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 Does religion blind people or open minds? (182)

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Does religion blind people or open minds?

Every debate I have been in, everything goes back to religion 
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3 points

It blinds the minds of people, forcing them to worship something they've never really had proof of, but read it in some book. FREE YOURSELVES PEOPLE!

2 points

Exactly! It sets a boundary or a limit to a lot of things, giving us an answer that hasn't been proven in any possible way..

I agree

Religion blinds a person to all reason and teaches them to defend the faith against all reason.

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I think it depends on the kind of faith that you have in whatever religion you follow

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Exactly, most religions focus on a really closed mindset, like Islam or Christianity, they block our imagination of what is beyond, or who created us and so on. It sets an answer that isn't even logical in some cases anymore. While other religions, Buddhism for example, focus on the complete opposite, and welcome opinions and assumptions about our universe.

luckin(175) Clarified
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Just out of curiosity, where would you say that something like Islam and Christianity teach a closed mindset? What about something like Buddhism with open opinions?

Wilted(5) Disputed
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Irrespective of what faith one follows and irrespective of whether that faith is "right or wrong", adhering to such rigid doctrines requires the ignorance of many of the laws of nature and amazing scientific discoveries of mankind. To shut these things out I think is a shame.

luckin(175) Clarified
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If there were evidence that a particular religion were true, would you follow it?

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It does both. It depends on the individual which effect is dominant.

It opens your mind when you learn the many ways to be good. It closes your mind when you become a dogma thumper screaming at the ways you believe are bad.

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It all depends on your perspective. For some, religion opens doors and is a beatiful thing. For others, it holds them back. I dont deal in absolutes. I think there is always a grey area.

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It really depends on the person. There are some people that use religion to bind them to only one train of thought, anything else is seen as wrong. But there are others that are capable of seeing both sides of a coin and entertaining thoughts beyond what the bible teaches. Religion is simply a tool, the wielder is the deciding factor on what it's used for.

Does atheism blind people and keep them from Christ? These are the questions that we theists need answers to. (Sarcasm)

I'm a theist. It actually allows me to think about concepts, ideas, and possibilities that are neccessarily suppressed with Atheism.

Cartman(18192) Disputed
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Does atheism blind people and keep them from Christ?

No. That's a result of stupid people like you. Don't take that as an insult. Many of the people who believe in Christ say stupid things and cause others to be blinded and kept away from Christ. It isn't from the lack of belief in God.

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What I got from that was...

Cartman is so weak that the words and actions of other flawed and imperfect humans actually decides whether he accepts theism or not. Explains a lot actually...

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Don't take that as an insult.

When mental midgets get huffy and puffy, and rail on and on in unintelligable tirades of emotion... I just laugh at them for the dumbass clowns they are. I'm laughing at this very moment point of fact. I'd say I know what it's like to be here for years without making hardly a debate and having no ability to develope an argument on a debate site, but I don't. Of course that's why I block you. I'll debate an idiot, but debating someone who can't even take a position like a man or back their words? Naaa... I have no need to continue to make someone who is mentally helpless and constantly butthurt to the point of childlike cursing fits look even stupider than they already are.

NowASaint(1380) Clarified
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Fartman, if you know people are saying stupid things that keep you away from Christ, then you must understand the correct thing which is the standard you use to call other things stupid.

Since you know the correct thing which is reason to trust Christ as your Savior, you should trust Christ as your Savior or place the blame for not doing so where it belongs.....on yourself.

excon(18260) Disputed
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Hello bront:

I don't care what you "NEED" to know.. Who in the hell do you think you are?? I owe you NOTHING! Never ONCE in our brief relationship have I DEMANDED to know stuff about Christianity.. First off, it's a PRIVATE matter. And, secondly, in this great country of ours, you're FREE to believe whatever you like, and I DON'T question it.. We don't TALK about your beliefs, because they're NONE OF MY BUSINESS. I've NEVER told you that you're wrong.. Our dialogue has been ONE way - and ONE way only.. And, that's ME telling YOU about my atheism..

Clearly, you haven't understood a word I said. You're NOT interested in learning FROM me about atheism.. You're interested in TELLING me about atheism.

excon

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Never ONCE in our brief relationship have I DEMANDED to know stuff about Christianity.. First off, it's a PRIVATE matter

My beliefs aren't private. If they were, I wouldn't have multiple sites that back them, and I wouldn't be on a debate site.

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And, secondly, in this great country of ours, you're FREE to believe whatever you like, and I DON'T question it.

So if I planned mass rape assaults and literally believed I had been communicated with by space aliens that told me to blow up the Superbowl, you wouldn't question it...

I'll put that in my thesis about Liberalism...

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We don't TALK about your beliefs, because they're NONE OF MY BUSINESS

We do and have talked about my beliefs. Sky daddy seems to ring a bell. Ding!

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I've NEVER told you that you're wrong

I've never said Atheism is false. I simply have opposed the logic used to declare it as true because it is based on logical fallacies. And I have done it on a debate site. I don't discuss religion with atheists in normal life.

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You're NOT interested in learning FROM me about atheism

Quote: You "believe in nothing." End quote.

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Exactly! And to be honest those ideas are more likely to be true than any of the ones mentioned in religions,and way more logical!

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So a magical nothing that manifested everything from its magical nothingness is likely? Hmmm... guess not.

If anything allows you to question and ponder upon things, it opens minds, on the other hand if something wants you believe in something without questioning, and typically comes down to "that's the way it is" , it blinds people. It is completely a person's opinion whether to be blinded or question what's in front of him/her..

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Okay. Do you question that a magical nothing created everything from its magical nothingness, or do you blindly accept it as true...

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Okay. Do you question that a magical nothing created everything from its magical nothingness, or do you blindly accept it as true...

What I believe, comes from deductions made on all that we know till date.

It depends on the religion. Their aim and how(method) they intend to reach it.

But nevertheless, religion does only blind mediocre minds, and chains the weakly spirited. Mediocres are 70% of earth's population.

Strong minds can easily detect that something is wrong with their religion and therefore must act fast.

This has nothing to do with atheism.

Because something is wrong with your religion doesn't mean God doesn't exist.

Atheism is another dimension of mediocre minds. They are just in suit faking to be perceived as diplomatic.

That would depend on how you approach the question. If trying a new religion one could say that it opens minds. It opens the person to a new realm of beliefs, morals, new concepts, etc. It can also be said that religion blinds people to the world around them. It blinds people to primarily scientific based explanation of the world, but mostly to anything that doesn't even appear to align with their religion. Religion can blind people from the opinions of others and possibly even the person hood of another.

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Your religion, be it atheist or Catholic or Hindu or Muslim or whatever, makes you feel like you have the right to exist outside of the eternal condemnation of the fire of Hell. It is based on what you do, and it blinds you to reality. In reality, you have the right to nothing good and are worthy of nothing but eternal condemnation in the fire of Hell. In reality, only God can save you from Hell; religion can't save you, you cannot earn the right to exist outside of the fire of Hell and you cannot justify your existence outside of the fire of Hell be telling yourself that you are really not bad enough to deserve capital punishment.

wisdumb(77) Disputed
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I feel like you want people to go to Hell. I bet you would enjoy being the guy who pulls the switch on the electric chair after reading a quote from the bible.

NowASaint(1380) Clarified
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You are the one who said you want to be in Hell with me. It seems that you are the one who wants people to burn in Hell forever. I know how you can be forgiven and have eternal life, I know I am forgiven and I know I am on my way to Heaven and am saved from Hell. I want you to know the same for yourself but you are fighting against your own forgiveness, you are trying to justify yourself which is an impossibility.

If you are a murderer, convicted with no challenge of capital murder, it would not bother me in the least to quote to you some Bible passages telling you how you can be forgiven by God and saved and go to Heaven before I pull the lever to end your time in the electric chair. If you don't care enough about yourself to seek and know God's forgiveness which He offers you, then you will wake up in Hell.

Really you are in the electric chair now, awaiting execution. The only person wanting that lever to be pulled is you with your chip on your shoulders and if you keep asking for it God is going to knock that chip off of your shoulders and let you go to Hell.

Depends on how safe and rational the religion is.

Since you are probably talking about this site, Christianity is one of the most unsafe and irrational ones.

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How many times does it need to be brought to the attention of Leftist ? The Religion of Islam blinds people and opens their mind to the terrorist nature of the religion but yet you have the Leftist support a religion they really cannot understand.

valeecarri(52) Disputed
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why exactly do you think that all Muslims are terrorists (please no third parties i want to read outlaw60 opinion not yours)

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You'll just recieve a copy pasted text from some "I love america" website.

outlaw60(15368) Clarified
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A Complete List of Radical Islamic Terror Attacks on U.S. Soil Under Obama

Below is a list of the major, verifiable radical Islamic terror attacks "successfully planned and executed" on U.S. soil since Obama first took office in 2009

Little Rock, Arkansas, June 1, 2009. Abdulhakim Mujahid Muhammad shot and murdered one soldier, Army Pvt. William Andrew Long, and injured another, Pvt. Quinton Ezeagwula, at a military recruiting station in Little Rock. Muhammad reportedly converted to Islam in college and was on the FBI's radar after being arrested in Yemen–a hotbed of radical Islamic terrorism–for using a Somali passport, even though he was a U.S. citizen. In a note to an Arkansas judge, Muhammad claimed to be a member of al-Qaeda in the Arab Peninsula, the terror group's Yemen chapter.

Fort Hood, Texas, November 5, 2009. Major Nidal Malik Hasan shot up a military base in Fort Hood and murdered 14 people. Hasan was in contact with al-Qaeda terrorist Anwar al-Awlaki prior to the attack and shouted "Allahu Akbar!" as he fired upon the soldiers on the Fort Hood base. After being sentenced to death, Hasan requested to join ISIS while on death row. It took six years for Obama to acknowledge the shooting as a terror attack instead of "workplace violence."

Boston, Massachusetts, April 15, 2013. Tamerlan and Dhozkar Tsarnaev set off two bombs at the 2013 Boston marathon, killing three and injuring over 260 people. The Tsarnaev brothers later shot and murdered Massachusetts Institute of Technology police officer Sean Collier. The Tsarnaev brothers were self-radicalized through online jihadist propaganda and through a mosque with ties to al-Qaeda.

Moore, Oklahoma, September 24, 2014. Alton Nolen beheaded a woman, Colleen Huff, at a Vaughan Foods plant and stabbed and injured another person. While Nolen's motives are unclear, he appears to have been another radicalized Muslim who was obsessed with beheadings.

Queens, New York, October 23, 2014. Zale Thompson, another self-radicalized Muslim, injured two police officers with a hatchet before being shot dead by other cops. Thompson reportedly indoctrinated himself with ISIS, al-Qaeda and al-Shabab–a Somali jihadist terror group–websites and was a lone wolf attacker.

Brooklyn, New York, December 20, 2014. Ismaayil Brinsley shot and murdered two police officers execution-style and his Facebook page featured jihadist postings and had ties to a terror-linked mosque.

Garland, Texas, May 3, 2015. Two gunmen shot up the Curtis Culwell Center in Garland, where a Mohammed cartoon contest was taking place, and were killed by a police officer. ISIS claimed responsibility for the attack.

Chattanooga, Tennessee, July 16, 2015. Muhammad Youssef Abdulazeez shot and killed four Marines and a sailor at a military base in Chattanooga and was believed to have been inspired by ISIS.

San Bernardino, California, December 14, 2015. Two radical Islamists, Syed Farook and Tashfeen Malik, shot and murdered 14 people and injured 22 others at an office holiday party.

Orlando, Florida, June 12, 2016. Omar Mateen, 29, opened fire at a gay nightclub, killing 49 and injuring 53. The FBI investigated Mateen twice before his rampage, but did not take any substantive action. Officials believe Mateen was self-radicalized but he pledged fealty to ISIS leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi before his death. "The real muslims will never accept the filthy ways of the west," Mateen posted on his Facebook page after committing his heinous act at Pulse nightclub. "I pledge my alliance to (ISIS leader) abu bakr al Baghdadi..may Allah accept me," he wrote.

St. Cloud, Minnesota, September 17, 2016. Dahir Ahmed Adan, a 20-year-old Somali refugee, began hacking at people with a steak knife at a Minnesota mall, injuring nine people before he was shot dead by off-duty police officer Jason Falconer. The FBI said numerous witnesses heard Adan yelling "Allahu akbar!" and "Islam! Islam!" during the rampage. He also asked potential victims if they were Muslims before inflicting wounds in their heads, necks, and chests. The FBI believe he had recently become self-radicalized. (As the Daily Wire highlighted, the Minneapolis Star Tribune attempted to blame "anti-Muslim tensions" for his murderous actions.)

New York City/New Jersey, September 17, 2016. Ahmad Khan Rahami, a 28-year-old naturalized citizen from Afghanistan, set off multiple bombs in New York and New Jersey. In Chelsea, his bomb resulted in the injury of over 30 people. Rahami wrote in his journal that he was connected to "terrorist leaders," and appears to have been heavily influenced by Sheikh Anwar, Anwar al-Awlaki, Nidal Hassan, and Osama bin Laden. "I pray to the beautiful wise ALLAH, [d]o not take JIHAD away from me," Rahami wrote. "You [USA Government] continue your [unintelligible] slaught[er]" against the holy warriors, "be it Afghanistan, Iraq, Sham [Syria], Palestine ... "

Columbus, Ohio, November 28, 2016. Abdul Razak Ali Artan, an ISIS-inspired 20-year-old Somali refugee who had been granted permanent legal residence in 2014 after living in Pakistan for 7 years, attempted to run over his fellow Ohio State students on campus. After his car was stopped by a barrier, he got out of the vehicle and began hacking at people with a butcher knife before being shot dead by a campus police officer. He injured 11 people, one critically. ISIS took credit for the attack, describing Artan as their "soldier." Just three minutes before his rampage, Artan posted a warning to America on Facebook that the "lone wolf attacks" will continue until America "give[s] peace to the Muslims." He also praised deceased al-Qaeda cleric Anwar Al-Awlaki as a "hero."

You want to say Muslims aren't terrorist ?

valakm(8) Disputed
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I'm an athiest, and I have read the Quran. I completely disagree with what you said about it opening minds to terrorism, that is absolute bs sorry. Islam actually focuses on peace and equality. It's well known now that "muslim terrorists" didn't really sprout more from islamic countries than America itself, referring to politics or other circumstances that just tend to make Islam look bad infront of the world, and because unfortunantely Western media is a lot more progressive and developed, it was an easy task.

outlaw60(15368) Disputed
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Muslims are terrorist if you don't believe that look at London ! Are you going to avoid reality ?

Wilted(5) Disputed
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I don't think that it is the Quran alone that opens minds to terrorism, any more than the Bible does for that matter. It is the faith itself and how that faith interprets the Quran that must be held accountable. People who maintain raconian principals and cultures are to blame for radical terrorist tendencies and the Quran is used as a pillar.