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Bleep, Blop, bloop, blop, bleep!!! I do not come in no peace aliens from an alien world. Zappity, zap, zap, zap, zaps... "disintegrates prodigee, or MicMacMoc or whoever you are".
all 3 accounts that are said to be yours down-voting arguments on your debate out of the blue for no reason great way to irrefutably prove they are your accounts.
I only posted over here because I'm English but I've gotta say this is a pretty dumb debate, English people are no cleverer than Americans and vice versa and getting into a pissing contest by comparing inventions and discoveries is laughable. Both countries have brought good and bad stuff to the world, yes the Americans invented Rock N Roll great I love it but the English invented Heavy Metal equally great. The Americans invented better ways to kill other people that is not something to be proud of but to say American troops are better than English is wrong, durung Desert Storm more soldiers were killed by American "friendly fire" than by the other side and now American special forces are trained by and have adopted SAS training methods because the American powers that be wanted their men trained by the best soldiers in the World and thought the SAS were the guys for the job.
So one nation isn't better than the other they both have strengths and weaknesses, the only thing that posting in this debate saying my countries better than yours proves is that both countries have their fair share of insular dumbarses.
In England we have less gun crime, less obesity, less malefactors in general. However in America there are floods of these things. Seemingly, their education system is not as good as ours either.
I don't think he will get away with it. This is the second time, and I also support coursework even though I am terrible at it. I prefer exams, they're much easier and less stressy. The compulsory subjects and rejection of the arts as qualification subjects will make people mad too.
"The shadow education secretary, Stephen Twigg, said: "The trouble with this secretary of state is that he thinks he knows the answer to everything, so he digs out the fag packet and comes up with his latest wheeze.""
Show me one. Just one. I've been waiting my whole life. Upon returning from the UK I did an extensive pornography search for English girls and it turns out even their porn stars are janky. I've pretty much lost hope for beautiful English women, but I'd love to be proven wrong.
"English people are clever than Americans"? That would leave out a superlative and it wouldn't make any sense.
"English people are more clever than Americans"
Yes, that alongside English people are cleverer than Americans, makes sense.
"Irony"
The one time that an American thinks they are correct, they turn out to be wrong. That's irony. Why are you falsely accusing me of making such a trivial and junior blunder as this? If you troll my debate one more time you will be banned
It would have sounded better if you put a comma after the 'atrocious' but I suppose it's not that bad. Besides, you can't generalise. It's wrong to assume all English people are cleverer, but also wrong to assume that as one person made a mistake in their debate title, all English people are imbeciles!
Even if the grammar in the title is bad, your spelling in nearly all your debates is atrocious and I don't just mean the difference between American and English spellings.
So this is what you've resorted too dick jokes? My how The minuscule have fallen. And I'm not sure how you expect an argument I mean what I'm I supposed to say no English didn't come from England when it clearly did?
So you are saying that you cannot make a logical argument in response to my assertion of the fact that English came from England, that being the reason why it is called English?
Yeah, congrats on the botched up grammar. However, Americans invented the airplane, better rifles and guns, we are richer than you. We also kicked Britain's but twice, but we're allies now. We invented rock-n-roll and country. We have more millionaires and billionaires. We helped you guys out in WW1 and WW2 (plus the French). We made basketball, baseball, and American Football. We invented Coca-Cola, Pepsi, and Dr. Pepper. We have a bigger and better army, navy, and Air Force. You did invent Penicilian and The Beatles, which is a plus.
You would like a competition for who invented the most? We did.
"We kicked Britain's butt twice"
When you fought for freedom we were coincidentally fighting a few other battles at the same time - so you were really going for a fair fight there. I don't remember the other time, but when we took control of you it was utter domination.
"We have more millionaires and billionaires"
You also have millions more in poverty.
"We helped you guys out in WW1 and WW2"
Yes, and we are now forced to help you economically every single day. You are in so much debt (about 17 trillion) that you now have your own debt clock. You didn't really help us out, anyway - your methods were immoral and unjustified, especially in the use of nuclear weapons at Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
"We made basketball, baseball and American football"
The person who made basketball was actually originially Canadian, not American. As for the others, they are only played in America and baseball has a strong history and reputation for being extremely corrupt.
"We have you guys"
America is the most hated country on the planet. In what ways apart from military strength (which has gained you more hate because of how unorthodox it is), do you have any bonus over us?
I don't believe the bombings at Hiroshima or Nagasaki were unjustified or immoral, although I do think that amaricans' (And the human race in general for that matter) are immoral. The bombings set a early end to that war, and it saved more lives than it would have killed, on both sides. And even more to 'justify it', we warned the Japanese before hand. The Japanese are stubborn, and I personally agree with our decision, although it is a 'sad' happening in history.
You would like a competition for who invented the most? We did.
Well I should damn well hope so. You are over 700 years older than us. If you hadn't invented more stuff in that period of time, you should be ashamed.
fighting a few other battles at the same time - so you were really going for a fair fight there
You mean a smart fight? Allowing yourself to be drawn into conflict on several fronts is poor military strategy; similarly, forcing your enemy to expend their resources on multiple fronts is good military strategy.
I don't remember the other time, but when we took control of you it was utter domination.
And how did that work our for you?
Not well, long term, obviously.
Which is kind of surprising, given that you boasted having an empire so large the sun never set on it, to be eventually bested by a bunch of upstart hicks in colonies half the world away.
You also have millions more in poverty.
Hur dur man that's why we have more millionaires and billionaires.
Yes, and we are now forced to help you economically every single day. You are in so much debt (about 17 trillion) that you now have your own debt clock
Well yes. That's what friends do. Look out for one another. You were getting the shit kicked out of you by some Germans, and we helped. We're broke as fuck, you help us.
You didn't really help us out, anyway - your methods were immoral and unjustified
Yes, straight giving away money and resources to an ally in need was very, very immoral. We ought never do that again. Fighting alongside British troops to reclaim Europe was completely unjustified. We should never do anything like that ever again.
America is the most hated country on the planet.
As is evident from this conversation, we have a lot of haters.
So, why do you maintain a intense, passionate, time/energy-consuming dislike of my country?
In what ways apart from military strength (which has gained you more hate because of how unorthodox it is), do you have any bonus over us?
And plastic boobs that look like they're about to burst, massive, massive unattractive lips.. Although they have slimmer thighs which is a plus :) But again, look at all the other Pro England comments, and you will have an answer to each statement you have put there.
All your celebrities boast the biggest mammarys and half of them have massive lips! Just by looking I can tell not all British girls are fat with crooked teeth!
I'm basing my opinions off personal experience I've had meeting American and English women in social settings.
You're apparently basing your opinion of American women off of episodes of Entertainment Tonight.
And you're right. Not all British girls have bad teeth. It's just a common national trend, like American obesity. Not all American girls are fat, but statistically speaking they are more likely to be fat. The same goes for British dental hygiene.
Of course celebrities are real people, no one's trying to say otherwise. And I don't know what Entertainment Tonight is, I don't watch much American TV..! I'm not sure the exact point of your argument, but I understand what you';re saying completely.
When I'm talking about how attractive English or Americans generally are, I'm not talking about the celebrities from either of those countries. I'm talking about day-to-day men and women in the street. The general populace. Real people, as opposed to people who are so dressed-up, made-up and plastic-surgery-up they hardly resemble human beings.
I'm forming an opinion of British chicks based on British chicks I've met both here and there. Not based off famous British celebrities I saw on TV.
"You are over 700 years older than us. If you hadn't invented more stuff in that period of time, you should be ashamed"
Still, you have about five times more people than we do, so it evens out.
"Poor military strategy"
There was no other alternative - we didn't start those battles.
"Not well long term, obviously"
Well you were a better nation when you were part of the commonwealth.
"Hur dur man that's why we have more millionaires and billionaires"
It is better to have a collection of good people of people who live in the middle of life, than to have some people making millions and others dying on the streets. England is a far less discriminative society and it is far less unfair, with lesser divides.
"Well yes. That's what friends do. Look out for one another. You were getting the shit kicked out of you by some Germans, and we helped. We're broke as fuck, you help us"
So by launching two nuclear bombs on two cities of completely innocent people, we have to pay you on a daily basis so that you can get rid of your 17 trillion pound debt? Is there even that much money on the planet? Don't be unreasonable, Chad.
"Yes, straight giving away money and resources to an ally in need was very, very immoral"
I don't really think that nuclear-bombing two innocent cities of people was what I was talking about, Chad.
"Much, much sexier women. With better teeth"
Not really that much sexier - but definitely a lot fatter than in England.
Still, you have about five times more people than we do, so it evens out.
We haven't always had more people than you. And we didn't for the majority of our existance, which means the majority of your existance, as well, plus 700 years.
There was no other alternative - we didn't start those battles.
Even better military strategy on our part, then; we backed you into a corner you couldn't get out of.
Well you were a better nation when you were part of the commonwealth.
We were a better nation when we were no longer part of the commonwealth.
Wow it's kind of fun to just state my position without any kind of supporting facts or evidence.
It is better to have a collection of good people of people who live in the middle of life, than to have some people making millions and others dying on the streets
Why is it better?
In America you have the potential for greater sucess than in many countries. You can become obscenely rich and play/own the system. It's much more difficult to do this in countries like Denmark, where a garbage man gets paid like a doctor. But we pay for the ability to become obscenely rich by having the potental to be shit broke on the street with no help, government or otherwise. America is a country of high highs and low lows. That's the point.
So by launching two nuclear bombs on two cities of completely innocent people, we have to pay you on a daily basis so that you can get rid of your 17 trillion pound debt? Is there even that much money on the planet? Don't be unreasonable, Chad.
What a moronic misunderstanding.
First of all we dropped bombs, not launched them.
Secondly we were at war with Japan; that means their cities were military targets. Hardly "innocent;" they started the war (by killing innocents), not us.
Thirdly we specifically picked cities with strategic military targets. If we had been trying to kill as many civilians as possible, we would have dropped our bombs into the heart of Tokyo (just as easy) instead of on an army base and military supply depot on some island off the mainland.
Lastly, our actions in the Pacific were the actions of our own war with Japan; the money, supplies, resources, and men we dedicated to your cause were not part of that war with Japan, they were part of your war with Germany. Why the fuck would you owe us anything at all for us bombing Japan or not bombing Japan? It's completely irrelevant to the European part of the war, which is the part we helped you guys out with.
I don't really think that nuclear-bombing two innocent cities of people was what I was talking about, Chad.
Good; it wasn't what I was talking about, either. And, in fact, never happened. I was talking about the aid we gave you to help you keep your country from the Germans.
Not really that much sexier - but definitely a lot fatter than in England.
I've never met an attractive English chick. Never. Never ever. Not here, not there. And then they open their mouths (to speak or to smile) and even if they were attractive the fucked up teeth and the mannish accent completely kill it for me.
I have met a lot of fat English and American chicks, though.
Which makes sense when you consider that America is the fattest country in the world at 30% obese and the UK isn't far behind, taking 3rd with 23%. Which means that (assuming it's euqally men and women) you have 3.5% more chicks that are not obese.
But we have 5x the number of people overall.
And no English chicks are hot, fat or otherwise.
So we still have wayyyyyyy more sexy women than you do, in both numbers and appearance.
Also, some people like the fatness. Not me, for sure, but it happens. Obese isn't necessarily synonymous with unattractive.
"Well I should damn well hope so. You are over 700 years older than us. If you hadn't invented more stuff in that period of time, you should be ashamed."
Yes we are over 1000 years older than you. Which is why I find it surprising that you Americans think you can possibly compare your country to ours.
"You mean a smart fight? Allowing yourself to be drawn into conflict on several fronts is poor military strategy; similarly, forcing your enemy to expend their resources on multiple fronts is good military strategy."
Jumping in on the winning side is also good strategy isn't it? It's what you Americans did in the World Wars anyway.
"Which is kind of surprising, given that you boasted having an empire so large the sun never set on it, to be eventually bested by a bunch of upstart hicks in colonies half the world away."
1) Yes, our Empire was extremely large, it has yet to be overtaken in size, military power, naval power, economic power etc. and yet you Americans have had a centuries worth of technology to try overtake us and you haven't even come close.
2) To claim that the entire British Empire was beaten by America is stupid, while the American revolution was occurring British politicians were arguing whether to bother fighting at all, because the American colonies were so worthless.
3) To call the French, Spanish and Dutch empires a 'bunch of upstart hicks' is a bit of an insult to them, because it was them who really fought the American rebellion. Without their aid the American rebels would have been squashed before they could even acquire a gun.
"Hur dur man that's why we have more millionaires and billionaires."
Well because your money is worth so much less.
"Well yes. That's what friends do. Look out for one another. You were getting the shit kicked out of you by some Germans, and we helped. We're broke as fuck, you help us."
We could handle the Germans quite fine without you and anyway we had Russia to help us. In fact we were helping you by keeping the Germans at war while you used the time to get your chemical industries to overtake theirs.
"Yes, straight giving away money and resources to an ally in need was very, very immoral. "
A few years is not what I call "straight away".
"Fighting alongside British troops to reclaim Europe was completely unjustified. We should never do anything like that ever again."
Well, joining a war when we start to win isn't exactly fair play.
"As is evident from this conversation, we have a lot of haters.
So, why do you maintain a intense, passionate, time/energy-consuming dislike of my country?"
I don't know about Mic, but I despise America because they produce citizens with such a distorted view of history that they can claim statements such as "you boasted having an empire so large the sun never set on it, to be eventually bested by a bunch of upstart hicks in colonies half the world away."
Depends when you want to count England as England, but sure. Thats better for my argument.
Which is why I find it surprising that you Americans think you can possibly compare your country to ours.
Firstly, you'll notice it was an Englishman who made this debate, not an American.
Secondly, the US and the UK are comparable countries. Out of all the nations of the world you'd be hard pressed to find a country more similar. Which, when you consider you've had an extra thousand years to figure your shit out, must be pretty embarrasing for you guys.
Jumping in on the winning side is also good strategy isn't it? It's what you Americans did in the World Wars anyway.
That's not what we were talking about or the war we were talking about. But thanks for again sharing your evident butthurt over our behavior in a European war 70+ years ago.
1) Yes, our Empire was extremely large, it has yet to be overtaken in size, military power, naval power, economic power etc. and yet you Americans have had a centuries worth of technology to try overtake us and you haven't even come close.
As you pointed out, you have a 1000 year jump on us. We shouldn't even have come close, except we have. Do you honestly believe in a modern US vs England war (one on one) you guys would actually win? We spend all our money on our military.
2) To claim that the entire British Empire was beaten by America is stupid, while the American revolution was occurring British politicians were arguing whether to bother fighting at all, because the American colonies were so worthless.
We fought against England for our independence and won. I don't really care if that happened because of our military prowess or because of your governments incompetence, or both; victory is victory.
To call the French, Spanish and Dutch empires a 'bunch of upstart hicks' is a bit of an insult to them
Oh, well, good thing I never did that, then.
We could handle the Germans quite fine without you and anyway we had Russia to help us.
(Un)fortunately, we'll never know if you would have eventually retaken Europe and kept England if the US hadn't participated in the war and aided you throughout, because that's what happened. Anything else is speculation. Which is why I didn't say we won the war for you, because we didn't, I said we helped, because we did, and you seem to be to arrogant and proud to accept even that.
I also said we helped because we are friends, an opinion that's feeling awfully one-way right now.
A few years is not what I call "straight away".
Yay I get to learn you a on a bit of California slang.
I didn't say 'straight away' (quickly) I said 'straight giving away,' 'straight' here meaning clearly, evidently, up-front, obvious. Example: 'she's a straight bitch.'
Also I made that statement in response to Mic saying it was immoral and unjustified for us to help you in WWII. Do you honestly share that opinion?
Well, joining a war when we start to win isn't exactly fair play.
Firstly, fair play? Are you a fucking knight in shining armor? Perhaps you miss the days when armies would convene at a preappointed time and place, break for brunch, line up, shoot at eachother a bit, have dinner, shoot some more, and whichever side with the most developing infections loses and goes home, but war hasn't been about "fair play" for a very, very long time. In fact fairly fighting a war is a sure way to lose a war.
Secondly, it was a European war. We didn't hesitate to engage the Japanese because they actually attacked us on American soil. We got involved in the European side of things because a European Axis power (namely, Germany) declared war on us. After sinking several of the ships we were using to send you supplies, of course. So no, we didn't just keep and eye on the war and hop in when things started looking good; the war came to us.
Because of the holocaust (which according to you, the Europeans had handled) there was a slight moral imperative to get involved, but aside from that it was a European war. Why should we have gotten involved? European countries fighting European countries over European problems.
I don't know about Mic, but I despise America because they produce citizens with such a distorted view of history that they can claim statements such as "you boasted having an empire so large the sun never set on it, to be eventually bested by a bunch of upstart hicks in colonies half the world away."
So you hate us because our school system isn't to your standard? That seems a lot of energy to put into your opinion about the education of a country half a world away.
The only thing I despise England for is it poor gene pool. It's a cool ass country I really wanted to move to until I actually went there and realized it's populated with some of the most unattractive people on Earth. I understand there's nothing you guys can really do about this, though, and I wouldn't find it so bothersome if I didn't desire to sleep with attractive women, so it's a very personal, subjective qualm.
And wider bodies. Much, much wider bodies.
Hahaha a member of the second most obese country in the world making fat jokes to a member of the most obese country in the world. Do something about your own morbid obesity before you start judging others for it.
Besides, as a nation we're only 7% more obese than England. That means roughly 3.5% more obese chicks in the US. But we also have some 250,000,000 more people, half that many women, which overall means we still have wayyyyyyyyy more skinny chicks to choose from than you do.
"Firstly, you'll notice it was an Englishman who made this debate, not an American."
He wouldn't have made such a debate if there weren't the many American articles comparing the U.S to Great Britain.
"Secondly, the US and the UK are comparable countries. Out of all the nations of the world you'd be hard pressed to find a country more similar. Which, when you consider you've had an extra thousand years to figure your shit out, must be pretty embarrasing for you guys."
Considering how you were given everything you required to catch up with us, I'm surprised you think that we had an extra thousands years ahead of you. The U.S did not start off with the same level of technology that the U.K started with, I believe you are forgetting that matter.
"That's not what we were talking about or the war we were talking about. But thanks for again sharing your evident butthurt over our behavior in a European war 70+ years ago."
Many people who experienced those wars are still alive today, I find it rather offensive that you could refer to such a recent conflict as if it happened centuries ago and as though it should just be forgotten, while you may not have seen much of the war in your isolationist USA, over here we actually did some fighting.
"As you pointed out, you have a 1000 year jump on us. We shouldn't even have come close, except we have.
You cannot seem to comprehend the fact that your were given 1000 years worth of technological advancement on a platter as soon as you were created. The only reason you've come close to us is because we had to defeat the empires of Germany, Austria-Hungary, Ottoman, Italy and Japan while you were making profit from us holding back their industries. Sure you may have come and joined in the fight in the closing years but you would not be the economic power you spent the major parts of the war overtaking European industry and profiteering from selling arms and supplies.
"Do you honestly believe in a modern US vs England war (one on one) you guys would actually win?"
Do you honestly believe a young USA could have taken on the British empire (one on one) and you guys actually win?
Anyway, what good was your 'modern military' in Vietnam?
"We spend all our money on our military.""
Hence your trillion dollar debt.
"We fought against England for our independence and won. I don't really care if that happened because of our military prowess or because of your governments incompetence, or both; victory is victory."
Your exaggeration of the war was beyond idiotic and expected of some 3 year old whose had such a nationalist doctrine of history ingrained in their education.
Yes, you may have won the war of independence but you cannot possibly claim that the entire British Empire was "bested by a bunch of upstart hicks in colonies half the world away."
"Oh, well, good thing I never did that, then."
Ah, but you did.
(It's nice to claim something without having to back it up with any sort of evidence whatsoever, isn't it?)
"(Un)fortunately, we'll never know if you would have eventually retaken Europe and kept England if the US hadn't participated in the war and aided you throughout, because that's what happened."
England alone would not have retaken Europe, luckily we had the USSR on our side.
"Anything else is speculation."
Which is why we debate.
"Which is why I didn't say we won the war for you, because we didn't, I said we helped, because we did, and you seem to be to arrogant and proud to accept even that."
I may seem arrogant and proud but I'm personally fed up with Americans claiming that the World Wars were won by them. Pardon me if I take it out on you.
"I also said we helped because we are friends, an opinion that's feeling awfully one-way right now."
You did not grant us help when we needed it.
"Yay I get to learn you a on a bit of California slang.
I didn't say 'straight away' (quickly) I said 'straight giving away,' 'straight' here meaning clearly, evidently, up-front, obvious. Example: 'she's a straight bitch.'"
Either way the whole idea that you 'gave' us anything is ridiculous, you charged us for all your resources and we've only stopped paying you back a few years ago.
"Also I made that statement in response to Mic saying it was immoral and unjustified for us to help you in WWII. Do you honestly share that opinion?"
You just profiteered at our expense and jumped on the band wagon in the final charge, I would also call that immoral and unjustified.
"Firstly, fair play? Are you a fucking knight in shining armor? Perhaps you miss the days when armies would convene at a preappointed time and place, break for brunch, line up, shoot at eachother a bit, have dinner, shoot some more, and whichever side with the most developing infections loses and goes home, but war hasn't been about "fair play" for a very, very long time. In fact fairly fighting a war is a sure way to lose a war."
It appears that these are you special American military tactics and then you wonder why people are claiming your contribution to to WWII was immoral and unjustified.
"Secondly, it was a European war. We didn't hesitate to engage the Japanese because they actually attacked us on American soil. We got involved in the European side of things because a European Axis power (namely, Germany) declared war on us. After sinking several of the ships we were using to send you supplies, of course. "
Let us look at the main cause of the Second World War, the League of Nations (set up by the American President Woodrow Wilson) fails to stop Hitler from taking over minor sections of land, even though Hitler had neither the economic or military strength to take on any sort of conflict. The League of Nations also fails to stop Japanese and Italian expansion, why did the League of Nations fail? because as soon as it was founded there were several territorial disputes of brand new countries created in Eastern Europe whose borders were drafted by American President Woodrow Wilson. There were also several times were the USA actively undermined the League of Nations attempts to prevent the expansion of the empires aforementioned.
You call this a 'European War' yet the USA was deeply involved in its beginning.
"So no, we didn't just keep and eye on the war and hop in when things started looking good; the war came to us."
Hold on, you're changing your story a bit. Earlier on you were saying that the US helped us in the war because "we are friends", now your claiming that it had nothing to do with America and your involvement is solely down to Germany and Japan declaring war on you.
"Because of the holocaust (which according to you, the Europeans had handled) there was a slight moral imperative to get involved, but aside from that it was a European war. Why should we have gotten involved? European countries fighting European countries over European problems."
A Holocaust which few knew the scale of until after the war.
"So you hate us because our school system isn't to your standard? That seems a lot of energy to put into your opinion about the education of a country half a world away."
No I despise your country because it educates you in such a distorted view of history and though your country is far away a lot of your culture and media is shown in Britain.
"The only thing I despise England for is it poor gene pool. It's a cool ass country I really wanted to move to until I actually went there and realized it's populated with some of the most unattractive people on Earth. I understand there's nothing you guys can really do about this, though, and I wouldn't find it so bothersome if I didn't desire to sleep with attractive women, so it's a very personal, subjective qualm."
Thank you for your compliments, I advise that if you don't want to engage in such aggressive arguments over patriotism then you might want to steer clear of the nationalist debates.
"Hahaha a member of the second most obese country in the world making fat jokes to a member of the most obese country in the world. Do something about your own morbid obesity before you start judging others for it.
Besides, as a nation we're only 7% more obese than England. That means roughly 3.5% more obese chicks in the US. But we also have some 250,000,000 more people, half that many women, which overall means we still have wayyyyyyyyy more skinny chicks to choose from than you do."*
You can't use percentages in one part of a comparison and then use real numbers for the second, that's simple evaluation technique.
That should be spelled, 'butt', given you're so uptight about your grammar. Oh well sorry, I forgot, where would we be now without American Football, and baseball...... And obviously having a larger army is a sign of intelligence. No inventing the lightbulb, television, photography, trains, cars e.t.c. Obviously all are of no relation to a countries success.... Of course not! Any imbecile can come up with a working combustion engine, or work out how to project images on to a screen, whether in the cinema or in your own home. Any cretin can invent a device enabling you to talk to someone on the other side of the world, e.g. A telephone. I'm not going against the Americans, I don;t think nay one people are more intelligent, I just think it's ridiculous trying to one-better each other. By the way, the above was " giving you a taste of your own medicine" after your little rant about all of Americas inventions. Oh, ad I forgot the computer, Newtons laws, Telescopes, and possible the biggest one of them all.. Something you may have heard of that the British founded... America :)
But as I was saying, you have your things and we have ours. We'll never know who's best. And don't mention anything to do with the moon landings, we all know you used Russian technology and Nazi rocket scientists to help you!
First of all, I would like to ask MicMacMoc to unban this person so he can reply to my argument.
"Yeah, congrats on the botched up grammar. "
You americans can't even spell basic words such as colour.
"However, Americans invented the airplane, better rifles and guns"
Britain has invented a whole lot more. A statistic I heard floating around was that 80% of the worlds inventions have British origin.
"We also kicked Britain's but twice, but we're allies now."
I'm sure you're talking about your revolution and the war of 1812.
In the American rebellion you would not have won without the support and assistance of France and Spain, you also received an alliance from the Dutch.
In the War of 1812, Britain burned down the American capital. I would hardly call that a victory for the Americans.
"We invented rock-n-roll and country."
I care little about that style of music, but I'm sure that the Beatles were rather influential in it.
"We have more millionaires and billionaires. "
Because your money is worth less and you have more inequality.
"We helped you guys out in WW1 and WW2 (plus the French). "
We fought WWI and WWII you just turned up when we started to win. The only charging the americans ever did was charging us for lend lease, talk about war profiteering.
"We made basketball, baseball, and American Football. "
Baseball was in fact invented by the British.
We invented Football, Rugby, Cricket, Tennis, Boxing, Ice Hockey, Darts, Table-Tennis, Snooker, Ping Pong, Bowls, Field Hockey, Netball, Rounders, Horseracing, Polo and a lot more.
Not only have we invented these sports but we have successfully exported them to other countries in the world. While you may call your baseball championship the 'world series' you americans are the only ones who play.
Britain also formatted the modern Olympics, Paralympics and many other sporting events.
"We invented Coca-Cola, Pepsi, and Dr. Pepper."
Nice stuff to rot the teeth. Here are a few examples of British foodstuff inventions:
Bangers and mash
Black pudding
Balti
Brown Sauce (HP Sauce)
Bubble and squeak
Cheddar cheese
Cornish pasty
Cottage pie
Cumberland sausage
Eccles cake
English mustard
Fish and chips
Full English breakfast
Gravy
Haggis
Ice cream
Jellied eels
Kendal mint cake
Lancashire hotpot
Lasagne
Lincolnshire sausage
Pancake
Parkin
Pasty
Piccalilli
Pork pie
Sausage roll
Sandwich
Scotch egg
Scouse
Shepherd's pie
Carbonated water, major and defining component of soft drinks
Sparkling wine
Spotted Dick
Steak and kidney pie
Sunday roast
Toad in the hole
Worcestershire sauce
Yorkshire Pudding
". We have a bigger and better army, navy, and Air Force."
And yet seem incapable of winning wars on your own.
When Britain was at it's height we were unchallengable the only reason we lost our Empire was because we had to bear the full cost of fighting both world wars.
Britain has also managed to invade 90% of all countries in the world and achievement which America cannot match.
Oh wow haggis is British? I thought it was scottish. Also no offense but I don't feel that's something to brag about, I mean it's comparable to American hot dogs. If you like it, like it quietly don't declare it, especially after people learn how it's made.
Nice stuff to rot the teeth. Here are a few examples of British foodstuff inventions:
While I have no idea why anyone would be proud of inventing soda, I'm not sure if you should bring up English food in a dick showing competition like this one.
England has a worldwide reputation for having poor, bland, unpalatable food, a generalization I completely agree with after visiting the country. Literally the only good food I had over there was good Indian food. Not any better than what I could find in CA, but still good. But every time I ordered some English cuisine I had a hard time finishing my plate.
The global community views English food along the same lines they view hospital or airline food. It's never going to be delicious, but at least it's a meal... it's sustenance.
"While I have no idea why anyone would be proud of inventing soda, I'm not sure if you should bring up English food in a dick showing competition like this one.
England has a worldwide reputation for having poor, bland, unpalatable food, a generalization I completely agree with after visiting the country. Literally the only good food I had over there was good Indian food. Not any better than what I could find in CA, but still good. But every time I ordered some English cuisine I had a hard time finishing my plate.
The global community views English food along the same lines they view hospital or airline food. It's never going to be delicious, but at least it's a meal... it's sustenance."
The global community views USA's food as greasy fatty junk which will kill you if you consume it for too long.
You're confusing American food with fast food. Fast food is greasy, fatty junk regardless of which country you get it in.
Obviously not all of our food is like that or we wouldn't make it past 30.
And fast food and American food both taste better than English food, which is the point I was trying to make. You brought up the health stuff.
Also, if you're going to respond the entirety of my post I feel it's kind of redundant to bold the whole thing. It's implied you're responding to the whole thing unless you bold a specific part you want to address.
"You're confusing American food with fast food. Fast food is greasy, fatty junk regardless of which country you get it in.
Obviously not all of our food is like that or we wouldn't make it past 30."
I'm just saying what the rest of the world thinks of you.
"And fast food and American food both taste better than English food, which is the point I was trying to make. You brought up the health stuff."
The point I was making is that your food may taste better, but that's because is filled with unhealthy components.
"Also, if you're going to respond the entirety of my post I feel it's kind of redundant to bold the whole thing. It's implied you're responding to the whole thing unless you bold a specific part you want to address."
I was responding to the whole thing, your post was just a single point (American food tastes better than English Food) and I wanted to outline that I was addressing the whole post and not part of it.
I'm just saying what the rest of the world thinks of you.
Well then the rest of the world is stupid, because like I said the average life expectancy in the states isn't around 30.
The point I was making is that your food may taste better, but that's because is filled with unhealthy components.
You never made that point, but thanks for making it now.
But it's funny you mention that because I'm an American and the main reason I found English food so disgusting was grease grease grease.
I was responding to the whole thing, your post was just a single point (American food tastes better than English Food) and I wanted to outline that I was addressing the whole post and not part of it.
Which is implied if you dispute or support the post without that clarification.
"Well then the rest of the world is stupid, because like I said the average life expectancy in the states isn't around 30."
I was not the one who brought the statistic of 30 years life expectancy into the debate. All I said was that the rest of the world despises American food due to its habit of being slather with grease or fat.
"You never made that point, but thanks for making it now.
But it's funny you mention that because I'm an American and the main reason I found English food so disgusting was grease grease grease."
That is very interesting, as being an Englishman, I've yet to find anything in our cuisine which is covered with as much grease as your typical american foodstuff.
"Which is implied if you dispute or support the post without that clarification."
Some people need to have such a clarification, otherwise I end up being moaned at for apparently not disputing their entire argument.
All I said was that the rest of the world despises American food due to its habit of being slather with grease or fat.
No, you said the global opinion of American food is that it will kill you if you eat it for too long. Which doesn't make any fucking sense.
That is very interesting, as being an Englishman, I've yet to find anything in our cuisine which is covered with as much grease as your typical american foodstuff.
Maybe we're just better at cooking with it.
Some people need to have such a clarification, otherwise I end up being moaned at for apparently not disputing their entire argument.
"No, you said the global opinion of American food is that it will kill you if you eat it for too long. Which doesn't make any fucking sense."
Does it not make any sense to you? Because it does to your U.S Department of Health & Human Services, they've written an article about the obesity problem in the U.S
America is, however, the largest consumer of fast-food in the world -
We're actually the largest consumer of pretty much everything. So what's your point? This doesn't make American food and fast food the same thing.
and America is the country in which America made the most fast-food.
Um... no shit?
And England is the county in which England made the most fast food.
but I would always choose toad-in-the-hole and other English dishes over a KFC.
And the chef making the shitty hispotal food doesn't think it tastes that bad... you can hardly expect him to. Similarly, you'll deny the bland, unpalatable nature of English food because you are English.
Brilliant. So America is also a very wasteful country
Consuming something and wasting something are not the same thing.
It isn't bland you crazy, uncultured fool
Funny you'd say that in response to a post where I said, "Similarly, you'll deny the bland, unpalatable nature of English food because you are English." You're very predictable.
But my opinion of English food has nothing to do with insanity or lack of culture. It's just after trying English food in England and trying English food in America and making English recipes at home, I've determined English food is bland at best and greasy/gross at worst. This would be like me eating Mexican food in Mexico and in America and making it at home and deciding Mexican food is generally pretty spicy, or something.
The one thing I have to disagree with is your comment on music, The Beatles were originally a Rock N Roll band heavily influenced by American music they then evolved into the band that we all know.
What are all your IQ's then? And I'm not going to attempt to be any grammar Nazi, so there will be no point in correcting me, it would be pointless towards your argument.
If you drop an American child in Britain that child will grow up witty, if you drop a British kid in America that child will not grow up as witty. It's only because of the difference in diction and word choice. For example in baltimore we call soda "soda" while up further in new york they call it "pop". That does not make them more or less anything it just means they grew up around different words.
I'm admitting that british people often sound clever and witty, but I believe that that is not telling of their society as a whole actually being so.
"If you drop an American child in Britain that child will grow up witty, if you drop a British kid in America that child will not grow up as witty"
How on Earth did you ever reach that conclusion? There is a strong correlation between intelligent people and comedians - comedians tend to be very intelligent and to be able to crack those quick jokes and have the power to make people laugh you understandably have to be. And because people in the UK have higher IQs than people in America on average, it is actually more probable that people in England who go to America are going to be more witty - as long as the American culture doesn't 'dumb them down' too much.
You have a population almost 5 times that of the UK, so that would be no surprise. If you were to look at the percentage of the population who are atheist, the UK would be higher.
I'm not going to comment on the "clever" argument since that depends entirely on the person. Both places offer good education. And Americans and the English (used instead of British by the ignorant although they're entirely different --->"British" irks me) both have their charm. But since I'm American, of course I'm going to defend us in regards of what makes us so amazing as a nation.
1. We have a vast amount of culture. Our past of slavery and hypocrisy isn't something we should be proud of but the diversity of our nation through immigration and whatnot! Wow!
"I'm not going to comment on the "clever" argument since that depends entirely on the person"
Yet in England we have a higher average IQ than in America.
"Amazing as a nation"
Other than your military (which many disapprove of) there is not a lot of notable American qualities other than making everyone else look good.
"Vast amount of culture"
Globalisation has diminished your culture to a collection of fast-food places, whereas in England we have the beautifully psychedelic combination of amazing literature and fascinating history
"Our past slavery isn't something we should be proud of"
No, it really isn't. But the discimination posed by the slavery indicates less intelligence.
"We invented blues, rock and roll"
We invented the beatles, which sparked a lot of this and made heavy metal - which can be considered equally as good is not better.
"We invented refrigerators"
Obviously - that accounts for the most obese country on the planet.
"We invented potato chips"
That's not really an achievement.
"We invented the Internet"
No you didn't, we did.
"You were saying?"
Sorry for plagiarising axmeister, but here is just some food that we invented - and I think this far exceeds America:
Bangers and mash
Black pudding
Balti
Brown Sauce (HP Sauce)
Bubble and squeak
Cheddar cheese
Cornish pasty
Cottage pie
Cumberland sausage
Eccles cake
English mustard
Fish and chips
Full English breakfast
Gravy
Haggis
Ice cream
Jellied eels
Kendal mint cake
Lancashire hotpot
Lasagne
Lincolnshire sausage
Pancake
Parkin
Pasty
Piccalilli
Pork pie
Sausage roll
Sandwich
Scotch egg
Scouse
Shepherd's pie
Carbonated water, major and defining component of soft drinks
Sparkling wine
Spotted Dick
Steak and kidney pie
Sunday roast
Toad in the hole
Worcestershire sauce
There are also some British inventions here and here.
"In England we have a higher average IQ than in America."
Where's that statistic.
?
"That accounts for the most obese country in the world."
Actually, I'll have you know the American Samoa is. 95% of their population is obese.
"That's not really an achievement."
And black pudding, jellied eel, and pork pie are?!?!?! Lol. Nobody knows what those things are, let alone eat it. You eat potato chips or CRISPS do you not? Stop pretending you don't.
"But the discrimination posed by slavery indicates less intelligence."
HUMANS discriminate, not just us. I don't know any country that doesn't hold a certain amount or racism as a whole.
And black pudding, jellied eel, and pork pie are?!?!?! Lol. Nobody knows what those things are, let alone eat it. You eat potato chips or CRISPS do you not? Stop pretending you don't.
I have to say chocolate bars again...
...and again...and again...
Because there's nothing better, apart from sushi and ginger beer :)
It shows that you have no means or knowledge of knowing how to resist and handle your food, and contributes to the idea that America is also a very stupid nation
But you admit the English had slaves. Being first is irrelevant.
It's like when two people engage in affairs and the first one to stop cheating on their spouse is the one who 'wins'.
By the way, if we are going by 'who abolished slavery first', the French were technically before the English, even if they did revive it later under Napoleon.
~The More You Know~
But it really doesn't matter who was first. It doesn't make any one country any better than the other as long as both abolished it.
"But you admit the English had slaves. Being first is irrelevant."
Well of course the English had slaves, though they rarely appeared on our shores. I'm now saying that Britain was the first country to abolish slaver whereas the U.S continued to have it decades afterwards.
"It's like when two people engage in affairs and the first one to stop cheating on their spouse is the one who 'wins'."
You should probably read my edits. I made it quite clear that using slavery as your crutch is like using a rotten tree branch to support yourself with. It's not going to work.
Whenever Europe, especially Brits, use the 'slavery argument', they're using it as a crutch. They forget their own history is full of it and lasted much longer than America's.
So yeah. What I'm saying is you can't use slavery to further your arguments since it only ends up making you look foolish.
I find it unlikely that a Brit would forget about our involvement in the slave trade, considering how it is the only part of the British Empire which is set in the national history curriculum.
And while our part in the practice may have been longer, the majority of it was spent in an era of thought in which it was considered morally justified to use slaves, mainly due to Darwinian logic claiming that slaves were a lesser species and therefore animals.
However, when further evidence of the cruelty to slaves came to the majority of the population, the UK was the first to abolish the trade and actively worked against it. However the USA, with first hand experience of the unjustifiable actions towards slaves, still continued with the trade.
No, ethnicity doesn't favor genetic intelligence. It's environmentally impacted only reason why the stereo type of Asians being more intelligent is because they go to school twice a day and for longer amounts of time. That goes for English people they're environmentally drilled to thrive for more.
No they are not. America has accomplished more in just 235 years than the entire world family has done in
All of its existence. Which nation profits more from the worlds resources england...or the united states? Where do more people come? Where do more people do business? The queen owns more but her nation does not profit from what she owns. "She" may be clever but her nation is not.
In none of my travels have I seen anything to suggest that people are notably more or less intelligent in varying countries. Nothing I've seen suggests that there is a notably lower or higher rate of intelligent vs. unintelligent individuals in society either.
I believe the perception of stupidity in America is predominately due to our culture and economic structure, which serve to give our less intelligent individuals a much louder voice and a much larger audience than their peers in other nations. Of course, I can't exactly prove that, though one would think the burden of proof would be on the one claiming the disparity.