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Does it take more intelligence to make more money or less on average?

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Not necessarily more intelligence.

The character elements required to be wealthier than average include, a willingness to take risks, drive, vision, a strong work-ethic, stamina, a congenital ability to identify a potentially profitable business project, leadership qualities and being able to sense if and when your chosen business has peaked and will soon be on the wane.

It's nigh impossible to make decent money, ( say $10,000 a week, after tax) working for someone else.

It doesn't take a lot of intelligence to figure that out but it does take grit, zeal and initiative to achieve your life's goals.

Alternatively you can become embittered and do nothing other than sit and moan and groan about the unfairness in the world.

IF YOU'VE NO DESIRE TO BE WEALTHY THAT'S FINE, AND GOOD LUCK WITH THAT, BUT DON'T KNOCK THOSE WHO DO.

LIVE AND LET LIVE.

Side: More intelligence
FerretHole(115) Clarified
2 points

Capitalism is not completely un-meritocratic but if it was boiled down to a mere yes or no rather than a nuanced answer I would have to say no, it is not a true meritocracy. The main reason it is not is this; If you do not have equality of opportunity you do not have meritocracy, and in order to have equality of opportunity everyone must be born into equality of outcome in the sense that no one would be born into poverty or disproportionate wealth, and everyone would have the same access to resources in the beginning but gradually have to do more earning as they reach adulthood.

Side: More intelligence
Kilcom(224) Clarified
1 point

Some good points which I'd have difficulty opposing.

I can only offer my own anecdotal experience which is that I was born into desperate poverty along with my 5 siblings in the back streets of post war Belfast.

From an early age I made my own opportunities by selling firewood around the neighborhood for 1 penny a bundle.

I acquired a bow saw and sawed branches off the trees in the Ormeau Park, illegally.

I never had a pair of shoes without holes and regularly went to school with no food in my belly.

The culmination of my career was forming my own concrete and thermal insulation company in which I eventually employed over 120 full time staff members, (at least 3 of whom were murderers, political stuff,) for 26 years

My nett, after tax, profit averaged out at between £10,000 to £ 15,000 per week.

I live by the sea over looking the hills of county Antrim and beyond to the west coast of Scotland.

I have a modest apartment just outside Nice in the south of France where I usually spend 4 to 5 months each year.

I feel I didn't have any equality of opportunity just a burning desire to pick myself out of the gutter by hard work.

Side: More intelligence
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The character elements required to be wealthier than average include, a willingness to take risks

Bullshit. Show me a rich gambler.

Side: Less intelligence
Kilcom(224) Disputed
1 point

As standard you're being willfully provocative by pretending not to recognise the self-evident and indisputable truth in my attestation. .

It's not the gambler who is the shrewd businessman, it's those who create the platform/vehicle for the gambler(s) to deposit their money.

The Casino owners and bookmakers.

Show me a poor bookmaker/bookie.

The name calling graphically illustrates that you don't have a rational argument ''worth a tinker's damn'' to quote Henry Ford, the great industrialist gambler.

Entrepreneurs take calculated chances, whereas gamblers take foolhardy and reckless risks.

You're not comparing like with like here, and you know it.

You're not interested in reasoned debate.

Why don't you just get lost and permit this site develop into a proper debating forum where views can be expressed without being subjected to your usual torrent of obscenities?

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Side: More intelligence
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I think more intelligence will make more money. More intelligence makes you more clear about everything and you will make only good decisions. buy cheap diamond rings It is my opinion only and I think the intelligence is based on the decisions you make.

Side: More intelligence
Kilcom(224) Clarified
1 point

Having an intuitive business acumen invariably leads to a soundly based enterprise.

When I had my business a number of my employees had degrees in civil engineering and were great at what they did.

However, none of these clever people had the full range of attributes it takes to establish a viable business.

What you do is bring together those people whose skills you need, from typing, bookkeeping, marketing/sales driving 32 tonne trucks and so forth and have them all working in unison and harmony towards achieving the highest degree of profitability for the company.

Of course this takes intelligence, but also a hell of a lot more.

One of my concrete plants was suffering a serious loss of diesel fuel.

The highly qualified plant manager suggested to me that I bawl him out in front of the suspected thieves in the hope they would feel sorry for him and stop their skulduggery.

I had to explain that they would find this amusing and probably lead to an increase in their dishonesty.

They were siphoning the fuel from their trucks and selling at half price to the black taxis being run by the local para-militaries.

What would you have done in such a situation?

Side: More intelligence
Dawazilu(121) Clarified
1 point

What would you have done in such a situation?

Threaten to deduct from their pay the same amount of money that they lose for the company every time they sell fuel, and eventually to fire and sue them if it persists. I might also offer to increase their pay if they behave themselves.

Side: More intelligence

It takes a person of extraordinarily low intelligence to reduce the complexities of life down to stacking make-believe digits inside a make-believe bank account. If that is the most important thing to you in life, then chances are very high you're a moron.

Indeed, after having interacted with you on a daily basis for nearly four years or so, I can confirm that you definitely are a moron.

Side: Less intelligence
FerretHole(115) Clarified
1 point

You are right, but you are also thinking in a way that could lead you to make a key mistake. Even if you do not care about the social construct, you still must try to become rich because the fact of the matter is that in our current society that social construct dictates your quality of life and influence over society. If socialists do not pursue wealth we are just letting the capitalists have it all and stay in control as well. It is for those reasons that I plan to become very rich so that I have enough social construct points to make a difference in the world and also to improve my own quality of life drastically. It literally IS stupid to not pursue it, because the only alternative is letting people with more money than you step on you while you bust your ass for crumbs in a society that completely measures your worth based on social construct points.

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Even if you do not care about the social construct, you still must try to become rich because the fact of the matter is that in our current society that social construct dictates your quality of life and influence over society.

That is stupid. If something is a problem for society, the solution is not more of it. That holds true for guns, capitalism, climate denial and anything else you'd care to mention. It works great as a general rule.

If socialists do not pursue wealth we are just letting the capitalists have it all and stay in control as well.

You do not beat the capitalists by becoming a capitalist. That is, again, stupid.

The only way to truly stop capitalism is to find a way to educate ordinary people to the level that they are intelligent enough to understand what is best for them. To the level that they are capable of differentiating between logic and emotion. It feels nice to get a wage packet, but logically you deserve the full amount of profit your work has produced, without 20 people skimming off the top and leaving you with next to nothing.

Side: More intelligence