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Yes. No.
Debate Score:7
Arguments:4
Total Votes:7
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Does need create right?

Yes.

Side Score: 1
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No.

Side Score: 6

Does the need for jobs create the right to picket, complain, extend unemployment, elect a different President? What right have you to elect some one else or participate, grumble, or want help?

Who said need doesn't create, right?

Side: Yes.
3 points

To say that something you need/crave/want/must attain is a right is to say that, somehow, a guardian angel has existed this whole time and has been giving you these things, either through God or Government.

In all actuality, government and the concept of God has not existed always existed. There was a time of cavemen just trying to survive. They didn't demand that others help them with their shit.

When government was formed, I would say that BIG government only came through force (in its initial appearance). Imperialism was once a thing of the norm. The tribe with the biggest warriors conquered the smaller tribes and was either kind (by making them the subalterned lesser tribes) or was ruthless (by turning them into slaves or just killing off all the men). Eventually, entire Empires were formed, and this "progress" that Authoritarians like to speak so highly of came merely from bloodshed, slavery and tyranny.

What rights do we have, if any? Well, in reality, there are none. If you believe in God, you believe in w/e the bible says is a right (if it even says that you do). But if you believe in God, you are surrendering any rights you may have to that God. If you are an Atheist, you must surely understand what a Universe is without God. It is neutral.

The Universe isn't good or bad. It isn't a place where innocents are taken advantage of and the wicked prosper. It simply "is what it is." Ideas of despair and downtrodden come from trying to get control. The media tells you that you must watch their news so that you know what to do just in case blahblahblah. The government says that it is necessary, or else you'll die in a gutter or get bombed by terrorists or get sodomized by a gang of angry homosexuals. The corporations warn you that if they fail the economy will collapse, so continue giving them all of that money that you are pissed off at them for having.

by saying that your needs are rights, they are instilling the Fear into you that keeps them in power. You fear what would happen to your "rights" if they no longer had power. It no longer becomes an issue on you as an individual, but on you as a part of something greater.

A list of people who believe in something made up like something greater than them:

Liberals

Conservatives

Christians

Other religious people

Environmentalists

Animal Rights Activists

Humanists

and so on.

These people, in believing that they are a part of something that is NOT neutral, give up the only thing that does actually exist; their individuality. But in a sense, if we can just give it up, does individuality exist? Maybe not. But the only ones, really, with the power to make that right exist is the individual. The government makes everything else exist... you just pay them your souls.

Side: No.
2 points

No, because if you need money to buy food then that doesn't give you the right to rob a man on the streets for it ( i hope someone understands what I'm trying to say here)

Side: No.

Absolutely not, because to entangle need with right, it implies that something must be taken from someone else who has more, and the problem is going to be the taker of the possession, it is usually government.

Basically, this need as a right only makes everyone poorer than richer because you are redistributing what is existing instead of creating more.

Side: No.