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Flat Lands under the Dome
. No curve by the academic calculations, easy to prove with a zooming camera $600 ~ Priceless exceeds trillions $$$$$$ × over.
. Stars move in a circular pattern overhead with the North pole in the middle marked by the North Star. Polaris which remains in it's central location.
. Science proved we are geocentric with the Plank Satellite. Watch "The Principal" by Robert Sungenous to see data explored.
. The sun overhead is clearly local, and daylight and darkness are warmed and cooled by it's circuit across the tropics and equator.
. Gravity is a hoax that can be better explained by buoyancy.
. Moonlandings are obviously fake!
. And you can't "fall off flat earth" because of massive ice walls around it's circumferance.
. And the scriptures are clear on this if you believe God's Word, you should look into this.
It's flat, a few minutes of commonsense thought is sufficient, but even better, you can show yourself. The globe lie unravels quickly if you are willing to ask questions.
Biblically speaking at least if you won't stand to prove His Word, don't twist it or think wrongly of what it REALLY says. To see Him as He is INCLUDES seeing His Word and creation as it is and as He says it is!
Top BIBLICAL LINGUIST on what the Bible literally says about creation. He is not a flat earther. But he does confirm scripture does say it is a multi-textured plain.
Why are all the observed astronomical bodies round, but not Earth?
If earth isn’t round, then the theory of gravity fails. What compelled Einstein to lie? How does flat earth gravity work?
Why can I see the curvature of the earth when looking out the door (no curved glass) of an airplane?
Most importantly, how and why would the countless thousands of people who would necessarily have undisputable access to the truth choose to continue a lie that has no value whatsoever in being kept?
Gravity is needed to keep us on the ground and to make things fall, regardless of shape. However, no one has been able to explain the mechanism of gravity but in a universe where earth is just like all other observed astronomical bodies, spherical.
Though math is not the same as observation, they are not unrelated. Though this doesn’t matter since you won’t except physical observation as evidence, nor will you even attempt to answer my questions outside of your stock explanations which are irrelevant to most of what I have asked.
Gravity is needed to keep us on the ground and to make things fall, regardless of shape. However, no one has been able to explain the mechanism of gravity but in a universe where earth is just like all other observed astronomical bodies, spherical.
You know that everything in the universe with a mass has gravity, right? Not just the "spherical" things.
Besides which, the Earth is an oblate spheroid so it isn't actually spherical. It is fatter at the equator.
I know about the ice walls to the north and to the south. But how far west do I have to travel to find the well documented ice walls? What country are they in?
Since while reading Van Allen Belts NASA stated they had to remove 1/2 protons because of noise interference, and blaming it on solar storms which if true would cause weeks of blackouts which we do not experience, then satelites as we have been led to believe as the source of our clear comminications and internet gps or whatever we attribute to them is absurd.
Triangulating between toweres, and highflyng balloons is more reasonablle.
And we agree low orbit is attainable, but that is stoll wothin our atmosphere.
Solar storms are constant. They rarely disrupt our tech.
We commonly se satellites launched.
You cannot agree to orbit of any kind, high or low, if you are a flat earthed. Do you know what orbit means?
Again, and most importantly, how and why would so many people perpetuate a lie of this nature? Liars include Not only the regular people who work for private companies whose science relies on a spherical planet,but all of the governments and many many people within those governments. How do they keep the secret and why do they keep the secret?
I’m sure that flying over flat earth is different than flying over mountainous earth, but that is not to say the planet earth is not a sphere. I’m sure if you could provide a link to the website, the source of your confusion would become more apparent.
I recommend a Nikon P 900 because for the $600 you can prove this yourself with minimal effort and low cost, its a great camera to use for viewing moon and stars with video features.
I have two of them, we got one for us and one for my daughter for her own use.
Here’s the problem. 1, I have already personally confirmed the roundness of the earth. 2, I know people who have circumvented it. 3, there is no point in a flat earth conspiracy. 4, there would be too many people who are aware of the flatness. 5, as it is, too many people are aware of the roundness. 6, I’m a canon fan.
This really has gotten pretty boring, so I’ll be off now.
After most NASA science spacecraft launches, researchers wait patiently for months as instruments on board are turned on one at a time, slowly ramped up to full power, and tested to make sure they work at full capacity. It's a rite of passage for any new satellite in space, and such a schedule was in place for the Van Allen Probes when they launched on Aug. 30, 2012, to study two giant belts of radiation that surround Earth.
You cannot agree to orbit of any kind, high or low, if you are a flat earthed. Do you know what orbit means?
Amarel, there is a glaring disconnect between your level of arrogance and your level of knowledge. The International Space Station has vast flat solar panels and it doesn't have any problem orbiting the Earth.
The earth is flat, common sense can tell you this. Your senses tell you that it can't popsically be round, because plains would have to fly upside down.
Since while reading Van Allen Belts NASA stated they had to remove 1/2 protons because of noise interference, and blaming it on solar storms which if true would cause weeks of blackouts which we do not experience, then satelites as we have been led to believe as the source of our clear comminications and internet gps or whatever we attribute to them is absurd.
Triangulating between towers, and highflyng balloons is more reasonablle.
And we agree low orbit is attainable, but that is still within our atmosphere.
FYI, convergence perspective is misunderstood by flat earthers. It does not make a flat plain appear round.
I don’t know why you think observing the curve of the horizon is sad, but you have another common observation to evade. Circumvention is common among commercial and military pilots. Why is it that going in one general direction leads to pilots getting home while heading in te same general direction by which they left Home?
If you know when to look, and where to look, you can SEE satellites orbiting earth with your own bare eyes. I've SEEN many, starting with Sputnik in 1956.
Fyi, my father in law was an engineer working on these, I do not think he knew, although my husband thinks he may have at some point suspected that showed up after the Challenger disaster.
My husband grew up with a dad whose livelihood was vested into the space program.
If a plane is taking a 12 hour flight west to east, and the earth is spinning east at 1200 miles per hour, then wouldn't a plane staying still in the air waiting for the destination to spin underneath be more reasonable?
"This report derives and defines a set of linearized system matrices for a rigid aircraft of constant mass, flying in a stationary atmosphere over a flat, nonrotating earth."
2. The Engineering Analysis and Design of the Aircraft Dynamics Model For the FAA Target Generation Facility LINK:
"The observant reader will notice that the aircraft equations of motion were calculated assuming a flat Earth and that we here assume the development frame was the North-East-Down frame. This implies necessarily that earth rotation and the variation of the gravity vector with position over the earth were ignored in developing the aircraft equations of motion. This simplification limits our mathematical model to the flight of aircraft only. The model will not properly handle the flight of sub-orbital craft and spacecraft such as intercontinental ballistic missiles, satellites, or the space shuttle. The model is adequate for all vehicles traveling under Mach 3."
Your first link doesn’t work, but your quote appears to indicate you are confused in the manner I previously mentioned. Your second quote clearly indicates that the mathematics used are for regular aircraft, meaning flat earth is a simplifying assumption, not a literal truth. Which is why ballistic missiles, satellites, and the space shuttle cannot use this model.
But again, and most importantly, why maintain such a conspiracy? And how is the secret kept?
You actually don’t know or else you’re trolling regarding the Chicago skyline mirage , the weatherman Roy Skiba admitted he was wrong maybe it’s about time you did also ?
I will give you the benefit of the doubt as in you’re Trolling , otherwise your stupidity is spectacularly alarming and I doubt anyone could be as thick as you seem to be
Global warming is a political idea, if anything mad scientist and war lords sending nuclear missiles into the air are causing problems in the earth's balances.
Trillions x years spent into elite pockets, not moon landings. When its exposed, how will that effect our economy? How many companies stocks will hit bottom? And companies, agencies, and departments shut down?
If its a lie, we will be financislly and politically and socially etc be devastated like never before.
Oaddy wagons to collect all the fall guys, while the elite party without concern.
Its amazing only one president was in office for all "successful" moon landings.
And when a president decided go send civilians, 10 years later, it burned up before leaving earth atmosphere.
Think ... think ... think ! 🤔
Nixon - President - 1969 until 1974
American "Moon Landings"
On this day in 1969, President Richard Nixon, along with millions of others, watches as two American astronauts walk on the moon. Later that evening, Nixon recorded succinctly in his diary “the President held an interplanetary conversation with Apollo 11 astronauts Neil Armstrong and Edwin Aldrin on the Moon.”
On December 11, 1972, Apollo 17 touched down on the Moon. This was not only our final Moon landing, but the last time we left low Earth orbit.
Ask questions, and go check with your own investigation.
Here is a great video raising a series of questions, you can check and think for yourself, if willing to question such ingrained teachings from preschool years. The foundation is laid when children accept what their told as truth.
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Part of learning or believing in something should be experience. Never let someone do the thinking for you, if you do then you are in a prison of your own choosing, making decisions and assumptions based off no experience or real information.
If you think the Earth is flat and that we don't sail off because of a huge ice wall, go traveling around the equator.
Experience leads to education. If you haven't seen this supposed ice wall (haven't physically experienced it yourself) how are you not letting someone else's agenda lead your own education?
I have actually traveled around the world, I've never seen an ice wall unless you mean glacier which I can tell you, you can get over.
I have no doubt there are documented ice walls, or ice burgs or ice sheets but that doesn't mean you drop off the earth if you travel over them. That is well documented as well. I really recommend you travel some.
This is a silly argument. No one has traveled beyond the dense ice walls. And there is no earth curve by their own earth curve calculations when anyone can see for themselves with a $600 camera woth a good zoom lens.
You're arguing with someone who has traveled fairly extensively across the globe where as I get the opinion that you have traveled very little. I recommend you do, then you can gain your own experiences instead of allowing someone else's agenda to think for you.
I recommend you do more than look out an airplane window, because you can do as much with your naked eye on a beach, as you think the horizon is visual proof your on a spinning ball.
Seriously get out a zoom lens with a camera, and see if the boats you think go over the horizon magically can reappear by extendinding your visions convergeance.
Eyes play tricks, and airplane windows are thick glass and rounded for the airplane.
Its nice you travel so much, do you think the more you travel the more your window seat reveals?
I tkink you need more than that.
Kansas is flat. Ever hear of the earth curve chart and earth curve calculator?
Oh it is very relevant. It shows you have experience, that you've been outside of just books and what you find online. Where you travel gives you more knowledge than what you have sitting in your house.
So your answer/non-answer is, you've questioned without gaining knowledge and come to conclusions without personal experience. That's like saying you can play tennis without actually having picked up a racket or being on the court.
At first I was exasperated by your logic, now I'm just laughing.
I feel we've come to the equivalent of, who am I going to believe, you- with your keyboard knowledge, or my own eyes and experience.
Sorry but, I am just going to have to recommend you take an actual trip to this supposed ice wall of yours, go where it should be around the equator....and don't go on a trip designed by someone with a flat earth agenda. Maybe then your eyes will open a little more.
I was not even introduced to flat earth by argument, suggestion, or even article or website.
I came to it by thinking through prophesy and signs in the sky, and after knowing we were geocentric by way of the Plank Satellite results.
As I thought through the symetrical motion of the circular pattern of stars over head, and the motion of earth planets etc we were all told, it dawned on me that questions presented holes, and wondered if the academua lies reached even to moon landings and the even the solar system.
After persuing answers to my questions that arose from there, I found my conclusion is they lied, and the answers were easy to find and see if willing to see.
This is a good video to raise the questions we should be willing to ask and discover.
Or believe as told, till its exposed and then deal with those feelings of betrayal after fiighting for a lie.
It was simple, not complicated, the prophesies themselves were not what raised the question, it was the motion we observe of stars that move in a pattern that did.
The prophesies were only identified by the star patterns, so what made me question was the star patterns we physically observe and antjcipate.
I am not into astrology, but that would be a patterned example that shows the pattern is known and anticipated with accuracy.
Many people willing to look for themselves rather than believe money grubbing Nazis, who line their pockets with fake education, making fools of children because that is easy.
The solution surely is to teach your children’s the “ truth “ as in the Bible with it’s talking donkey , serpent , a virgin birth , a wine from water making messiah , and a zombie named Jesus 😳
The motion of stars goes in a symmetrical circular pattern with some retrigrade motion, which also is predicictible with accuracy. But still all move east in this circular pattern above earth.
Any phone atronomy app can show this.
And we always experience Polaris in the earth's center, or "north pole"
Unless we wear the galaxy like a wirly bird hat, as we sit and spin in tea cups as the ride orbits us at crazy speeds, then the star pattern overhead indicates the solar system is nonsense.
I already saw it's explanations, I do not think the stars far above our sun and rotations offer a believable explanation.
Where are they? You've not answered that question, so if there is an ice wall that spans the entire outer ring of this supposed flat planet you should be able to tell me where.
Really though.....I swear, if you travel on a plane you can see the slight curvature of the Earth, and if you travel enough you can go allllllll the way around the globe.
And I am willing to ask questions that seem so many are unwilling to ask.
I have gone through most academics seeing what is taught as if fact, for the purpose of the highest biddders and the agreement to deny anything that is better and more reasonable as theory, and even factual is buried and ignored.
Minds are sold, not educated.
To educate minds are taught to question and think.
Anarctica treaty is a deterent, around 50 countries have signed it to be off limits, and it is well documemted that the terain is to difficult to scale beyond.
I've been around most of the USA, down to Mexico, Germany, part of France, stopped once in Africa but sadly didn't get to leave the airport, Holland (beautiful by the way, if you like Tulips and cheese it is grade A place to go), Russia, Japan, St. Lucia, Curacao (honeymooned there), and a few other of the islands, Italy, and getting ready to go to Alaska probably next year and hopefully this year it'll be Belize. With luck Ireland may be a part of that too. I've been in planes around the globe making stops and connecting flights. I've gone from the US to Europe back to the US, not by going back and forth but by going AROUND.
You didn't read what I wrote. I plan on going, haven't been yet.
Let me ask you something.
If someone says it looks like the drink is cherry flavored but doesn't take a drink, and another person takes a sip and says it's actually tropical punch and not cherry, who is more believable? The person who actually took the drink and could tell you what it was or the person who is just flapping their gums?
The connecting flights hide the actual distance, then add to the known fact that maps are innacurate, because there is no pics in reality from the heights needed.
They recently at this time and age decided to embark on making land masses on maps more accurate. And that includes gross mis information as to size of land masses.
What a pilate plugs in fot destination is precalculated, but our maps are known to be wrong.
Why are they?
Yet they supposedly have been viewing earth for over 50 years.
And why can't we leave low orbit now, but we could in the 60's and 70's?
Annnd the size in land masses has to due with the earth being circular how? We know from back in the day they drew as they saw, now we have satellites orbiting our planet and we can be more precise. We are finding ways to be more precise about pretty much everything now what with technology being as it is.
We certainly can leave orbit, where are you getting that we can't unless you are trying to suggest that we don't because of the COST, is evidence that the earth is flat?
Was it the location or travel method that convinces you? Because looking at an ocean from land or air doesn't change by these locations.
Explain your observations.
I have traveled, but since it is irrelevant unless you can show me by your travel experiences the physical observation reasonings that you think it is, then it is a straw man full of nonsense.
I believe that about as much as I believe the earth is flat. Traveling doesn't mean going to the grocery store. But as I stated previously, we aren't going to agree with each other. Moving on.
I guess you cannot come up with a better argument or reasoning. Your argument is not worth further discussion. You obviously like believing it, because I have answered reasonably and you are repeating the same thing without any points other than you know hw yo board a plane or boat, and your eyes do as everyone else's eyes.
What is your observations?
Like I said planes and boat operators have also concluded the earth is flat.
You have not given any reasoning other than what many others have experienced.
I will not bother answering this any more, because your argument literally is nothing.
This argument is not only wrong, but categorically wrong. The flat earth model has been debunked for hundreds of years. People have been just about everywhere you could possibly go on our planet. That is why we moved on to space travel. It is the next frontier. You aren't arguing for there being a conspiracy perpetuated by NASA. You are arguing that every nation on the planet have been lying about the shape of the earth for hundreds of years just to make people believe the Bible is wrong.
Really? That's what you are going with? So all the Christians who are cosmologists, astronauts, and physicists are trying to cover up the truth about the flat earth claims of the Bible? Really?
If you believe that then you belong in the loony bin.
Im sorry, are you actually suggesting a phone call from a rotary telephone was true, or that it doesn't matter and details like this are insignificant?
