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Experiments don’t show that a given perspective is the only valid one.

Experiments are the ultimate test.
Experiments don’t show that a given perspective is the only valid one.
Experiments just show one way of reaching the truth. 
We cannot exhaust all the possible ways of explaining something.

True.

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So all you people hell bent on science, get off your high horse :)

Side: True.
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You are correct. Why are you stating the obvious? Who is claiming that all is known? Experiments are used to test theories. In pure science everything is still theory. Soooooooo what are you really referring to.

Side: True.
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Oh Davef, you know me too well ;)

Where does life come from?

When does life begin?

Pretty much the stuff people argue about all day everyday here on CD.

That's what I am refering to.

Side: True.
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Generally true.

Also, lack of experiments don't show that any perspective is a valid one either.

Side: True.
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I tend to agree. One person's experiment may not be met with the exact same results as another.

Side: True.
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This is exactly what experiments show.

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Experiments are the most efficient and best way of getting results if their is a better please explain ?

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I am NOT saying there is a better way. I am saying that we must NOT forget that experiments demonstrate only one possible explanation.

Say you have something you don't understand. You come up with an explanation (theory). You come up with a test for your theory. Your experiment shows that the theory works. But there could be a competing theory and an experiment that shows that that theory also works.

The take home message is that once we have a working theory, we shouldn't be complacent and accept it as the ONLY explanation. ;)

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Ok , you say ....The take home message is that once we have a working theory, we shouldn't be complacent and accept it as the ONLY explanation. ;)

I get what you're saying and I'm trying to think of an example of what you're saying , can you give a real life example ?

Side: True.

That's why we have something called 'metaphysics'. That's one of the questions it is supposed to solve.

For what you claim, a specific principle known as Okham's Razor is used.

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I use my own razor, thank you very much ;)

Ok, the expanding universe.

You either assume gravity behaves a certain way or you assume there is dark matter. Either way, there's a lot of assumptions that go into each of those two.

Or...., you assume God did it ;)

By Okham's razor, God is the simplest solution. Hell, there's no math involved! How simple is that ;)

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It is specifically about reducing the number of entities to use in explanations.

The laws would still be the same, as we now have sufficient reason to believe. You're merely adding fluff by that, so it can be removed.

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