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Debate Score:18
Arguments:21
Total Votes:21
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Does the existence of nationalism mean the existence of terrorism?


It does

Side Score: 6
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It doesn't

Side Score: 12
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Does the existence of sin mean the existence of dying?....................

Side: It does
Mariel33(456) Clarified
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Can you explain a bit clearer what you mean by this? I accept this as your own form of expression, but I need you to elaborate on what you actually mean.

Side: It does
Saintnow(3684) Disputed
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Thanks for asking, but the idea is that people like yourself will try to think about reality. You have to do some elaborating for yourself. I would like to see your elaboration on the question.

The answer to the question I asked is "yes", but if you don't reach that conclusion on your own what's the point of me elaborating on it?

Side: It doesn't

In some cases yes, such as in Northern Ireland. The Irish Nationalists of the I.R.A, caused thousands of deaths over many decades and are no further on with their political agenda than they were all those years ago. Other nations have to endure the deadly actions of psychopathic nationalists who feel, like the I.R.A, that they have a right to murder and maim innocent men, women, children and babies as well as causing destruction to further their nationalistic aims. Nationalism should not be confused with passive patriotism which is to be regarded as an admirable character trait and a genuine love for one's country.

Side: It does
Jace(5222) Disputed Banned
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Passive patriotism is still nationalism, by definition; it just isn't fanatical or extreme nationalism.

Side: It doesn't
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Because the existence of the nation and of nationalism means the existence of terrorism, the nation and nationalism shouldn't exist anywhere on the planet.

Side: It does
Jace(5222) Disputed Banned
1 point

This assumes (1)that nationalism is inherent to the nation; (2) that the harm of terrorism outweighs the benefits of the nation; and (3) that human caused terror is unique to the nation and would not be present in a state of anarchy as well.

Side: It doesn't
Mariel33(456) Clarified
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On the account of 1, are you saying that the existence of the nation can totally exist without nationalism? As for 2, different people have different values and beliefs - I'm taking the absolute hardline stance that the existence of terrorism is unto itself enough cause to negate the existence of any nation.

As for 3, I can't disagree. The nation is one extreme, anarchy is the opposite extreme.

Side: It does
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Does the existence of sin mean the existence of dying?....................

Side: It doesn't
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Terrorism doesn't have to follow from nationalism. It does in our current times, but it may be possible at some point for every country and groups within that country to get along. In the very distant future I would bet.

Side: It doesn't