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True I'm American
Debate Score:256
Arguments:124
Total Votes:323
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I'm American

Side Score: 120
5 points

True they do need to be fairly clever to pull off having multiple accounts with multiple personalities.

Side: True
2 points

And Americans tend to randomly accuse people for doing such things for no reason - I suppose that explains their utter genius

Side: True
3 points

And Americans tend to randomly accuse people for doing such things for no reason - I suppose that explains their utter genius

Brits seem to do the same as you say americans do except about whole ethnicities... ;)

Side: True
Cuaroc(8829) Disputed
2 points

oh really Mic? care to explain

http://www.createdebate.com/user/points/PresChaffy

http://www.createdebate.com/user/points/Chaffy

http://www.createdebate.com/user/points/ MrsHellno

all 3 accounts that are said to be yours down-voting arguments on your debate out of the blue for no reason great way to irrefutably prove they are your accounts.

Side: I'm American
lupusFati(790) Disputed
1 point

And Brits tend to create debates with a loaded question so that they look better than us no matter what.

You lost the war. Get over it.

Side: I'm American
4 points

I only posted over here because I'm English but I've gotta say this is a pretty dumb debate, English people are no cleverer than Americans and vice versa and getting into a pissing contest by comparing inventions and discoveries is laughable. Both countries have brought good and bad stuff to the world, yes the Americans invented Rock N Roll great I love it but the English invented Heavy Metal equally great. The Americans invented better ways to kill other people that is not something to be proud of but to say American troops are better than English is wrong, durung Desert Storm more soldiers were killed by American "friendly fire" than by the other side and now American special forces are trained by and have adopted SAS training methods because the American powers that be wanted their men trained by the best soldiers in the World and thought the SAS were the guys for the job.

So one nation isn't better than the other they both have strengths and weaknesses, the only thing that posting in this debate saying my countries better than yours proves is that both countries have their fair share of insular dumbarses.

Side: True
4 points

Oxford is known as the best collage ever, and they're a lot wiser since they've been here forever

Side: True
3 points

Are English people more clever than American people?

.

Side: True
3 points

Well, their humor certainly is more clever.

Side: True
2 points

In England we have less gun crime, less obesity, less malefactors in general. However in America there are floods of these things. Seemingly, their education system is not as good as ours either.

Supporting Evidence: English people have higher IQs than Americans (www.photius.com)
Side: True
2 points

Are you keeping up with the news on the GCSE's? http://www.guardian.co.uk/education/2013/feb/07/gove-gcse-reforms-from-2015

I don't like it.

Side: True
1 point

I don't like the idea of no coursework either but it will still be the superior system

Side: True
CrapWeasel(537) Disputed
1 point

Take away the 5 biggest liberal cities and we beat you in all above categories by far.

Side: I'm American
2 points

We can speak english better.

Side: True
AoKMiKeY(31) Disputed
2 points

"We can speak english better"? seeing as you aren't able to say that sentence with out using correct grammar... I beg to differ...

Side: I'm American
Axmeister(4322) Disputed
2 points

Please explain my apparent failure to use appropriate grammar.

Side: True
1 point

That's definitely true

Side: True
2 points

I'm only choosing this side because I'm not American. I think they're as dumb/clever as each other, personally.

Side: True
2 points

English people are sexy. ;)

Side: True
Micmacmoc(2260) Clarified
2 points

Yes we are ;)

Side: True
2 points

Indeed. ;)

Side: True
1 point

Show me one. Just one. I've been waiting my whole life. Upon returning from the UK I did an extensive pornography search for English girls and it turns out even their porn stars are janky. I've pretty much lost hope for beautiful English women, but I'd love to be proven wrong.

Side: I'm American
Sitara(11080) Disputed
2 points

I met a very sexy Englishman and I so wanted to tap him. ;)

Side: True
11 points

Well seeing as how the grammar in that title is absolutely atrocious I'm going to say no.

Side: I'm American
Micmacmoc(2260) Clarified
2 points

I didn't notice how bad the grammar in that title was - care to elaborate?

Side: True
warrior(1854) Clarified
3 points

"English people are clever than Americans" I believe you mean

"English people are more clever than Americans" May history mark this day as the first time an American corrected the grammar of a Brit. Irony

Side: True
Jungelson(3959) Disputed
2 points

It would have sounded better if you put a comma after the 'atrocious' but I suppose it's not that bad. Besides, you can't generalise. It's wrong to assume all English people are cleverer, but also wrong to assume that as one person made a mistake in their debate title, all English people are imbeciles!

Side: True
Elvira(3446) Disputed
1 point

Cleverer is a word, although it sounds terrible. I would have opted for 'more intelligent'.

Side: True
TheAshman(2299) Disputed
0 points

Even if the grammar in the title is bad, your spelling in nearly all your debates is atrocious and I don't just mean the difference between American and English spellings.

Side: True
warrior(1854) Disputed
2 points

Well I honestly wouldn't know. You see dyslexia makes it rather difficult to tell correct form incorrect spelling.

Side: I'm American
Sitara(11080) Disputed
0 points

The English language came from England. That is why is is called English.

Side: True
warrior(1854) Disputed
2 points

Yeah no kidding. Anymore useless unrelated bits of information you want to toss my way?

Side: I'm American
Scout143(652) Banned
6 points

Yeah, congrats on the botched up grammar. However, Americans invented the airplane, better rifles and guns, we are richer than you. We also kicked Britain's but twice, but we're allies now. We invented rock-n-roll and country. We have more millionaires and billionaires. We helped you guys out in WW1 and WW2 (plus the French). We made basketball, baseball, and American Football. We invented Coca-Cola, Pepsi, and Dr. Pepper. We have a bigger and better army, navy, and Air Force. You did invent Penicilian and The Beatles, which is a plus.

So far, I would say we have you guys.

Side: I'm American
Elvira(3446) Clarified
5 points

Look up 'list of British inventions' on Wikipedia. We invented chocolate bars and pencils.

Checkmate.

Side: True
Micmacmoc(2260) Disputed
4 points

You would like a competition for who invented the most? We did.

"We kicked Britain's butt twice"

When you fought for freedom we were coincidentally fighting a few other battles at the same time - so you were really going for a fair fight there. I don't remember the other time, but when we took control of you it was utter domination.

"We have more millionaires and billionaires"

You also have millions more in poverty.

"We helped you guys out in WW1 and WW2"

Yes, and we are now forced to help you economically every single day. You are in so much debt (about 17 trillion) that you now have your own debt clock. You didn't really help us out, anyway - your methods were immoral and unjustified, especially in the use of nuclear weapons at Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

"We made basketball, baseball and American football"

The person who made basketball was actually originially Canadian, not American. As for the others, they are only played in America and baseball has a strong history and reputation for being extremely corrupt.

"We have you guys"

America is the most hated country on the planet. In what ways apart from military strength (which has gained you more hate because of how unorthodox it is), do you have any bonus over us?

Side: True
AREKKUSU(275) Clarified
2 points

I don't believe the bombings at Hiroshima or Nagasaki were unjustified or immoral, although I do think that amaricans' (And the human race in general for that matter) are immoral. The bombings set a early end to that war, and it saved more lives than it would have killed, on both sides. And even more to 'justify it', we warned the Japanese before hand. The Japanese are stubborn, and I personally agree with our decision, although it is a 'sad' happening in history.

Side: True
1 point

You would like a competition for who invented the most? We did.

Well I should damn well hope so. You are over 700 years older than us. If you hadn't invented more stuff in that period of time, you should be ashamed.

fighting a few other battles at the same time - so you were really going for a fair fight there

You mean a smart fight? Allowing yourself to be drawn into conflict on several fronts is poor military strategy; similarly, forcing your enemy to expend their resources on multiple fronts is good military strategy.

I don't remember the other time, but when we took control of you it was utter domination.

And how did that work our for you?

Not well, long term, obviously.

Which is kind of surprising, given that you boasted having an empire so large the sun never set on it, to be eventually bested by a bunch of upstart hicks in colonies half the world away.

You also have millions more in poverty.

Hur dur man that's why we have more millionaires and billionaires.

Yes, and we are now forced to help you economically every single day. You are in so much debt (about 17 trillion) that you now have your own debt clock

Well yes. That's what friends do. Look out for one another. You were getting the shit kicked out of you by some Germans, and we helped. We're broke as fuck, you help us.

You didn't really help us out, anyway - your methods were immoral and unjustified

Yes, straight giving away money and resources to an ally in need was very, very immoral. We ought never do that again. Fighting alongside British troops to reclaim Europe was completely unjustified. We should never do anything like that ever again.

America is the most hated country on the planet.

As is evident from this conversation, we have a lot of haters.

So, why do you maintain a intense, passionate, time/energy-consuming dislike of my country?

In what ways apart from military strength (which has gained you more hate because of how unorthodox it is), do you have any bonus over us?

Much, much sexier women. With better teeth.

Side: I'm American
CrapWeasel(537) Disputed
1 point

The person who made basketball was actually originially Canadian, not American

It was James Naismith living in Kansas.

Side: I'm American

That pretty well sums it up correctly and concisely.----------------------

Side: I'm American
Jungelson(3959) Disputed
3 points

That should be spelled, 'butt', given you're so uptight about your grammar. Oh well sorry, I forgot, where would we be now without American Football, and baseball...... And obviously having a larger army is a sign of intelligence. No inventing the lightbulb, television, photography, trains, cars e.t.c. Obviously all are of no relation to a countries success.... Of course not! Any imbecile can come up with a working combustion engine, or work out how to project images on to a screen, whether in the cinema or in your own home. Any cretin can invent a device enabling you to talk to someone on the other side of the world, e.g. A telephone. I'm not going against the Americans, I don;t think nay one people are more intelligent, I just think it's ridiculous trying to one-better each other. By the way, the above was " giving you a taste of your own medicine" after your little rant about all of Americas inventions. Oh, ad I forgot the computer, Newtons laws, Telescopes, and possible the biggest one of them all.. Something you may have heard of that the British founded... America :)

But as I was saying, you have your things and we have ours. We'll never know who's best. And don't mention anything to do with the moon landings, we all know you used Russian technology and Nazi rocket scientists to help you!

Side: True
Axmeister(4322) Disputed
3 points

First of all, I would like to ask MicMacMoc to unban this person so he can reply to my argument.

"Yeah, congrats on the botched up grammar. "

You americans can't even spell basic words such as colour.

"However, Americans invented the airplane, better rifles and guns"

Britain has invented a whole lot more. A statistic I heard floating around was that 80% of the worlds inventions have British origin.

"We also kicked Britain's but twice, but we're allies now."

I'm sure you're talking about your revolution and the war of 1812.

In the American rebellion you would not have won without the support and assistance of France and Spain, you also received an alliance from the Dutch.

In the War of 1812, Britain burned down the American capital. I would hardly call that a victory for the Americans.

"We invented rock-n-roll and country."

I care little about that style of music, but I'm sure that the Beatles were rather influential in it.

"We have more millionaires and billionaires. "

Because your money is worth less and you have more inequality.

"We helped you guys out in WW1 and WW2 (plus the French). "

We fought WWI and WWII you just turned up when we started to win. The only charging the americans ever did was charging us for lend lease, talk about war profiteering.

"We made basketball, baseball, and American Football. "

Baseball was in fact invented by the British.

We invented Football, Rugby, Cricket, Tennis, Boxing, Ice Hockey, Darts, Table-Tennis, Snooker, Ping Pong, Bowls, Field Hockey, Netball, Rounders, Horseracing, Polo and a lot more.

Not only have we invented these sports but we have successfully exported them to other countries in the world. While you may call your baseball championship the 'world series' you americans are the only ones who play.

Britain also formatted the modern Olympics, Paralympics and many other sporting events.

"We invented Coca-Cola, Pepsi, and Dr. Pepper."

Nice stuff to rot the teeth. Here are a few examples of British foodstuff inventions:

Bangers and mash

Black pudding

Balti

Brown Sauce (HP Sauce)

Bubble and squeak

Cheddar cheese

Cornish pasty

Cottage pie

Cumberland sausage

Eccles cake

English mustard

Fish and chips

Full English breakfast

Gravy

Haggis

Ice cream

Jellied eels

Kendal mint cake

Lancashire hotpot

Lasagne

Lincolnshire sausage

Pancake

Parkin

Pasty

Piccalilli

Pork pie

Sausage roll

Sandwich

Scotch egg

Scouse

Shepherd's pie

Carbonated water, major and defining component of soft drinks

Sparkling wine

Spotted Dick

Steak and kidney pie

Sunday roast

Toad in the hole

Worcestershire sauce

Yorkshire Pudding

". We have a bigger and better army, navy, and Air Force."

And yet seem incapable of winning wars on your own.

When Britain was at it's height we were unchallengable the only reason we lost our Empire was because we had to bear the full cost of fighting both world wars.

Britain has also managed to invade 90% of all countries in the world and achievement which America cannot match.

"So far, I would say we have you guys."

Ha!

Side: True
Quocalimar(6470) Clarified
2 points

Oh wow haggis is British? I thought it was scottish. Also no offense but I don't feel that's something to brag about, I mean it's comparable to American hot dogs. If you like it, like it quietly don't declare it, especially after people learn how it's made.

Side: True
2 points

"We invented Coca-Cola, Pepsi, and Dr. Pepper."

Nice stuff to rot the teeth. Here are a few examples of British foodstuff inventions:

While I have no idea why anyone would be proud of inventing soda, I'm not sure if you should bring up English food in a dick showing competition like this one.

England has a worldwide reputation for having poor, bland, unpalatable food, a generalization I completely agree with after visiting the country. Literally the only good food I had over there was good Indian food. Not any better than what I could find in CA, but still good. But every time I ordered some English cuisine I had a hard time finishing my plate.

The global community views English food along the same lines they view hospital or airline food. It's never going to be delicious, but at least it's a meal... it's sustenance.

Side: I'm American
TheAshman(2299) Disputed
1 point

The one thing I have to disagree with is your comment on music, The Beatles were originally a Rock N Roll band heavily influenced by American music they then evolved into the band that we all know.

Side: I'm American
5 points

What are all your IQ's then? And I'm not going to attempt to be any grammar Nazi, so there will be no point in correcting me, it would be pointless towards your argument.

Side: I'm American
3 points

I have never found out my IQ because I lack the attention span and motivation to complete an IQ test. :)

Side: True
Jungelson(3959) Disputed
1 point

Oh well. I know mine, but I'm not that much of an arrogant douche to wave it in all your faces ( not that it's particularly good...!)

Side: I'm American
5 points

If you drop an American child in Britain that child will grow up witty, if you drop a British kid in America that child will not grow up as witty. It's only because of the difference in diction and word choice. For example in baltimore we call soda "soda" while up further in new york they call it "pop". That does not make them more or less anything it just means they grew up around different words.

I'm admitting that british people often sound clever and witty, but I believe that that is not telling of their society as a whole actually being so.

Side: I'm American
Micmacmoc(2260) Disputed
1 point

"If you drop an American child in Britain that child will grow up witty, if you drop a British kid in America that child will not grow up as witty"

How on Earth did you ever reach that conclusion? There is a strong correlation between intelligent people and comedians - comedians tend to be very intelligent and to be able to crack those quick jokes and have the power to make people laugh you understandably have to be. And because people in the UK have higher IQs than people in America on average, it is actually more probable that people in England who go to America are going to be more witty - as long as the American culture doesn't 'dumb them down' too much.

Side: True
4 points

actually there are more Atheists in America then Britain so no.

Supporting Evidence: Atheism by Country. (chartsbin.com)
Side: I'm American
Axmeister(4322) Disputed
4 points

And yet they seem to produce citizens with such blind prejudice such as yourself. I think you'll find that prejudice lacks intelligence.

Side: True
Doherty95(299) Disputed
1 point

You have a population almost 5 times that of the UK, so that would be no surprise. If you were to look at the percentage of the population who are atheist, the UK would be higher.

Side: True
1 point

I'm not going to comment on the "clever" argument since that depends entirely on the person. Both places offer good education. And Americans and the English (used instead of British by the ignorant although they're entirely different --->"British" irks me) both have their charm. But since I'm American, of course I'm going to defend us in regards of what makes us so amazing as a nation.

1. We have a vast amount of culture. Our past of slavery and hypocrisy isn't something we should be proud of but the diversity of our nation through immigration and whatnot! Wow!

2. We invented blues, and rock n roll

3. We invented refrigerators

4. We invented potato chips

5. We invented the radio.

6. We invented the flashlight

7. We invented video games

8. We invented sunglasses

9. We invented the microwave

10. We invented internet

11. We invented cable television

12. We invented toilet paper

13. We invented frozen dinners

14. We invented ipods and apple

15. We invented BBQ

16. Delivery Pizza

You were saying?

Side: I'm American
Micmacmoc(2260) Disputed
1 point

"I'm not going to comment on the "clever" argument since that depends entirely on the person"

Yet in England we have a higher average IQ than in America.

"Amazing as a nation"

Other than your military (which many disapprove of) there is not a lot of notable American qualities other than making everyone else look good.

"Vast amount of culture"

Globalisation has diminished your culture to a collection of fast-food places, whereas in England we have the beautifully psychedelic combination of amazing literature and fascinating history

"Our past slavery isn't something we should be proud of"

No, it really isn't. But the discimination posed by the slavery indicates less intelligence.

"We invented blues, rock and roll"

We invented the beatles, which sparked a lot of this and made heavy metal - which can be considered equally as good is not better.

"We invented refrigerators"

Obviously - that accounts for the most obese country on the planet.

"We invented potato chips"

That's not really an achievement.

"We invented the Internet"

No you didn't, we did.

"You were saying?"

Sorry for plagiarising axmeister, but here is just some food that we invented - and I think this far exceeds America:

Bangers and mash

Black pudding

Balti

Brown Sauce (HP Sauce)

Bubble and squeak

Cheddar cheese

Cornish pasty

Cottage pie

Cumberland sausage

Eccles cake

English mustard

Fish and chips

Full English breakfast

Gravy

Haggis

Ice cream

Jellied eels

Kendal mint cake

Lancashire hotpot

Lasagne

Lincolnshire sausage

Pancake

Parkin

Pasty

Piccalilli

Pork pie

Sausage roll

Sandwich

Scotch egg

Scouse

Shepherd's pie

Carbonated water, major and defining component of soft drinks

Sparkling wine

Spotted Dick

Steak and kidney pie

Sunday roast

Toad in the hole

Worcestershire sauce

There are also some British inventions here and here.

YOU WERE SAYING?

Side: True
Kittiana(154) Clarified
1 point

"In England we have a higher average IQ than in America."

Where's that statistic.

?

"That accounts for the most obese country in the world."

Actually, I'll have you know the American Samoa is. 95% of their population is obese.

"That's not really an achievement."

And black pudding, jellied eel, and pork pie are?!?!?! Lol. Nobody knows what those things are, let alone eat it. You eat potato chips or CRISPS do you not? Stop pretending you don't.

"But the discrimination posed by slavery indicates less intelligence."

HUMANS discriminate, not just us. I don't know any country that doesn't hold a certain amount or racism as a whole.

Side: True
Cuaroc(8829) Disputed
1 point

obese country on the planet.

That just shows we have the best food.

Side: I'm American
lupusFati(790) Disputed
1 point

How quickly the English forget their own slavery roots, eheh.

Side: I'm American
1 point

I'm not American, but i totally disagree with this. .

Side: I'm American
1 point

At least america doesn't have the need to have a world wide empire in order to compensate for being a small island country.

Side: I'm American
1 point

No, ethnicity doesn't favor genetic intelligence. It's environmentally impacted only reason why the stereo type of Asians being more intelligent is because they go to school twice a day and for longer amounts of time. That goes for English people they're environmentally drilled to thrive for more.

"I'm not american, i'm a citizen of earth."

Side: I'm American
1 point

More clever* ................................................. -.-

Side: I'm American
1 point

No they are not. America has accomplished more in just 235 years than the entire world family has done in

All of its existence. Which nation profits more from the worlds resources england...or the united states? Where do more people come? Where do more people do business? The queen owns more but her nation does not profit from what she owns. "She" may be clever but her nation is not.

Side: I'm American

Admittedly anecdotal but...

In none of my travels have I seen anything to suggest that people are notably more or less intelligent in varying countries. Nothing I've seen suggests that there is a notably lower or higher rate of intelligent vs. unintelligent individuals in society either.

I believe the perception of stupidity in America is predominately due to our culture and economic structure, which serve to give our less intelligent individuals a much louder voice and a much larger audience than their peers in other nations. Of course, I can't exactly prove that, though one would think the burden of proof would be on the one claiming the disparity.

Side: I'm American