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Does random actualy occur anywhere in nature, or in universe?
Explain the principle of random. Does random actualy occur anywhere in nature, or in universe?
God invented math! Maybe that's why no one understands math anymore! There are hints here and there. There are two well-known references to the creation in the Scripture:Genesis 1: 1 and John 1: 1. Let’s look “underneath” the text of each of these.
Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. In Hebrew: Genesis 1:1 in Hebrew
If you examine the numerical values of each of the Hebrew letters, and the numerical value of the words (see chart), and apply them to this formula:
The number of letters x the product of the letters
The number of words x the product of the words
You get 3.1416 x 1017.
The value of π to four decimal places! Hmm. John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. In Greek: John 1:1 in Greek. This time if you take the numerical value of each of the Greek letters (see chart), and the numerical value of the words, and apply them to the same formula:
The number of letters x the product of the letters
Chromosomes are not random they are programed to the purpose.
And "respect to" means of predefined choices that is no more random than 2 number options on dice.
And if that's studied there are probably weighted factors.
Anyway it is not of equal nature to snowflakes or fingerprints. We even have determining factors for boy or girl in pregnancy. That's why some families seen to have more boys or girls.
The separation of each pair is random with respect to
all the other pairs. For each pair there is a maternal and a paternal chromosome which came from the mother and
father respectively. There is no mechanism to cause maternal
or paternal chromosomes to either associate with or repel one another. Therefore the orientation of each chromosome pairs
is random with respect to other chromosome pairs. This is necessary for the independent assortment of genes, an important principle of genetics. It also allows for gametes,
and thus offspring, to be much more genetically variable than they would be if all the paternal and maternal chromosomes were inherited as a unit.
Do you honestly think I didn't know that you customized some dubious information from the internet?
The problem here is that your thick skull is so full of mad dog's shit that you are incapable of recognizing the scientific facts which are accepted by the medical profession worldwide.
Trying to have a rational and reasoned debate with an intransigent imbecile is futile and I fail to see why you asked the question in the first place as you are so stubbornly entrenched with your own cockeyed opinion.
Go and peddle your folksy drivel to those who can be easily fooled by a 2 bit charlatan.
When your efforts prove ineffective may I suggest that you go and yodel up the canyon, or some other mindless pursuit more commensurate with your arrested intellect.
MY MESSAGE IS;- You're nothing more than a pretentious little phony and I've done with you, shoo, shoo.
I think God is proven, as science is grappling with these things, with a scientific awareness of properties related to time, and light and invisible dimensions, the microcosm, and macrocosm, and even the theorie of science is saying, our universe exists without a point of singularity, meaning the universe is finite. Which still what's on the other side?
And even in Steven Hawkins creative dome of "curved space" which he claims has properties able to cause it all to "create itself," from within itself, well what is in the microcosm?
How about common sense? These are all discussed by people without a particle accelerator!
All these concepts have been described in a book 1000s of years ago. For being a top notch physicist, how can you not ask if Biblical knowledge and concepts are curiously applicable, then why and how do these concepts make it into the Bible, but it doesn't just simply make it into the Bible. It's consistent through every writer, it is the entirety of its mrssage!
Some of the Bible authors expand the concepts even more than the others.
And then Jesus took these concepts out, and showed them expanded for understanding that surpassed their language and their advancements!
Giving understanding to the foolish Bible writers and God's people that confound the intelligent, and are just unraveling now to modern Quantum Physicists.
So I can see why God said over and over He will make fools of the wise and intelligent and make geniuses out of the simple.
Simply put, we understand Quantum Physics by the simple way of faith, and Quantum Physics took 6000 years to gain an outline of its complications.
Whereas by faith, we have lived it. So we understand it, by understanding simplicity, they are too smart to understand it even when the principles we have always known in faith have "come to light."
Maybe in some way, everything that is hidden comes to light, and those who love darkness can't experience light, is this property.
God will mock them by their own intelligence, as their own intelligence should have pointed them to the Creator, the Word of God, created all things.
So is it any wonder that Quantum Physics is strung through like connecting strings throughout the Bible?
The math is there, it is summed up in this, they choose to worship and serve the creature rather than the Creator, even though Creation itself confirms God so everyone of us is without excuse.
Aren't we seeing Creation itself confirming everything God ever said?
I think so!
That's when common sense then is more advanced then science!
If these Physics principles are true Mr Steven Hawkins of Physics Science, then how are they know by the ancient prophets?
There are several scriptures that say space has some density. According to scripture, Heaven (space) can be bent, can be shaken, rolled up, bent like a tent for God to enter and dwell in. Scripture has defined light as a property that transcends present and goes into past presents and future at one time.
Elijah in a battle shows dimensions to his servant by praying Lord show him, and the servant saw angels ready for battle. In an unseen, unknowable dimmmension.
Mathmatics?
The Bible is riddled with patterns of mathmatical proportions beyond their possible advancements!
Pi is found in the Hebrew numerical value of Genesis 1:1 the equation of advanced math "e" found in the Greek numeric value of John 1: 1 - Both of these scriptures announced Creation.
So to find advancements of math are indicative of purposeful design right in the 1st verses of both the old and new Testament are interesting to say the least!
And written language even its direction Hidden in the text showing both ways with YHWY in the middle in math equation of divisibility by the famous number "7" And these are just puzzle pieces, but they fit together like the are one picture scattered in pieces that undeniably are pieces of ONLY one picture.
How does that happen through 1000s of years and 66 writers that make up One Book? God's Word to mankind, in one Singularity, "One Bang" One - the smallest division that is the single point of Oneness, in Quantum Physics, is God in the microcosm?
It seems to me that the micro cosmetology is the point of Creation. We find God in a Kingdom of Light that is One. We are stones making up this One Kingdom, not divided against itself, because it is divided down to its oneness of division, where no division beyond it exists. ONE! The Lord our God is ONE!
Can you imagine when God unravels all his secrets hidden in the text, how foolish smart men like Steven Hawkins will be on that day?
And think about it, two languages used to write the Bible, Hebrew and in the time of Jesus Greek.
Two languages where each letter conveys three interpretive properties. multi- dimensional thought in writing!
letter value to form words, picture value for understanding concept, and numeric value to code writing in diversities as complicated as DNA coding. Which if applied may suggest digital coding, a hologram, living in a matrix with dimensions of unseen particles right next to us. Which some can perceive and others are dull to.
It's unusual when you look st the Bible from a prespective of God in physics and mathmatics.
And appearances of "ufos" are curious they seem to come and go through dimensions. Well the Bible talks about this in
I think this warfare mentioned in the Bible at the very least is hands down curious and to the wise should be investigated.
Even the Resurrection is a dimensional concept. And the Bible weirdly went out of its way to highlight these things. And science proves God everyday. Can we box God in by science, but because within this crazy book, every crazy science advancement is detailed!
So the common sense would be who told the guy without technology that Light is eternal and can be everywhere at once?
Or that right next to us are dimensional factors of presence that can't be seen with the physical eye, like in many places but Elijah is a good example?
Or that genes can be manipulated and cross mutated on purpose with creatures to make unnatural creation by manipulating basic natural creation?
Or that a hair on the head is knowing us, our individuality in a hair?
Or a transformation of our physical bodies by a twinkling of an eye which is speed of light as seen in photography, the speed of light that enters the pupil of the eye?
And the references to these, Like when Jesus says if the eye
has light the body is full of light. so we have Jesus describing
a transcending of dimension by Light in the eye, transforming our mortality to immortality, and in Thessalonians it's described as happening in a "twinkling"
How did they know the speed of light that transcends our physicality? Or time? Or the place where light in arc of direction is an eternal property. Where light speed is so fast that time stands still. Or that the theory of Quantum Physics shows what the Bible says the sword of His Word dividing to the smallest possible division.
Hebrews 4:12
For the word of God is living and active and sharper than any two-edged sword, and piercing as far as the division of soul and spirit, of both joints and marrow, and able to judge the thoughts and intentions of the heart.
The whole Bible is physics. String Theory?
Hmm oneness?
The last final division possible in physical locality, results in non-locality, and it becomes one with everything.
How much is Oneness discussed in the Bible?
It's weird to have all these concepts rolled up and discussed exhaustingly from Genesis to Revelations!
Oneness, God, the Trinity, The Spirit within us, Oneness within us making communication with God possible by breaking down our physical consciousness and opening up our dimensional consciousness.
Oneness, able to communicate in subparticles in many degrees of division to the marrow! not through expansion out but in. The wheels in Ezekiel shining with eyes all around it, inside each other by way of projecting dimensions within dimensions.
God is found in the lowest possible division, where one singularity exists as a Kingdom that cannot divide against itself! Hello? Is God in Science? Well hasn't He described it all along?
What holds a Kingdom together, and what divides a Kingdom.
Matt 12
25 And knowing their thoughts Jesus said to them, “Any kingdom divided against itself is laid waste; and any city or house divided against itself will not stand.
26 If Satan casts out Satan, he is divided against himself; how then will his kingdom stand?
27 If I by Beelzebul cast out demons, by whom do your sons cast them out? For this reason they will be your judges.
28 But if I cast out demons by the Spirit of God, then the kingdom of God has come upon you.
29 Or how can anyone enter the strong man’s house and carry off his property, unless he first binds the strong man? And then he will plunder his house.
30 He who is not with Me is against Me; and he who does not gather with Me scatters.
The zealot Haven does this a lot. In fact I just finished calling her out on another debate on how she cut and pasted from a 16 year-old article and presented the info (which was taken out of context to begin with) and tried to pass it off as her own.
This is what she cannot debate you when you question an aspect of one of her posts with science in it. Because she does not really understand the science; she simply pastes it. Which is, last time I checked, plagiarism if you don't attribute a source.
So,,,you get what you got above: she can only say "Well that's what it says in the textbook!" instead of debating the faulty science. So when somebody like you or I come along who KNOWS the science, all she can do is tell us she got the shit from another article, and then she'll paste in a few bible tracts for good measure! LOL. Even if they don't have much to do with the subject at hand.
It was asked. You said: "When does God speak anything into existence?" I answered and said he speak life to His followers. That's basically anything because you said anything.
Evolution is manipulative science, designed to remove God, and say we are gods and we created ourselves.
Evolution pseudo science says, our selective process was superior, and we selected every advantage for our survival, and evolution toward superior advancements.
So then where are our near equals, how did one species jump not just centimeters, inches but miles?
And our self creation also was intelligent to manage economic system, balance, and harmony in nature.
Yet man is proving the opposite as they devour themselves and waste their resources, and dominate, war, murder, steal, conspire, and are destructive even to their own lives, yet we are gods who self created, and as the dominant by intelligence, we the also decided what thrives and doesn't throughout our own evolutionary process.
Self creation, by self god, with selfish evolution for self survival along with self thriving, and self selection of mutation for our own dominance.
Such nonsense!
Think it through, this is NOT biology. It's a religion! And it takes an obnoxious illogical ignorance and unverifiable faith to believe in it!
Scientists didn't take God out of evolution, you religitards did. No where in any science book describing evolution will you see mention of God.
So then where are our near equals, how did one species jump not just centimeters, inches but miles?
When you define miles as any distance you feel like you will see there are no near equals.
Yet man is proving the opposite as they devour themselves and waste their resources, and dominate, war, murder, steal, conspire, and are destructive even to their own lives, yet we are gods who self created, and as the dominant by intelligence, we the also decided what thrives and doesn't throughout our own evolutionary process.
So, when we act more equal to animals you just ignore it. Typically hypocritical of you.
Self creation, by self god, with selfish evolution for self survival along with self thriving, and self selection of mutation for our own dominance.
Did you ever stop to think that this self creation nonsense you added was completely absent from your initial assessment of evolution?
Such nonsense!
Agreed since it has nothing to do with evolution. It is only mentioned by religitards.
Think it through, this is NOT biology.
It was until you added your religious bullshit.
. It's a religion!
Yeah, your religion added to evolution.
And it takes an obnoxious illogical ignorance and unverifiable faith to believe in it!
God is Light, Oneness, microcosm, the dimension of glorification, not bound by the 6 dimensions of our world, 6 is the fallen dimension, 7 is the dimension that transcends the fall.
2 images, DNA dimensions of image, coding our DNA. Individually in ourselves made One with the spark of it all, the eye of the needle through the cross and Resurection to transcend our finate universe and take a space trip into eternity with God in His Kingdom, beyond the finate start of this world, glorified bodies not under the dimensions of the form and dust this world has taken, and forced to live under, the serpents belly, but through the cross breaking our outer shells we enter the oneness of God, and with bodies like the Risen Lord Jesus, as we are changed in a " twinkling of an eye"
FYI - This is Christianity! The Water Truth and the Life, pick up your cross and follow through death to this world and by living today according to the world beyond the cross and the grave!
Jesus says fall on the rock and be broken and set free, or the rock will fall on you, and crush you like the dust you are, is the dust you will remain!
"It's hard to keep oxygen molecules around, despite the fact that it's the third-most abundant element in the universe, forged in the superhot, superdense core of stars. That's because oxygen wants to react; it can form compounds with nearly every other element on the periodic table. So how did Earth end up with an atmosphere made up of roughly 21 percent of the stuff?
The answer is tiny organisms known as cyanobacteria, or blue-green algae. These microbes conduct photosynthesis: using sunshine, water and carbon dioxide to produce carbohydrates and, yes, oxygen. In fact, all the plants on Earth incorporate symbiotic cyanobacteria (known as chloroplasts) to do their photosynthesis for them down to this day.
For some untold eons prior to the evolution of these cyanobacteria, during the Archean eon, more primitive microbes lived the real old-fashioned way: anaerobically. These ancient organisms—and their "extremophile" descendants today—thrived in the absence of oxygen, relying on sulfate for their energy needs.
But roughly 2.45 billion years ago, the isotopic ratio of sulfur transformed, indicating that for the first time oxygen was becoming a significant component of Earth's atmosphere, according to a 2000 paper in Science. At roughly the same time (and for eons thereafter), oxidized iron began to appear in ancient soils and bands of iron were deposited on the seafloor, a product of reactions with oxygen in the seawater."
I can't wait to be more aware of my sleeping thoughts then, because the thoughts when awake are fast and full of puzzles that fit together, creating a bigger formed picture with every puzzle piece added.
It's a shame you don't realize how tightly woven the good book is.
Well...we could intellectually engage the idea of the beloved, fictional and mythological nothing monster that atheists are trying to dogmatically sell to the masses. Where did said "nothing monster" come from? What are the nothing monster's characteristics? Where did it get its devine and magic powers? These are the answers we must know. Please provide said answer Cartman, and not for our benefit so much, but for your own. Why? Because if said "nothing monster" exists what an exciting adventure we could embark on together. And if a devine "something" exists? What an exciting adventure to embark on together. And what a shame it would be to not search out said "devine something" if "devine something" does exist, might exist, or is even only slightly probable of existing. The point? We need sufficient evidence of the atheist "nothing monster", otherwise you and I my friend are paddling in the same boat, looking at each other with an equally bumfuzzled look, and with equal reason to do so? Mr Chairman I give you back the floor.
We are still waiting for you to explain away the problems that Evolution has per the scientific evidence. Go ahead. We are waiting. I mean if you can't even give us the basics, you have faith.
I have faith that you are ignorant and you want to remain ignorant. That is driving me not to give you any information. So, in a sense you were sort of right.
I concede that anyone who believes that they know for sure that there is no God is mindless. But, I don't know any Atheists who believe that, and that's not what you were claiming they think either.
Sure I do. Show us the billions of intermediaries in the fossil record that it would take to get from simple organisms to humans. Then explain the Cambrian Explosion. Then explain why anyone who opposes any part of Darwinian dogma is cast out of the field as if it is a cult.
Well then it should be easy for you. Explain to us the Cambrian Explosion and why there are not the billions of intermediaries in the fossil record that it takes to get from simple organisms to human beings.
I know it's impossible. It's also impossible to explain how "ancient dinosaur bones" have Carbon 14 inside of them, which means they can't be old per common sense to anyone that knows about Carbon 14. The point, someone is lying, and perhaps all involved are lying. Is the Atheist molecular biologist David Berlinski wrong? Are you anti Atheist biologist?
Unfortunately, I don't have the information to give you for soft tissue found in dinosaur bones. I am sure you would fully understand it if I did have it.
Berlinski is wrong, but for entirely different reasons.
They don't. They show how bizarre and crazy the Darwinian claims are. And what's worse, is they can't even prove any of this crap, yet become militant if anyone refutes it, whether a biologist or someone in a debate forum.
The Cambrian explosion was over the course of millions and millions of years. That's plenty of time for species to appear. There is no lack of the intermediary fossils. You will never be satisfied with the number of fossils.
The fossil record has layers that break up the different geologic eras. You won't find any fossils from the Mesozoic era in the Jurassic fossil layer. This indicates that life progresses linearly and was not created together. DNA shows the changes that occurred to create diversity in life. And, we have seen lizards evolve into 2 different groups that couldn't breed.
Yeah probably won't because they can't even get us 30 in a row, much less one billion. And the ones that are "in a row" aren't even found in the same areas...
You made 4 non responses to my real response. What you need is to figure out what it is that believing in God actually gets you because it isn't answers.
We are still waiting Cartman. Making attacks on me doesn't help your cause. It's just consuming time that you could be making points... if you had any.
Abiogenesis did I hear you say? So tell us how that happened. Tell us how something resembling extremely advanced computer code plus consciousness just popped into existence.
And..... abiogenesis is a theory with zero proof. And if there was a bout of supernatural activity, which the theory of abiogenesis seems to be, then that leans us more my direction.
I don't believe in abiogenesis or Darwinism because it refutes itself, but if they were fact, that would only show us the process by which God created life. Even those processes would have to come from someone. They couldn't have just popped into existence. That's the point.
The fossil record does not indicate that. The fossil record shows species appearing and then going away. If your idea was true we would see species appear in the earliest fossil record until they finally went extinct.
Not actually. The Bible is clear that plants were created at one time. Water creatures next and at another future time. Birds and Land animals came next at a future time. Humans came last. Exactly as is shown in science.
And the fact that they are finding blood vessels in so called dinosaur bones now, has got them all jacked up. They'll have to do an overhaul on the dating process and Darwinian theory now. Let's see what kind of crap they can come up with to explain this one away.
Everything is (cause and effect). The appearance of randomness is only the illusion created when we do not understand how to calculate and manipulate all the variables leading to any effect.
For example the effect of gravity is relatively easy to understand when an apple falls from a tree, however gravity and it's effects are very much more complex when you ask how does gravity shape the universe. Many complex effects are simply beyond our ability to predict, but are still not random.
Um. Architects, Astronauts, Tax specialists, physicists, mathematicians, Chemists, Engineers, Doctors....all understand math to varying degrees, some have more experience and knowledge in it than others but a LARGE number of professions out there rely heavily on math so naturally they would understand it.
They do not understand math if they don't understand probability. It's facetious, I think they can balance a checkbook!
But on matters of probability they have an awful lot of faith in evolution. It's more probable the Red Sea parted than evolution randomly assembled itself!
Probability: the extent to which something is probable; the likelihood of something happening or being the case.
Most people understand probability, both the Atheist and the Theist alike. A person is fully capable of understanding both probability and mathematical equation. One is not mutually exclusive to the other.
Why wouldn't Evolution be regarded as science? Do you think religion and science can't co-exist? One can't believe in one AND the other? We are still trying to grasp quite a bit about the past, Big Bang theory, evolution, Creation, we don't have all the answers. Now you can point to the bible as absolute evidence for your belief but you have to allow the same to the scientist who points to scientific evidence as evidence for his/her belief.
Where is evolution now. Why did it stop? Is is like processing hair dye?
And of to make a DNA chain as complicated a code in hemoglobin is a probability to occur without intelligence to begin with is 10 to the 650th power, then how is it probable in a world where many sequences must form equally complicated sequences for many different parts of an animal or human. Then multiplied by the diversity of creatures?
Even if reuse was a factor, that would be like hitting the powerball lottery a couple times a day everyday straight times xyz!
What is your evidence that evolution stopped? It is ongoing and it takes TIME. A lot of it. Bacteria evolves, germs evolve, in fact it is a huge worry that the latest round of vaccines won't stop most diseases they currently stop if the disease evolves. Why do we have wisdom teeth, why do we have an appendix, why do we have a tail bone? We evolved. We don't need them anymore but they are a vestigial part of us.
Not really, bacteria already exists. Out of nothing like the many assemblies on the day of evolution!
Your hoodwinked. The truth is if evolution happened there would still be the same processes occurring out of the basic raw material, or did all the raw material already take lifeforms?
What you don't realize is evolution is the creation story without God, without intelligence.
Here is the kicker, even greater an insult to the Creator than another god getting credit and the loyalty of mankind in worship to it, is for man to say no God at all made us.
Since we know that's not true, then if evolution were true, we would see it from raw materials just as it occurred during their creation days, which they call evolution.
What you don't realize is what is actually evolution.
Evolution is selective assemblies of complex design which occurred by intelligent selection by a random designer. And from raw material. So then if raw material still exists, then where is random assembly of these raw forms.
It's a logical reasonable conclusion to look for new life in a sealed thing of peanut butter, or a sealed can of tomatoes. If assembly occurred then then why do businesses invest millions to assure nothing live gets in to start something growing.
If it could grow without design of at least an initially assembled intelligent design, then how would random chance assemble them then or ever?
Is your basis for not accepting evolution the fact that rocks don't evolve in the sense of animals/humans evolving?
No, evolution isn't a creation story without God, you just have to expand your mind and get over the ego of believing God created the human form as it is now, in His image. It's one possibility among so very many but believing in the science of evolution doesn't exclude believing in God. That's just close minded thinking.
Why do business invest millions to make sure nothing living gets packed in their product? Because not all living things are good for the human body. Like, mold. Or e. coli.
That anything is not evolving. Is it that smart really?
Evolution is intelligent design without a God needed.
Random nothing is made higher than the intelligent designer.
Even to the point evolution raises the dead!
What was the 1st DNA?
Sun damages skin and mutates skin cells, but skin already exists to mutate. Bacteria mutates existing bacteria.
But what gave life to matter? Even if damp conditions grew mold spores, are we mold spores, and isn't some cellular life needed for mold spores?
Mutate doesn't that mean change from life form to another life form? So now does evolution also resurrect the dead, yet God can't raise Jesus from the dead?
Really?? Logic says evolution is nothing but pseudo biology, and pseudo chef cooking up recipes of existing life forms in a petri dish by hands of intelligent input, contrary to my true thought that intelligent hands is a stretch in imagination. There isn't intelligent thought in evolution. There are the very foolish, and the very decieved. But no one is into evolution as a result of intelligence.
So let's get this straight the first dna was assembled by nothing alive, but was made alive by dead random evolution.
And you guys call it biology? Biology is the study of living things. So how did evolution breathe life into the first winning lottery ticket??
If you are confused as to why you haven't seen substantial evolutionary growth within 1000 years, then you aren't listening when people tell you what evolution's timeline is like.
The only thing anyone has ever given are pieces of lifeforms that already exist.
What lifeforms arrived in the big bang or inverted black hole of gravity or whatever it is on the given day of the wise and intelligent?
I'm looking for the workings of the same that is claimed of evolution.
Cancer cells are mutations of existing cells. Same with bacteria and virus. So we have biology cooks, chefs who take life forms that already are designed, then combine them, to make a different fruit, and think it's evolution. It is not, that's just cooking!
No, we got answers. We moved on past questioning because of those answers.
But when you ignore those answers and come up with strawmen, you won't end up finding them. You are going into this with a conclusion that you are determined to prove, rather than looking at all the evidence and changing your beliefs accordingly.
Is there a particular reason you copy/pasted that 3 times? We have vestigial parts because we no longer need them, we still aren't 100% sure what some of them, like the appendix, was used for. Again, I'm not thinking you understand what evolution is. If you are trying to limit it to 100 or 1000 years you are basically reading one page in a 50,000 page book and claiming you know the entire book from that one page.
So we are digital? and what is random acces? It's not random it is patterned memory access. It has intelligent input that tells it how to respond with memory need. But it is not "random"
Actually it would be easier to take your question seriously if you spelt correctly .. Are you touching on information theory and the philosophy of entropy ? .. Read me some Godel, I'll try not to yodel ..
And then, multiply it by the year Napoleon III (1873) died, divided by the age Douglas Adams Died (49), and we get...
666x10^32
HOLY SHIT.
MATH WAS MADE BY SATAN.
HAIL SATAN.
In all seriousness, these patterns in the bible are not random. They are not coincidence. And, sorry, they are not God.
They are the creation of a few bored scholars with a calculator. Being accurate to 4 significant digits is pretty bad -- I was able to obtain 666 albeit fudging at the end with the Napoleon thing.
You can use this formula to come out with any number you want, no fudging required. Note that they pay absolutely no attention whatsoever to the order of magnitude. Pi is given as 10^40, and only to 4 digits, and e is given to a completely different order of magnitude.
The way this works is simple. The numerator and denominator will produce a ratio that varies wildly depending on the word. You can use this ratio to find the first few digits of any number you like, whether it be e, pi, 666, whatever.
Two ways of finding your own ratios in the bible, or any book, really:
1. Choose a number.
2. Find a passage that roughly gives you what you need, using letter values for whatever ancient language you can get a translation is.
3. Figure out what multiplier you need from that point to acquire the number you are looking for. For me, it was 3.8318, so I found that 1873/49 is close enough within 3 significant digits. Then, if you're not as lazy as I am, you alternate the translation slightly until you get a word/letter combo to give you 666. Might take a couple hours, hence why I fudged it. There are so many translations of the bible, you can get away with it.
4. Post it online and ask people to buy your book.
As for "Does random actually occur?", yes. See the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle. There is a fundamental uncertainty in the universe.
And what does it have to do with? Is it of specific purpose? Your example is not comparable. It's absurd. I'm not sure what happened to reasoning skills
And is it a continuity of message or something. And it seems like you had to do an awful lot of steps to get to a disconnected conclusion.
You should get a refund for your science education.
I had a real simple, not spread out, easy to decipher, easy to see and explain, unfolded by way that is too simple to be coincidences.
Because you don't have to do back flips to see it.
I can see if I was doing something with many steps spread out in 500 characters of course your bound to find something.
But we went to Genesis1: 1 and John 1: 1 - Both are verses on creation in the very 1st verse. Your dense!
So what I picked up from the above rant was that your proposal to us is the disturbing force in this video did it. "Did it" meaning? Spawned reality, life, the cosmos, dogs, trees, cats...-
Sorry. We don't believe in the Atheist god, the invisible nothing monster that manifested everything from its magical nothingness. We do believe James Gates and the double slit experiment though. boy quantums are playing hell with Atheists nowadays.
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No math is pattern .. calling pattern satan demonizes rationality .. Can I call common sense satan ?? The agonizing sameness of average intelligence .. Normative humanity .. no .. can't send them all to hell .. You just said shit is holy .. how about molten Iron is satan .. I'm pretty sure there's molten Iron in the centre of the Earth ..
If we lived in a digital simulation, are miracles possible by the author of its code?
Explain the principle of random. Does random actualy occur anywhere in nature, or in universe?
What is fictional in the Bible? Have you investigated it? Or is that an assumption?
Regarding miracles, if more is authenticated then not, and if some stories are found true, that are unlikely. Then are the miracles also possible?
My example is Joseph, the coat of many color.
It is not highly likely that a boy from the Hebrew tribe, would be sold by his brothers into slavery, then become the most exalted dignitary in Egypt.
Now, God did prophesy it to Joseph's great grandfather Abraham, along with the following 400 years of slavery.
So how does a boy beaten and sold end up a like a king in Egypt.
So was this coincidence? Without supernatural sequence of events? Two men rose up in foreign nations by interpreting dreams and visions.
Both of these men went through a series of conspiracies, persecution, unjustifiable imprisonment, to being elevated to the highest court. Joseph and then also Daniel.
But looking at Joseph, archeological finds have uncovered a timeline confirming sequential consecutive events as told in the Bible.
So historically, whether the skeptics want to admit it or not, well the finds are just visibly obvious regardless.
It falls under not understanding math again, probability of finding each lined up in order like dominoes isn't statistically possible. But I guess math is subjective and individually deterministic just like truth, 😬
So they found signs of Joseph, and the famine, and Joseph's unusual exaltation in Egypt, and the migration of his family to Egypt then etc etc etc... see Pattern of Evidence - documentary
So if these things are real, are really they just coincidences?
And if they are just coincidences, then what is the probability of it occuring? And what is the probability of several coincidences of this magnitude of unusual occurring?
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God invented math! Maybe that's why no one understands math anymore!
There are hints here and there. There are two well-known references to the creation in the Scripture:
Genesis 1: 1 and John 1: 1.
Let’s look “underneath” the text of each of these.
Genesis 1:1
In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
In Hebrew:
Genesis 1:1 in Hebrew
If you examine the numerical values of each of the Hebrew letters, and the numerical value of the words (see chart), and apply them to this formula:
The number of letters x the product of the letters
The number of words x the product of the words
You get 3.1416 x 1017. The value of π to four decimal places! Hmm.
John 1:1
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
In Greek:
John 1:1 in Greek
This time if you take the numerical value of each of the Greek letters (see chart), and the numerical value of the words, and apply them to the same formula:
The number of letters x the product of the letters
The number of words x the product of the words
You now get 2.7183 x 1040, the value of e.
Curious!
Why does Israel and God's Word and Jesus divide huge significant effects to everyone in the entire world, a mid point in half, like God is the center of the entire world, even the universe?
The below shows something crazy, that in no way was in the hands of an old Jewish guy to control.
We all know Jesus is so part of the destiny of the world that even TIME is divided by the knowledge of Him - A.D. and B.C.
But this is found in the ancient texts hidden.
The world and languages go from reading left to right or right to left. Most written languages were in process of developing. Like time, written language is directed like a directors chair perched in Jerusalem.
All languages EAST of Jerusalem write Right to Left.
All languages WEST of Jerusalem write Left to Right.
We have this also - torh spelled reading in two directions in Hebrew. Backward and forward with YHWY in the middle.
Are There Hidden Codes in the Biblical Text?
The secrets of the Torah are revealed... in the
skipping of the letters.
Rabbi Moses Cordevaro, 16th century
Torah Codes
49 (72) letter sequences:
• Genesis TORH - in Hebrew at a 49 letter interval pattern
• Exodus TORH - in Hebrew at a 49 letter interval pattern
• Leviticus ? YHWH in a 7 pattern, square root of 49
• Numbers HROT - in Hebrew at a 49 letter interval pattern
• Deuteronomy HROT - in Hebrew at a 49 letter interval pattern
