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Does entropy prove the validity of a monotheistic religion?

Entropy, the measurement of the "disorder" in a system, is a common scientfic (and well proved) term that is used to prove that only through God is evolution possible. Is entropy really an aspect that proves God, or is there a flaw in entropy that ultimately turns the tables back to atheism and natural evolution. Give me your thoughts!

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Even if evolution was disproven by entropy, it doesn't justify any monotheistic religion. It would only disprove evolution, not prove another claim. Unless their claim is directly connected to entropy.

But entropy and evolution are not in conflict. Entropy doesn't violate any current facts/laws.

So.....

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Even if evolution was disproven by entropy, it doesn't justify any monotheistic religion. It would only disprove evolution, not prove another claim. Unless their claim is directly connected to entropy.

But entropy and evolution are not in conflict. Entropy doesn't violate any current facts/laws.

So.....

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There are several forms of entropy.

"Entropy is a thermodynamic property that can be used to determine the energy not available for work in a thermodynamic process, such as in energy conversion devices, engines, or machines. Such devices can only be driven by convertible energy, and have a theoretical maximum efficiency when converting energy to work. During this work, entropy accumulates in the system, which then dissipates in the form of waste heat."

The definition of entropy that a Christian might use seems something more like "Order in a closed system decreases over time."

As in, as a fish lives, the atoms in it's cells undergo radioactive decay very slowly. The sun is constantly hitting it, the water eroding it's scales, but it fights, it's body fights to replace dead cells and repair genetic damage.

It uses energy to do this. It eats things and it uses oxygen in the water to give itself energy so it's cells can divide and replace dying ones.

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If a Christian is not referring to how life maintains itself, despite entropy, then he or she must mean, how did life first form?

If order is decreasing, if it is HARD to find energy to live, then how do you start life in a closed system or environment?

It is not a closed system.

Earth has the Sun, a massive star that emits energy in all directions. That energy is what plants use during photosynthesis.

I would not be surprised if the first "life" or what I would guess is more of a complex self replicating chemical, would use the water in the ocean and light from the sun as energy to allow itself to live.

The Earth is full of energy. Do you know how much energy a gram of Uranium has?

A FUCKTON.

Or actually, roughly 200 million joules per gram, a few thousand times that produced by burning gas or coal.

Of course, we do not power our bodies with nuclear energy. We burn energy, so it's a bit different, I suppose.

It changes nothing, however. There is still heat within the Earth, there is sunlight and the water and chemicals in the water can be used to provide energy.

A lifeform appearing without a god is possible.

I am an atheist, right? Yet I exist.

That means either I'm right, or some sort of religion is right.

I can't be wrong though, I do exist, so I must have parents, and those parents must have parents.

Evolution is a theory that works, yet it is more difficult to figure out how the first life came to be.

I do not think it is supernatural though.

That would assume that supernatural exists, when the only thing I KNOW is that life exists.

Evidence has power.

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Theists make a fundamental scientific error when arguing through entropy. They forget that the Earth is an open system, not a closed system, and thus the natural disorder does not take place.

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"They forget that the Earth is an open system, not a closed system, "

Yes, that's a common misconception, but an understandable one given that for all practical purposes it is only an open system with respect to radiation, which I'm sure you're well aware.

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