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Debate Score:192
Arguments:169
Total Votes:207
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Does life begin at birth?

Yes`

Side Score: 75
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No

Side Score: 117
3 points

The answer to the question is yes.

A new organism's life begins at and by conception.

That's a biological fact.

That makes conception (not parturition) the true 'birth' of an organism.

Conception:

Definition: origin, cause

Synonyms: antecedent, birth, conception, egg, embryo, font, fount, fountain, fountainhead, generation, genesis, germ, heart, principle, resource, root, seed, stem, well

Supporting Evidence: Conception is synonymous with Birth (thesaurus.com)
Side: Yes`
Chuz-Life(496) Clarified
4 points

It's also a biological fact that an organism's aging process begins at conception as well. This further supports the fact that Conception is the birth of the organism.

"Aging is a very natural process. It begins at conception and continues throughout the life cycle."

Supporting Evidence: Aging begins at Conception - University of Maine (umaine.edu)
Side: Yes`
wardogninja(1789) Clarified
2 points

Isn't conception before birth though, when the spam first enters the egg to become a zygote?

Side: Yes`
Banana_Slug(845) Disputed
0 points

Same BS over and over again. As I said before, tumor is more alive than fetus...should he have any rights?

You are nt count as a human being until your birth ...which is usually about 9 months from conception.

Evidence and common sense is against you. Fetus cannot live on it's own - a.k.a not alive.

Side: Yes`
Quocalimar(6469) Disputed
4 points

I notice you often try to twist semantics to work to your favor.

If the definition of pro-abortion defines pro-choice people as pro-abortion, why does the definition of birth:The emergence of a baby or other young from the body of its mother; the start of life as a physically separate being. not qualify for it's true meaning?

Side: No
Cuaroc(8825) Disputed
2 points

Conception is also a synonym to egg so should life be changed to start at production of the egg?

Side: No
Chuz-Life(496) Disputed
1 point

If you want to argue for that - go ahead.

It won't change the argument that I have presented even if you do.

Side: Yes`
holomanga(10) Disputed
2 points

Semantics goes beyond the scope of the question. I'm pretty sure that the creator was referring to parturition. This would make your biological fact actually go against this claim.

Side: No
Chuz-Life(496) Disputed
2 points

I'm sorry that you think it's only about semantics.

For me, these words have real meanings and that's the basis for my response.

It was an education for me to find this information and that's why I like to share it with others who may not know or realize that conception is the birth of an organism and how their aging begins at conception too.

Side: Yes`
Buddhist(318) Disputed
2 points

Conception is 9 months prior to birth for a human baby just to let you know. They are entirely different events.

Side: No
Chuz-Life(496) Disputed
1 point

That's right.

They are different events.

Conception is the beginning of it's life, aging, etc. (the birth of the organism) and parturition is nothing more than a delivery from the womb.

Side: Yes`
Sitara(11082) Disputed
1 point

10 months actually. .

Side: Yes`
Cartman(18191) Disputed
2 points

Why doesn't conception appear on the list of synonyms for birth? Maybe it is because they are different.

Supporting Evidence: Birth is not synonomous with conception (thesaurus.com)
Side: No
Chuz-Life(496) Disputed
1 point

Scroll down to the near bottom of the very page you linked to and look under "beginning."

Side: Yes`
Facadeon(510) Clarified
2 points

It was completely dead, timeless and devoid of life, until it exited through the vagina where it instantly gained life and movement.

Side: Yes`
Chuz-Life(496) Clarified
1 point

I loved your use of sarcasm in this! Voted up!

Side: Yes`
Centifolia(1318) Clarified
2 points

You posted on the wrong side dude.

The question is "if life begins at birth" not if it starts at conception

Side: Yes`
Chuz-Life(496) Clarified
1 point

But it's one and the same point in time.

Side: Yes`
Sitara(11082) Disputed
1 point

Agreed, but you posted on the wrong side. .

Side: No
1 point

Of course life begins at birth! Even if you believe in reincarnation, that we are all born equal, and with this begins a new life, even if reincarnation exists, how do you prove it?

Side: Yes`
1 point

Yes of course!! When your mother had you, you were very much a teency weency little living thing swimming and sleeping in your mother's stomach

Side: Yes`
5 points

Life begins at some point in the belly, conscious life begins some point later on. That is the way I see it.

Side: No
5 points

life begins at the moment of conception hands down. Once conception happens even if you are a single cell at the time you are very much alive.

Side: No
2 points

Up vote. I agree. .

Side: No
3 points

I don't think so personally I think that it begins when the brain is fully developed and working. If we are classed as dead when the brain stops working why not alive when the brain starts to work?

Side: No
Chuz-Life(496) Clarified
1 point

Why do you feel the origin of an organism's life has to be determined by the criteria we decide is the end of that organism's life?

The legal end of a life is not necessarily defined by the same standards that the origin or beginning of a life is defined by.

Side: Yes`
Vermink(1943) Disputed
1 point

Because if the brain has stopped working then we're dead so that must mean it is our life-line and that life is likely to start when the brain has developed fully.

Side: Yes`
Banana_Slug(845) Disputed
1 point

brain is fully developed when you are about 15 years old.. .

Side: Yes`
Vermink(1943) Disputed
1 point

Fine then when it starts to work. and it's fully developed at age 25 not 15.

http://www.academic.marist.edu/mwwatch/fall05/science1.htm

Supporting Evidence: Proof (www.academic.marist.edu)
Side: No
2 points

No, because sperm are alive, and as soon as they fertilize the egg, life begins

Side: No
Banana_Slug(845) Disputed
1 point

then ever masturbation is a genocide or mass murder :D

Side: Yes`
Centifolia(1318) Disputed
1 point

nope, the sperm is not alive as it does not follow the characteristis of a living creatures.

A fertilized egg however fits the bill

Side: Yes`
2 points

I believe that life begins at conception but I am still prochoice. .

Side: No
2 points

Live began at least 3.5 billion years ago.

We don't know for sure if the life we have on Earth began here or was brought from another world by meteorites. Life on our planet has been literally the same since it began. We are the same first cell that we would consider to have been alive, which kept dividing for the past 3.5 billion years. We can be considered descendants from that cell, but in reality we are the same cell that kept dividing and changing gradually, working with its self, against its self, eating its self, etc. The sperm which fecundated the egg and the egg, which divided in your mother's womb for 9 months, are both descendants from that same original cell. What we call "birth" is something completely arbitrary which has meaning to us only because we reached that consensus. Without us to call it "birth", it would have no value. You didn't become alive today, nor 20 years ago, nor 20 years and 9 months ago.

tl;dr You became alive ~3.5 billion years ago, but you've only been aware of it for a few decades.

Side: No
1 point

Life never began and life never ends. The life force is an eternal cycle. Have no fear, my friends.

Side: No
Chuz-Life(496) Disputed
2 points

Using your logic, there is no basis for laws against murder.

An individual lifes being or physical existence has a clear point of origin.

Conception.

Side: Yes`
Buddhist(318) Clarified
1 point

I am an Anarchist so we can agree on that. :)

Side: Yes`
holomanga(10) Disputed
1 point

Actually, though the life doesn't end (reincarnation or whatever Buddhist believes happens after someone is shot through the brain), their family won't see the person for many, many years, and this would clearly cause some distress.

I'm not really agreeing with his position of life never starts or ends, but some info about what could be derived from his opinions always helps.

Side: No

Life and concious life are two different things. Life can exist in form of only one cell, but we are not sure when concious life begins...

Side: No

When the brain begins to control the body or switches on that is the start of life on my opinion.

Side: No
1 point

A human life begins when the fetus gains consciousness......

Side: No
1 point

Life begins when the egg cell appears. Because it has the capacity to become a person.

Side: No
1 point

It depends on what your definition of "begin" means. Does that mean when a fetus is formed? When the baby is actually born? Or when the child is old enough to comprehend the world around them and adapt? I personally see it has when comprehension becomes prominent. No one's life truly begins until they start living it themselves.

Side: No