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I Don't Like Facts But Mein Spin
Debate Score:48
Arguments:38
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Fact: Trump Has The Lowest Average Approval Rating Of Any President In The Last 80 Years

I Don't Like Facts

Side Score: 14
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But Mein Spin

Side Score: 34
QuapoDog(78) Banned
1 point

Bush Job Approval at 25%, His Lowest Yet

Only 3 points above the lowest in Gallup Poll history

https://news.gallup.com/poll/110980/bush-job-approval-25-lowest-yet.aspx

Side: I Don't Like Facts
redhot(213) Disputed
3 points

Bush Job Approval at 25%, His Lowest Yet

That is correct. Bush's approval at one point sank to 25 percent. It also jumped at one point up to 90 percent (the highest of any president in the last 80 years), but I see you "forgot" to mention that. His average approval rating was 49.4 percent, which puts it 9.4 percent higher than Trump's.

Tell us Bronto. Is the problem that you can't read, or that you simply don't want to talk about the topic?

Side: But Mein Spin
QuapoDog(78) Banned
1 point

Obama Approval Drops to New Low of 40%

Similar to his approval rating for handling the debt ceiling negotiations

https://news.gallup.com/poll/148739/obama-approval-drops-new-low.aspx

Side: I Don't Like Facts
redhot(213) Disputed
2 points

Obama Approval Drops to New Low of 40%

Again, the table in the OP shows that Trump's sank to 35 percent, and that Obama's average approval rating is/was 7.9 percent higher than Trump's.

Can I just go ahead and ban your stupid ass now? Yeah, I think that would be a good idea.

Side: But Mein Spin
QuapoDog(78) Banned
1 point
Side: I Don't Like Facts
redhot(213) Disputed
2 points

President Trump's Job Approval Rating Up to 49%

Again, the table in the OP shows that to be his highest rating, and it is also -- rather amusingly -- the lowest of all the highest presidential ratings for approval in the last 80 years. Even Nixon managed 66 percent at one point.

Out ya go, tool monkey.

Side: But Mein Spin
1 point

Momentary ebbs and flows are quite different than the average for their entire presidencies.

Side: But Mein Spin
4 points

The way he and his group handled the Covid-19 threat in the early beginnings of it would easily justify the low approval ratings. For a solid month, when he SHOULD have been taking it seriously, he and his flunkies on the news kept saying it was a hoax and joking about it. They were more interested in trying to slam Left-wing news than get actual information out there, someone even saying it was very difficult to get the virus. He and the Right wing 'media' spread so much misinformation it's a travesty.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAh4uS4f78o

Side: But Mein Spin
2 points

The way he and his group handled the Covid-19 threat in the early beginnings of it would easily justify the low approval ratings

Or rather, the way they didn't handle it, but rather hoped it would just go away. Completely agree with you.

For a solid month, when he SHOULD have been taking it seriously, he and his flunkies on the news kept saying it was a hoax and joking about it. They were more interested in trying to slam Left-wing news than get actual information out there

And that isn't even the worst of it. The moment it finally dawned on them that this wasn't simply going to disappear they began pointing fingers at the World Health Organisation and Chinese conspiracies to explain their complete lack of coherent action.

Side: But Mein Spin
2 points

No the REAL worst part of it is NONE of them will be held accountable for not only failing to find facts about it but also misleading everyone who believe what they say is God's honest truth.

They used this as an opportunity to fling mud and ended up costing thousands of lives and millions of dollars. There is every possibility we could have flattened the curve but they kept encouraging people to go out to eat, fly and do everything like normal. We ACTUALLY have idiots who still think this all is a liberal conspiracy, my husbands co-worker is a HARDCORE lunatic that fervently believe this.

Side: But Mein Spin
Chinaman(2982) Clarified
1 point

Socialist has the 19 caused you to run out of toilet paper ? The 19 has given you a severe case of the shits and why is that there dummy ? You must have missed that your CNN downplayed the 19 but you cannot think past the nose on your face.

Side: I Don't Like Facts
1 point

With the adolescent nature of the population of most countries the political leader is always blamed on whatever disaster befalls them.

Such is the childish reaction of Joe & Jo Average.

Instead of researching the source of this nightmare disease, i.e., China, they take the easy option and blame the person in front of them.

Side: But Mein Spin
JustIgnoreMe(4334) Clarified
1 point

Isn't blaming China based on the same reasoning?

North American bats also have corona viruses (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2857301/) - would it be the fault of the US if one of those (or any of the myriad other zoonotic viruses) jumped to humans?

Side: I Don't Like Facts
redhot(213) Disputed
0 points

With the adolescent nature of the population of most countries the political leader is always blamed on whatever disaster befalls them.

Instead of researching the source of this nightmare disease, i.e., China

Ahahahahahahahahaha! That is beyond hilarious. First you accuse people of being immature for blaming the guy in charge, then you try to convince them to blame China, despite the fact that their response has been one of the best (if not the best) on the entire planet.

You're an intellectually redundant, overtly racist idiot.

Side: I Don't Like Facts
0 points

In fact, I've just noticed that you've posted in a debate about Trump's average approval rating. Trump has been president for the last four years you dummy. This "nightmare disease" has been a problem for 3-4 months. His spectacular lack of coherent action is just one more nail in his coffin.

Honestly, you do not seem to be living in reality.

Side: I Don't Like Facts
cannonfodder(9) Disputed Banned
0 points

Did you just say China's response has been the best on the planet? You really are full of it. They lied about the virus until they were forced not to, which endangered the entire world. Sure they eventually took action, but they're stilll lying about their numbers. Their numbers could be ten times higher than reported. I don't know about you, but none of that merits any kind of praise. Go ahead. Ban me just like everyone else you disagree with. We all know you can't stand any opposition. You can also ingore these sources and label them hate groups since you can't stand factual information that refutes your stance:)

https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/02/15/coronavirus-xi-jinping-chinas-incompetence-endangered-the-world/

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/ true-china-coronavirus-cases-number-could-be-10-times-official-figure-study

Side: But Mein Spin
0 points

Somewhere in the world, Bronto is figuring out who he needs to talk shit about in order to deflect the topic. Shall I sneer about the government in Venezuela or the welfare system in Finland?

Ah, decisions decisions. Fascism is a tough life.

Side: But Mein Spin