanctioned as normal even though it flies in the face of scientific biology."
Can you please get off the Sexual Orientation/Gender and Abortion arguments for every single comment and formulate opinions on separate issues that you are willing to discuss?
Also, there is nothing about being an atheist that therefore makes you "pro-choice" or supportive of sexual orientations/genders that differ from the traditional view, or "PC" or (insert any other topic aside from the existence of god(s)). You could be an atheist and believe in ghosts, mental telepathy, psychics, an afterlife, an immaterial "soul", Flat-Earth, ect. ect. People are complex, you can't simply pigeon hole them. Atheists are an extremely diverse group of people
God gives people the wisdom to see the obvious humanity when it comes to obvious right and wrong.
Atheists do not possess God's wisdom and humanity, and is why the VAST MAJORITY are pro choice.
I guarantee you the vast majority of Atheists are fine with Gay marriage.
Live in your dream world whereby mankind have a moral foundation to live by.
Their moral values change with the times as we are witnessing with no restriction abortions, Gay marriage, Transgender fixations of forcing every public schools to allow so called transgender boys in our daughter's bathrooms.
Stop playing the fool and acting like this stuff is not happening, while Atheists say nothing against it.
And in ancient times, sailing the season of the flat earth under the blessing of Saints made you more intelligent. Atheism is a long term fad, just as religion has been before.
@jeffreyone - You have it backwards, becoming an atheist doesn't make one more intelligent, it's being more intelligent in the first place that tends to make one question the mythology we've been spoon fed from infancy and eventually causes us to reject religion and often brings us around to the freedom of atheism.
You are the guy who saw a ghost and is still atheist.
You had self evidence instead of a mythical story and you rely on the words of ignorant ones of your personal experience to reach a conclusion; atheism, while you are still having strong mental battle with the reality you encountered.
You are hurting yourself not those ignorant(free mind) atheists you rely on or theists you argue. You think believing makes you stupid. Who dictates that rule of stupidity? Ignorant people who have no clue of your experience? Ignorance overrides truth?
Your current position alone after your experience makes you stupid if you don't know.
Inconsistency of your mind state, you need rehab .
From your argument you are trying to tell me believers aren't intelligent right? No matter the depth of their knowledge and exposure to intelligence when nothing limits them from acquiring more which they do equally as anyone else in their various fields of intellectual expertise. And who dictates that rule again?
Becoming stupid automatically makes you an atheist.
Interesting but I don't agree that it's about being more intelligent that makes one question .
There's some incredibly ignorant and unintelligent atheists as well as believers and the reasons for becoming atheist are varied ; in my case it was through exposure to philosophy and speaking with others who's arguments I found challenging to my Christian beliefs at the time and the arguments I had to address to myself with honesty .I was also told the bible was the word of god and without flaw , one reading destroyed this contention once and for all and that as they say , was that