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Even if the New World Order is not real...

Why not treat it like it IS real?

This would:

-ensure nothing of the sort ever happens
-make us more united
-stick it to the man
-be fun?
-change our species forever?

well ya!

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listen, noob...

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Well the NWO exist, well I'm not talking about the Aliens and these beast, Maybe they do or not, lets focus on our World.

The fact that Big cooperation's are working close with banks together, with many lobbyist influencing the government decisions.And To go in war in many countries for the reason that some sovereign countries are not responsible in-off and they become a falling state and they commit murdering etc.Which gives the right to a international country to go in intervene against the falling state with a hidden agenda is even more dangerous, which happen many times as history shows us. So for who do you fight for? Your interest? Who are these people?

As well that some people try to unite US and south America as one continent.

The economic sector collapsing , and always innocent people are suffering for they corruption.

And then we have UN commission which is useless as Hans Von Sponeck said it in a different way.

So there is a lot going on in this world. One should be realistic in off to see that some people are pulling the string, and the only way to understand and fight against it is to get these knowledge and study these matters

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I agree, but i personally believe it goes alot farther back than that, i think a group of people is using corporations to enslave us, they dont need money, they have all the money in the world! what they need is our obedience and power

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Indeed I believe the same, only if a person looks at how money is created by debt, and that in some imperal country the money is created by a private bank.. I totaly agree that they control the money, as henry ford stated It is well enough that people of the nation do not understand our banking and monetary system, for if they did I believe there would be a revolution before tomorrow morning!

We need to wake up before its to late, and to share all these information and prevent in a non violent way before they establish the NWO. Otherwise it would come to a point that we need to fight for the freedom in a brutal way.

And I think most of the people obey them already, it is just a matter of changing the policies and to force us to do what we dont want

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There is ample evidence that it does exist, maybe not in the form of reptilian shape shifting aliens, but in the form of isolated hedonistic trillionaires. The information is there so no choice but to acknowledge it. They hope it paralyzes us with fear and we hope it unites and empowers.

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To clarify I believe they (nwo, illuminati, free masons) whatever they are use BS like the alien scam (nazis already made ufos, project paperclip, nazi rat lines.) to scare us. The facts are much simpler, we've been robbed badly and lost most of our civil liberties. Caution with BS on the Internet, the CIA has their fingers in everything (operation mockingbird).

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I wont say much, I think that the conspiracy debunkers are planting seeds of doubt, turning the ignorant against the knowledgeable.

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The NWO is about making the rich richer and the poor poorer.

I think we dont even know half of what NWO is and proabably never will.

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i bet nazi germany was half of a new world order

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It makes sense to me. A New World Order would promote peace on our planet.

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1 point

Why believe something exists when it actually does not? Pointless, really...

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Well what if it DOES exist? Better safe than sorry, right? Would YOU want to experience the rise of a god-knows-how-long world dictatorship complete with world war 3, proof of aliens, and a barren planet.

Now, while i personally do think it would be kind of, kind of, kiiiiind of fun and worthwhile to witness the rise and fall of a world dictatorship, would be pretty amazing, i lied it wouldnt be fun, it would be interesting...

But i dont necessarily want it, but i feel as if 2012 is going to be the "start" of the rise of a world totalitarian government

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Cynical(1948) Disputed
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Well what if it DOES exist? Better safe than sorry, right? Would YOU want to experience the rise of a god-knows-how-long world dictatorship complete with world war 3, proof of aliens, and a barren planet.

I immensely doubt the NWO exists. And if it did, it wouldn't be likely to establish it's self as the controller.

But i dont necessarily want it, but i feel as if 2012 is going to be the "start" of the rise of a world totalitarian government

Eh, like said before, even if the NWO actually exists, it'll gain some MASSIVE opposition, so it won't succeed with its goals.

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Would be nice if all the religious also understood it.

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What is with the newfangled obsession of the New World Order or Illuminati on this site lately?

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Well i for one only learned of the nwo like a year and a half ago, and it tied in with all the beliefs i held at the time

edit well actually, ive "known" about the for a long time, but i didnt "know" what exactly they were

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The NWO is only a imaginary fixation of conspiracy nut jobs. How could it possibly fit into your beliefs?

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Pascal's Wager for the New World Order?

One of the refutations for Pascal's Wager works for this particular case too:

If that is your logic, then shouldn't we do the same for every claim believed to be real? This would include all the gods, the vampires, unicorns, fairies, trolls, zombies, robots taking over the world, Bigfoot, Nessy, aliens abducting people, etc.

We'd be one paranoid species, wasting time worrying and believing that which we have no evidence for.

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we wouldnt have to be paranoid at all, we would just have to be prepared for it mentally

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riahlize(1573) Disputed
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And for what reason?

How do you suggest we prepare for something we have no valid information for?

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if we pretend like it was real some people will ACTUALLY think its real,which would spread widespread fear

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Noob?

How does the word "noob" even relate?

What are you, 12?

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its called having fun

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Why not treat it like it IS real?

There already is something like it, has existed for thousands of years... Yes, that's right, religion!

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