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Yes No. Excon's plan
Debate Score:45
Arguments:37
Total Votes:57
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Does medicare for all end in no care for anyone?

Yes

Side Score: 30
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No. Excon's plan

Side Score: 15
2 points

It could do eventually.

In the U.K., one of the main gripes and the leading reason for Brexit is that people who paid their national Insurance Contributions (N.I.C.) all their lives are now being denied reasonable access to health care as the service is overwhelmed by legal Eastern European along with illegal Asian and African immigrants.

Millions of immigrant filth come to the U.K., for the free health service, free housing, free education and numerous other benefits.

This is what President Trump is trying to avoid.

Side: Yes
0 points

In the U.K., one of the main gripes and the leading reason for Brexit is that people who paid their national Insurance Contributions (N.I.C.) all their lives are now being denied reasonable access to health care as the service is overwhelmed by legal Eastern European along with illegal Asian and African immigrants.

That's a nice revision of the facts.

Brexit began as an internal dispute between the centre right and far right factions of the same Conservative Party, and the reason the NHS is struggling is the same reason it struggles every time there is a Conservative government: the Tories radically underfund it.

People like you really get on my nerves because you look for ways to blame immigrants for each and every problem that exists in the world, simply so you can self-justify your own hatred to yourselves.

Side: No. Excon's plan
outlaw60(15368) Disputed
2 points

What up ZZ Top ! Do you have some insanity going on today that Daddy told you about ?????

I have linked you one of your favorite rags

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/03/world/europe/uk-national-health-service.html

LONDON — At some emergency wards, patients wait more than 12 hours before they are tended to. Corridors are jammed with beds carrying frail and elderly patients waiting to be admitted to hospital wards. Outpatient appointments were canceled to free up staff members, and by Wednesday morning hospitals had been ordered to postpone nonurgent surgeries until the end of the month.

Cuts to the National Health Service budget in Britain have left hospitals stretched over the winter for years, but this time a flu outbreak, colder weather and high levels of respiratory illnesses have put the N.H.S. under the highest strain in decades.

The situation has become so dire that the head of the health service is warning that the system is overwhelmed.

Some doctors took to Twitter to vent their frustrations publicly. One complained of having to practice “battlefield medicine,” while another apologized for the “3rd world conditions” caused by overcrowding

Side: Yes
outlaw60(15368) Disputed
2 points

Amazing, he says, because he didn't have to pay — at least not at the point of service. In Britain, there's a state-funded system called the National Health Service, or NHS, which guarantees care for all. That means everything from ambulance rides and emergency room visits to long hospital stays, complex surgery, radiation and chemotherapy — are all free. They're paid for with payroll taxes. In addition, any medication you get during a hospital visit is free, and the cost of most prescription drugs at a pharmacy are cheap — a few dollars. (Private health care also exists in the U.K., paid out-of-pocket or through private insurance coverage, but only a small minority of residents opt for it.)

Since the 2008 financial crisis, the U.K., like many countries, has been taking in less tax revenue — so it's had to cut spending. Its expenditure on the National Health Service has still grown, but at a slower pace than before. That means drugs are now being rationed. Tens of thousands of operations have been postponed this winter. Wait times at the emergency room are up, says Richard Murray, policy director at the King's Fund, a health care think tank.

https://www.npr.org/sections/parallels/2018/03/07/591128836/u-k-hospitals-are-overburdened-but-the-british-love-their-universal-health

If Leftist oppose Capitalism how is it payroll taxes provide Free Healthcare ????????

Side: Yes
-1 points

This is what President Trump is trying to avoid.

Telling the truth is what President Trump is trying to avoid.

President Trump lied more than 3,000 times in 466 days

https://edition.cnn.com/2018/05/01/politics/donald-trump-3000/index.html

Side: No. Excon's plan
outlaw60(15368) Disputed
2 points

Now CNN is a good website so you should like this website !!!!!!

LONDON — At some emergency wards, patients wait more than 12 hours before they are tended to. Corridors are jammed with beds carrying frail and elderly patients waiting to be admitted to hospital wards. Outpatient appointments were canceled to free up staff members, and by Wednesday morning hospitals had been ordered to postpone nonurgent surgeries until the end of the month.

Cuts to the National Health Service budget in Britain have left hospitals stretched over the winter for years, but this time a flu outbreak, colder weather and high levels of respiratory illnesses have put the N.H.S. under the highest strain in decades.

The situation has become so dire that the head of the health service is warning that the system is overwhelmed.

Some doctors took to Twitter to vent their frustrations publicly. One complained of having to practice “battlefield medicine,” while another apologized for the “3rd world conditions” caused by overcrowding

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/03/world/europe/uk-national-health-service.html

Side: Yes
outlaw60(15368) Disputed
2 points

https://www.npr.org/sections/parallels/2018/03/07/591128836/u-k-hospitals-are-overburdened-but-the-british-love-their-universal-health

Amazing, he says, because he didn't have to pay — at least not at the point of service. In Britain, there's a state-funded system called the National Health Service, or NHS, which guarantees care for all. That means everything from ambulance rides and emergency room visits to long hospital stays, complex surgery, radiation and chemotherapy — are all free. They're paid for with payroll taxes. In addition, any medication you get during a hospital visit is free, and the cost of most prescription drugs at a pharmacy are cheap — a few dollars. (Private health care also exists in the U.K., paid out-of-pocket or through private insurance coverage, but only a small minority of residents opt for it.)

Since the 2008 financial crisis, the U.K., like many countries, has been taking in less tax revenue — so it's had to cut spending. Its expenditure on the National Health Service has still grown, but at a slower pace than before. That means drugs are now being rationed. Tens of thousands of operations have been postponed this winter. Wait times at the emergency room are up, says Richard Murray, policy director at the King's Fund, a health care think tank.

Side: Yes
outlaw60(15368) Disputed
2 points

Explain did NPR just say that Free Healthcare is paid for through payroll taxes ? Help me out here stupid can you define Free Healthcare ?????????????????????????

Side: Yes
0 points

It works in most of western Europe, Australia and New Zealand (UK, Canada and France are different, they have actual public healthcare, not the insurance).

Side: No. Excon's plan
2 points

How many illegal aliens are on Western Europe's dole and climbing...

I'll wait...

Our amount is more than the entire populations of most countries.

Side: Yes
Mingiwuwu(1446) Disputed
0 points

That's because you have more people in your country than any Western European country. Now try make it a percentage and calculate how much more those poor have to spend on as your country lacks public-anything other than education (which is shit-tier compared to other 'developed' nations) and then come back to me with how much money they can live on vs what they're given vs percent of your population fitting that criteria.

Side: No. Excon's plan
Mingiwuwu(1446) Clarified
1 point

Read my other reply and stop splitting replies up for points you pathetic point-whore. We all know what you do for points, bet you do even sluttier things to get Andy to not ban you for it anymore.

Side: Yes
outlaw60(15368) Disputed
2 points

Antarctica is your key word here -Most and what does most mean there dummy ?

Now what i have linked from one of your favorite Left Wing rags you are going to oppose?

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/03/world/europe/uk-national-health-service.html

LONDON — At some emergency wards, patients wait more than 12 hours before they are tended to. Corridors are jammed with beds carrying frail and elderly patients waiting to be admitted to hospital wards. Outpatient appointments were canceled to free up staff members, and by Wednesday morning hospitals had been ordered to postpone nonurgent surgeries until the end of the month.

Cuts to the National Health Service budget in Britain have left hospitals stretched over the winter for years, but this time a flu outbreak, colder weather and high levels of respiratory illnesses have put the N.H.S. under the highest strain in decades.

The situation has become so dire that the head of the health service is warning that the system is overwhelmed.

Some doctors took to Twitter to vent their frustrations publicly. One complained of having to practice “battlefield medicine,” while another apologized for the “3rd world conditions” caused by overcrowding

Side: Yes