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Foie Gras: Tasty Liver Snack or Cruelty to Animals?

Recently, the city of Chicago has outlawed the sale of foie gras within city limits.  Essentially, this means that all restaurants are forbidden from serving it and that specialty meat shops cannot sell it.  What do you think about this decision?  Does a city government have the right to tell people what they can and cannot eat?  Take a stance and defend your position.  If you are unsure what exactly foie gras is, see this handy Wikipedia entry http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foie_gras

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No right to ban

Side Score: 71
5 points

Normally I would not agree with a government body enacting laws against dietary intake, however, when those laws act to prevent cruelty to animals I feel I have to agree. To think that one's dietary rights supersede the respectful treatment of an animal may be just too much. I realize that it is controversial as to whether or not the force-feeding of an animal is cruelty, but I believe there may be some physical evidence to support that it is: There has been documented physical trauma created by the insertion of the feeding device; also, it is well known that the rapid enlargement of an organ can cause enough increased tension on the capsule of that organ as to cause physical discomfort. Due to these aspects of the feeding process I feel that there is a form of cruelty being delivered to the fowl. As long as the animals are not being treated humanely I cannot support the sale of Foie Gras.

Side: Right to ban
LKitchen(5) Disputed
1 point

Isn't killing animals to eat them cruel... i guess the government should just ban meat then right? problem solved? (sarcastic but not in like a mean way, just to make a point =) )

Side: No right to ban
SPace(5) Disputed
2 points

LKitchen, your comment brings up the reason why we have government regulations in the first place. The main argument I'm seeing against banning foie gras is that the government has no right to force a ban on how we eat. Why not? That's one reason why we even have a government, to set definitions and rules for living in a peaceful society. Yes America is the land of the free...within reason. Anything else is just barbarianism. If the government doesn't step in then the idea of "animal cruelty" would be open to wide interpretation.

However I will admit that I believe the process is flawed and deeply corrupt but that's another issue. The issue here is that the procedure of force feeding duck and geese that causes discomfort to the animal AND has been proven to increase the mortality rate of the animal just to provide a LUXURY dish is morally wrong. Especially since it's totally unnecessary because a humane alternative is available where you still get your engorged liver but without the controversial mistreatment of animals.

Side: Right to ban
4 points

The government should have the right to ban this type of food because in this case, the animals are being abused. Is fatty liver truly healthy anyway? Why abuse so many ducks and geese for an unhealthy delicacy.

Side: Right to ban
3 points

First question we must ask our self, is how would we feel to be treated like this, being force fed a food to become more delicious for a consumer. That is not the way I would like to be treated. I work at a meat cutting shop in Az, and we sell Beef Tripe (which is the inside lining of a cow's stomach). We also sell Chiken Liver's, Hearts, Gizards, and Necks, but these animals are raised at farms the normal way not abused before death by (force feeding them).

Side: Right to ban
DestinyGood(9) Disputed
2 points

Kay, so WOW, talk about double standards?! you say its wrong but you work at a meat cutting shop?! No matter how the animal is rased they should NOT be killed.. Force feeding an animal is wrong and so is being raised just to be killed and devoured!! (on a farm).

Side: No right to ban
3 points

I definitely believe that the government has the right to ban this. Personally I feel the government controls everything already but force feeding and animal that is definitely animal cruelty. I really think this falls more into the side of Animal Cruelty then the government trying to control what we eat. Right now I think that force feeding is hateful and heartless. I am in no way a vegeterian but why put suffering on an animal. It is morally wrong and not right in anyway.

Side: Right to ban
3 points

I did not know what Foie Gras was until I read this debate!Duck or goose that has been forced-fed corn until its liver is eight to ten times its size, in a short time,sounds like animal cruelty to me.Eating any part of any animal that is hurt and handled in this manner does not appeal to me.To cause health issues and call it a delicacy,a French delicacy not here in America!

Side: Right to ban
2 points

I believe that this city has every right to ban the food. After doing a bit of research i found that foie gras is a fatty liver of a duck that has been force fed to enlarge it ten times its normal size. I dont know about you but if i were being force fed and my liver was ten times its original size i wouldnt be very happy with the fact that people were eating it. This is animal cruelty and should be stopped.

Side: Right to ban
2 points

Normally I don't like the government telling me what I can and cannot eat, however, in this case I believe that they do have a right to ban. I am not a vegetarian, but I do care about animal rights, force feeding just doesn't seem like something that should be done. I know that the other side of the argument is that the animals in feed lots are in dirty conditions that cannot be good for them either, however I believe that should be changed as well. If people are doing something that can cause health problems for an animal, I don't think it should be legal and that the government has a right to ban it.

Side: Right to ban
2 points

Cruelty to animals is the infliction of suffering or harm upon animals, other than humans, for purposes other than self-defense. More narrowly, it can be harm for specific gain, such as killing animals for food or fur use. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cruelty_to_animals)

I believe they have a right to ban Foie Gras. It is consider animal cruelty, read the above definition. How would you like to be force fed? It's like eating too much and having that really full feeling like your going to burst if you eat one more bite, but then your forced to eat more.

It does not impose on our freedom because animal cruelty is already illegal and this falls into that category.

Yes, we eat cows, chickens, and pigs which falls into the definition. Although I personally believe it is inhuman how they are treated, it is said that they are slaughtered in the most human way possible. It is not considered animal cruelty for that reason.

Side: Right to ban
2 points

Gavaging ducks and geese is morally wrong. If we can't help ducks and geese, how can we help ourselves? In my opinion, force-feeding animals is perverted. However, anyone who force-feeds geese, has a right to do that (in a place that doesn't have it banned already).

Side: Right to ban
LKitchen(5) Disputed
1 point

What about killing them beau? they are dying anyways and thats a lot worse than force feeding... would that mean the government has the right to ban meat?

Side: No right to ban
juanita1063(2) Disputed
1 point

I would definitely rather be killed right away than tortured. There has to be logic here. It is cruel to force feed animals, I understand meat being part of the food chain but torturing an animal for food that is morally wrong we can definitely argue about this but I know its wrong no one and nothing should be tortured.

Side: Right to ban
2 points

I believe the government is doing the right thing on account of its harm to ducks. Its one thing to kill something quickly and painlessly, but to have two weeks of force feeding is way too much, and is no way to treat any living thing.

Side: Right to ban
2 points

I am not the kind of person that is against eating meat or animals. They were put on Earth to eat, but when it comes to animals suffering or experiencing cruelty, that's where it crosses the line. I don't blame Chicago for banning foie gras, because it's not right to force feed an animal to make the liver bigger. It's just disgusting. These animals can feel pain just as much as you or I can. Would you like something crammed down your throat, and on top of that being forced to eat something you didn't want. This not only would make the animal frightened, but the pain of the tube in it's esophagus has got to hurt. It's stated that the bird can't breathe very well after, because it swells. I can't imagine feeling like I was suffocating. It's just wrong and cruel and seems pointless to make them suffer. I believe Chicago has any right to ban foie gras.

Side: Right to ban
2 points

We have no right to force feed anyone or anything especially with the methods that are being used. This is disgusting and it needs to be stopped.

Side: Right to ban
1 point

I think that if you want to eat fattened duck, you have the right to. If you have the money to pay for it then you should get to have it!!!!! The government has no right to tell us how to eat or what wwe can serve.

Side: No right to ban
clearlight(24) Disputed
1 point

Freedom isn't the right to do anything you please, thank goodness. Yes, money can buy you anything, but preferably cruelty free.

Side: No right to ban
1 point

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSEDmyaJMKs

First let me say that I don't really feel comfortable debating this because there is a lot I feel I don't know and it's unclear to me if we're banning all duck and goose liver or just gavage-based foie gras but I have developed opinions based on the information provided and my own research.

As far as the video goes, I know it's pretty bias and i disagree with a lot of what the narrator says but it does show that the process is pretty cruel. The question is what should we do about it? Hmmm if there was some way that an organization could set regulations to stop the mistreatment of these animals........

I know it's a controversial subject seeing how the government shouldn't tell us what we can and cannot eat but this ban is really our only way of trying to prevent this mistreatment. We can't enforce our animal rights regulations in France and I see this as a way to maybe force them to adopt some. Besides nobody will die if they don't get their foie gras, it's a luxury dish...no harm no fowl. BOOM I said it first!

I'm sure we would agree to ban gavage-based foie gras seeing how there's a more humane alternative but there's no real way for us to tell the difference so I would support this ban in the hope that international regulations will eventually be put in place to reduce the amount of the unnecessary suffering of these animals.

Side: Right to ban
1 point

would you like it if someone was cramming food down your throat just so they can fatten up your liver and eat it, I think not. I dont believe its ok to be cruel to animals just for a "tasty liver" snack. Although, in the article i read they said it was possible to obtain foie gras through natural feeding and i am ok with this because it does not entitle force feeding past the ducks normal food intake.

Side: Right to ban
1 point

This is cruelty to animals. I NEVER side with government telling someone what they can eat, but this is not just any food. It is completely immoral to treat an animal like this especially for such a selfish reason.

Side: Right to ban
1 point

Before actually doing some research on Foie Gras, i would have typically thought that no government or any higherpower for that matter should have the right to tell you what to eat. I stilll infact believe this, but when reading how they hurt these animals i think it becomes more of an Animal Rights issue. Needless to say after seeing countless pictures of the poor ducks with huge silver feeding tubes stuffed down thier necks and reading grueling paragraph after another about them being over stuffed to the point where thier livers are ten times larger than normal. This is sick and wrong, and its people who eat things like this that allow terrible things like this to keep happening! So without a doubt BAN IT!

Side: Right to ban
1 point

I don’t even understand how there is a “for” and “against” for this subject. I am for the City of Chicago banning Foie Gras because the product is produced in an inhumane manor. The US has historically accepted the inhumane treatment of animals in food production, but I think this is a step we have to take to ban the cruelty of animals. For example: your neighbor begins to force-fed his dog, so you call someone about it and the man is taken to court for inhumane treatment. But on the other side of things, inhumane treatment of animals is happening constantly in factory farms, but since it’s a moneymaker and for human consumption, it’s okay? No, it’s not humane to pen or cage these living animals in filthy confined spaces and force-feed bird after bird with the intention of creating disease within, so that wealthy people can enjoy a unnecessary delicacy.

Side: Right to ban
1 point

The fact that we are even having a debate on whether or not the government should have a say in what we eat is appalling! Our health is not their job neither is morality. I believe the government should get out of the morality business. Moreover, they suck at it! If we are told what and what not to eat- where does the term individuality go? I'll tell you where it it goes...it goes away. Please think people, and don't stand for this blatant dictatorship mentality. It's been proven for years that it does not work. As for the animal rights activists out there, fight the good fight but don't let your government tell you what you can and can not eat, it's wrong! And if you enjoy the freedom to speak out for animals take a look at the big picture...your rights could be next.

Side: No right to ban
clearlight(24) Disputed
1 point

I don't think animal cruelty is an individual right. The government isn't perfect by a long shot but I wouldn't want to live lawless. What would you consider the good fight to be for animal activists when the fight is about animal cruelty? Who do you think is behind our laws? only politicians? Many people lobby for moral laws that protect us from ourselves. Who would wear a seat belt or helmet if it wasn't a law?

Side: No right to ban
1 point

Although I very strongly agree that the power of a nation needs to be in the hands of "the people" and not the governments, I believe the reason we created a government in the first place was to help regulate our freedoms. Now, I don't necessarily agree that what the government was originally created for is still being followed through with today, but I will say that I have no problem with the city of Chicago stepping in to take a stand against abuse. Freedom is the power to make choices and with that freedom comes the obligation of making the highest quality of choices; not only for ourselves, but for our families, cities, country and world. When we as a species fail to make wise decisions I believe they should be questioned and altered, for that is evolution of the mind and of a nation. Freedom to choose is a beautiful privilege that I am grateful to have, but we all need to realize that not everyones choices will be the same, thus "right and wrong" is born. I think the "murderer" is "wrong" and the murderer thinks he's "right." I know this all is situational but if we didn't have enforcement on things that brought harm to the world and its people/creatures I think we may find ourselves amidst chaos. I also think that people don't realize the enormity of a situation until it affects them. Everyone should have the freedom to choose but what happens when it starts affecting your everyday life? This is where mass decisions come in handy and I believe that any law that prohibits abuse, whether it be a child, animal, spouse, or destroying the rainforest, to be a just law. I just can't see any reason why we would want to put another living creature through more harm than what is required so that we may entice our palette. Being a carnivore myself, I understand the food chain and what it entails, and have no false illusions that something died so that I may live. But, I do like to think that the choices I make will have the least hurtful impact as possible. I think that there are plenty of amazing foods in this world that are already delicious enough that we can forgo the side dish of goose abuse. I also just can't see any gain of going through measures of animal abuse other than the producers wanting to make a profit. I don't believe that any living entity deserves a harder life than necessary due to greed.

Supporting Evidence: foie gras farm...picture 30 gives a good visual (www.nofoiegras.org)
Side: Right to ban
1 point

I wouldn't normally agree to ban a certain food item because as human beings we have the right to eat what we please. The government is already taking some of our rights as americans away and I don't wish to see any more of our human rights be banned. I also am a true believer in animal rights as well. I hate to even think of what these animals feel while being treated the way it is to be cut open so we can prepare a "french" delicacy. I may be biased because I don't particularly care for foie gras, but i would not mind if it were outlawed and the continuing of this cruelty to these ducks was stopped.

Side: Right to ban
1 point

I believe the city has a right to ban whatever it likes or in this case dislikes. It is being voted on and majority rules. The fact that the animal is being force fed to fatten its liver is torture. The killing of the animal for food at least puts it out of its misery. Leave the torture to the French....

Side: Right to ban
1 point

You shouldent have the right to kill ANY living species for your own wants.. and I say wants because we do not need meat.. They're are plenty of alternatives.. And why should killing animals be legal if cannibalism isent.. My point is,, we're all living species and we if we don't need to be killed than we shouldent be.

Side: Right to ban
1 point

I agree to the right to ban foods that involve animal cruelty. Some humans will eat anything without regard as to what it is, where it came from or what is in it.

Side: Right to ban
1 point

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4dhcMhj9p8

All this to eat fatty meat?

Yuck.

Side: Right to ban
3 points

The government doesn't have the right to tell us how, or what to eat. There are more important issues that they should be concerned with.

Side: No right to ban
3 points

I think that people should retain the rights for what they eat. If you don't like Foie Gras or you don't agree with the way the animals are raised then don't eat it and or don't patronize restaurants that offer and serve the dish.

Side: No right to ban
3 points

I don not believe a any government should be able to dictate or create laws to restrict what we eat. The governments main issue is animal cruelty. However this is obviously political. If animal cruelty was the issue, there would be major regulation and banning of fast food production. The government is aware of the conditions we raise our chickens, for example, let alone the genetic engineering we have do the chickens. Is that not animal cruelty? Since it is obvious that animal cruelty is not the real issue; I see no reason for the government to legislate what we eat.

Side: No right to ban
3 points

Is banning Foie Gras really going to change anything besides food on somebody's plate? If people have learned they love enlarged liver, they will find a way to get it. Veil is banned from a lot of places but i can still go and find a restaurant that serves it. If the government is so worried about the types of meat we eat, shouldn't they be trying to ban how cattle are being stacked up on top of each other so we can all enjoy a cheeseburger. It's really not something that they should be concerned with right now.

Side: No right to ban
3 points

Essentially this isn't even about the foie gras. Its about freedom of rights, this just happens to be one of those sticky situations that make it complicated. Its like banning plan B, its killing the baby, but its better than abortion? Do women have the right to choose or does the government? Its the same thing, it may be cruelty to animals but how many rights will we let the government take from us? So, what happens if we say yes to this, and then something else, eventually they will take it all away. They could pass a law saying you can't say " i want to kill you" in public, and everyone's like "well i guess that makes sense" but then your empowering them to start taking other free speech away. Have we not the right to oppose our government if we do not see it fit? I suppose a solution would be that we would have to get the foie gras imported, that we cannot do that to animals in the U.S. My question though is whats considered animal cruelty? I think of animal cruelty as raising animals to kill and eat. Should we make everyone become a vegetarian? No, thats taking away our rights, just like banning the eating of it.

Side: No right to ban
2 points

The more we give the government power to rule over the small things like what we eat and serve, the less we will realize that the big things are getting controlled too. soon we will not have a say, and as far as i have learned about the foundations of the USA, it has been founded on freedom and the right to choose. Like the famous story about the pastor wanting to move the organ all the way across the room, but the people would not have it; his solution move it bit by bit so they wouldn't notice the small changes. We too will have the little things like foie gras (not that i have the appetite for such a thing) taken away from us, then it might very soon be our freedom all together. "Stand up and say no to banning Foie Gras"!

Side: No right to ban
3 points

I absolutely agree with agutkowski. The reason the city is outlawing Foie Gras is about cruelty. The reason for this debate is whether or not the city has the right pass laws like outlawing Fois Gras. We have to look at the bigger picture. No one wants to see animals hurt, and if they do, maybe they need some help of another kind, however no one wants to see our freedoms taken away. If we overlook the making of some of these "minor laws" then really how long before they think they have the right to meddle in your life. Lets see how pro government you are when they decide that you are only allowed to have one child or only keep a male child, maybe then you will wonder if you gave the government too much power. Afterall, "Absolute power corrupts absolutely."

Side: No right to ban
Pineapple(1449) Disputed
2 points

So you're 100% okay with the fact that it causes a prolonged state of hurt for the animal?

Side: Right to ban
SPace(5) Disputed
1 point

So agutkowski, you're saying that we should vote to allow the mistreatment of animals in order to make a point to the government that they shouldn't take away our freedoms?

You're getting off the subject here. By all means, stand up to the government when they try to take away some serious freedoms but we're talking about them taking the animal abuse out of producing duck liver (different from taking away duck liver altogether).

Side: Right to ban
2 points

I believe the government has no right to ban Foie Gras. Yes I have a big issue with cruelty to animals, but we eat awkward things everyday. In Ecuador they eat guinea pigs(cuy), Asia they eat amaradillos, Korea they eat dogs and cats. That is their culture so why interfere with that. Yes it may be an unappealing thing to eat but people seem to like it. I think the goverment should stay out of the food business. If it is not posionous, deadly or anything dangerous then let them eat it. If you are going to ban this particular dish, you might as well ban everything else that may seem unappealing.

Side: No right to ban
sschmid2(2) Disputed
2 points

With all do respect, in places like Ecuador and Asia they do not put the animal through constant state of discomfort, pain and terror before serving them. I do agree that the government should stay out of the food business, but do u actually think that the way they treat these animals is humane?

Side: Right to ban
Elvira(3446) Disputed
1 point

So, if in another country there is canibalism or some such, it's right to do it here.

Side: Right to ban
2 points

The government already has to much control I see no reason to give them more.

Side: No right to ban
2 points

Fois Gras my be some kind of torture in some way but we have to think about how if we keep giving the government more and more power they are going to have power over everything. This is a very complicated situation to agree or disagree on only because so many people think it as animal abuse but if you really think about it, in France this is something that is mass produced because its something that France is very well known for so how could the government just take it all away from these people when they have been doing this for so long? I believe that if you give them (the government) an inch they are going to take a mile as they always do not matter the situation. If you give a kid a piece of candy they are always going to want more just as you give the government some rights they are going to take it all away from us and we are not going to have our rights anymore. I think that you can eat whatever you want no matter what. If people were starving the government would not be banning Foie Gras. Have they thought about the people in Hati? Or even just the regular every day people who are trying really hard to just put food on the table? Its hard to see it this way in a lot of peoples eyes but this is how I see it.

Side: No right to ban
SPace(5) Disputed
1 point

I think it's pretty presumptuous to say that letting the government define animal cruelty and make regulations to prevent it will ultimately lead to them taking away all of our rights.

Another thing, with foie gras being sold at an average price of $50 per pound something tells me it's not being shipped to Haiti right now.

Side: Right to ban
2 points

I belive the people have the right to eat what they want. If this debate were in another country there would be no arguement just opinion. The fact is we americans try to justify what is right and what is wrong for the world. But in fact the governmet controls what is right and what is wrong in so many different ways, why do they need to control what we eat?!!!

Side: No right to ban
2 points

I believe that they have no right to ban this delicacy. We eat chicken and ducks don't we? So, I see no real point in trying to ban the eating of such a food. Compare it to the eating of CUY (guinea pig). That is considered to be a delicacy or staple food in South America. Yet here in America we have guinea pigs for pets. We look at people with disgust at the thought of eating something like that. But to them it is just a normal way of life. Just as is the eating of foie gras. It's perfectly normal to the people who eat it. Why should we take that away from them? That would be like trying to take a hamburger and fries out of the hands and mouths of almost any American. It's normal to us. Eating foie gras is just as normal to them.

Side: No right to ban
2 points

I think banning Foie Gras is not a good idea. What next double cheeseburgers? Seems like we have a law for everything nowadays. Instead of adding another law maybe we should get rid of one. If people don't like the way Foie Gras comes to be then they have the option not to support it with the vote of the dollar.

Side: No right to ban
2 points

It may not be right to force feed birds but its not right to inject cows or chickens with hormones either. Think they are doing it because they (the government) hasn't found a way to get in there and make out a big enough cut maybe . i think we should all have the choice to eat what we want. I don't think they should ban it.

Side: No right to ban
clearlight(24) Disputed
1 point

Just because one cruelty to farmed animals is not being fully addressed doesn't mean another should not. This isn't a ban on what you eat but on animal cruelty.

Side: Right to ban
1 point

I think that this has nothing to do with the governments power to ban everything, but pertains to the particular instance. I don't like how the animals are raised, but they are raised for food, and unless you are a vegetarian i think you are a hippocrite to say that they can ban it. Afterall, the ducks are going to be killed which is a lot worse than having pain.

Side: No right to ban
Elvira(3446) Disputed
1 point

I'd rather be killed.

Side: Right to ban
1 point

No, I don't think they should have the right to ban it. Since when should the government decide what we should and shouldn't eat? This is America after all, land of the free!

Side: No right to ban
1 point

The "traditional" way is to force feed the animal, now that is wrong. But if you read on it says a more conventional way is natural feeding. So if there was a reg put onto force feeding rather then prohibiting it that would have been better. I think that the Government over stepped its bondaries here. BOOOOO on the Government for that one. And another thing - I use to live in front of a pond, have you ever seen a tame goose or duck be feed? They hardley need to be forced to eat their on body weight in bread in just under a minute. like i said force feeding is bad, but its not hard at all to get a goose or duck overly fat naturally feeding it. every one is assuming that every goose or duck used for Foie Gras is force feed. and we all know what assume means... makes an ASS out of U and ME. Not sorry to offend.

Side: No right to ban
1 point

Wow! How could the government really take it that far. As humans I think we have eaten everything in the book. What is the difference between eating a duck and rabbit or even a lamb? If this is animal cruelty, we just lost all of the butchers for taking a cow, chicken, and pigs life. God created animals knowing that they would be our food supply along with vegetation. Whether we choose to eat animal meat or not is a PERSONAL preference. What would the government do next, maybe shipping mandatory groceries to our homes instead of choosing our family meals at the grocery store?!

Side: No right to ban
1 point

i don't agree with the decision to band foreign gas. the government could offer rewords to those who chose to not use foreign gas but until the government comes up with a substitute i simply don't see the decision as being justified. The governemt id supposed to be there to support the peoples best interest, telling people what they can and cant do dose not fall under the protection of the people.

Side: No right to ban
Elvira(3446) Disputed
1 point

This isn't petrol we're talking about .

Side: Right to ban
1 point

Although I think it is inhumane how people go about making foie gras, I think that the government does not have the right to ban it from being served as a dish. The way the meat industry conducts their business, in my opinion, is completely inhumane...all the added hormones and the living conditions of the poor animals! But that's not against the law...The goverment already has too many rules for us. Isn't this supposed to be a free country? To a certain extent, rules and regulations help keep control over society, but what happened to our independence???...the right to eat what we want to eat? If someone wants to eat foie gras, they should be allowed to eat it! Why should their be a law against it?! There are so many rules in this world, what about our liberty and freedom?

Side: No right to ban
1 point

I dont agree with any government banning the rights we have been given to us layed down in the constitution.The us government has already made it almost impossible to be a true individual so banning a type of food is just one more thing to control us by. But at the same time if it was canabalism we would all agree with them banning it so that says something about what is socialy acceptable.

Side: No right to ban
1 point

I wrote in last night, as I have been reading a lot of information about food, I have begun to stew. I would like to repeat that I am not for the hurting of animals, however i am a little incensed that we are sitting around worried about the ducks when there are much bigger issues, that are much worse. I realize that to quote a song is a bit cheesy, but the band James has it correct when they sing, "If you wanna change the world shuit your mouth and start this minute!" While we waste time, me included, sitting around and whining about the world, we could actively be doing something. With that said, see ya later!

Side: No right to ban
1 point

What gives anyone the right to choose what another person eats, no matter what it is? I don't eat organic things and never will. I hate organic food, so does that give me the right to try to get it bannned? NO! If you don't like what the food or agree with how it is processed it's simply stay away from it.

Side: No right to ban
clearlight(24) Disputed
1 point

No one cares what you eat. The concern is on the treatment of farmed animals. Do you even understand what organic means? Organic is clean food vs. pesticide, hormone, antibiotic, preservative, artificially, laced foods. Same food, one clean, one not.

Side: Right to ban
1 point

I don't believe it! It's pretty ridiculous that they would ban it for animal cruelty when we eat pigs, cows, lamb etc. People eat duck and geese, so why ban just the liver? What else would you use it for? Why not ban eating duck or geese in general? It's pretty dumb that they are trying to control everything, even what we eat.

Side: No right to ban
1 point

Whether it is an animal or not individual people are capable of making their own coherent decisions on what they think is wrong or right. If someone likes it then it is going to be hard to stop them from eating foie gras. A ban will only cause them to go around legal boundaries to find and eat it so i don't see as putting a ban on it as solving any problems. Strictly speaking it is an individuals right to eat what they choose and no one should be able to tell them that their personal preferences are not up to them

Side: No right to ban
1 point

I don't think anyone has the right to tell us what we can eat, or what we can serve in a restaurant, but I do have a problem with the force feeding of the ducks. In my opinion, it is just wrong, I mean, how would you like someone to force feed you?

Side: No right to ban
1 point

We have been eating animals for a very long time now. I do not believe it is cruelty I believe it is the way of the food chain. We should be able to choose what we consume, it is our bodies not the governments. They cannot own what you consume.

Side: No right to ban
clearlight(24) Disputed
1 point

There are lots of things humans have been doing for a long time but it doesn't make them right when it comes to animal cruelty.

Side: Right to ban
1 point

I Agree it is just one more thingfor thr government to control. I donot agree with the pain the animal may have to endure but as long as humans are not being eatin then we should be fine but Duck is an animal and like the food chain we are above so be it.

Side: No right to ban
1 point

I really don't think the government should have any kind of power over what we sell. I see a lot of comments about prolonged misery for animals. If we really want to talk about animal cruelty, should the government then also ban the eating of beef, chicken, or pork because the animals are pretty much tortured by poor diets and crowded living areas before they are slaughtered which ultimately brings them pain, no, so why is eating the liver of another animal all of a sudden considered cruelty? I think people should be able to eat whatever it is they want to eat, its how the food chain works. That is my thoughts on this subject anyway.

Side: No right to ban
clearlight(24) Disputed
1 point

If so many people agree animals are abused in the food business, why when one food is finally banned because of cruelty it raises an uproar? Perhaps if more people were for the ban of cruelty it would eventually come to include all animals.

Side: Right to ban
1 point

I have a difficult time with the fact that our government has their hand in anything these days let alone, what we eat! The city of Chicago has no right to ban foie gras. Different cultures, religions, households and communities eat different things. Does this mean that we will ban peanut sauce for Thai food or red wine for communion? Last time I checked, I was the one who made the decision on what I was going to eat for dinner. If I wanted to eat some duck liver then that is what I would do! I am sorry but no one has the right to tell anyone what they can and cannot eat. As Brie mentioned, this would be just the beginning of a whole list of free acts the government would take away from us if this sort of action is allowed to go on. It is time for society to stand up for what they feel is right and to say 'NO' when it comes to the government making decisions for us.

Side: No right to ban
clearlight(24) Disputed
1 point

I believe society is standing up for what is right by banning animal cruelty. People would not stop animal cruelty unless it was made into a law and enforced by the government. Eat all the humanely prepared gizzards and animal corpses you want, no one is stopping you.

Side: Right to ban
1 point

What is really being debated here? Is it the cruelty to animals? Or can it be governmental intervention? I believe it is both and these are really to separate issues. Therefore with that being said let us rationally look at issue one which is the cruelty aspect of this discussion. To slaughter animals and leave their rotting bodies to waste seems rather cruel. To use the animal for consumption does not constitute cruelty but usefulness. If you torture an animal before you eat it would obviously constitute improper treatment. Are you seeing my progression here? The issue becomes relevant by what you or the government consider mal treatment of an animal that can be consumed by a human being.

Side: No right to ban
1 point

The city has not wright to ban food and they have come to their senses and voted to repeal the law.

The alderman whom Mayor Daley derisively calls Joe "Foie Gras" Moore (49th) now knows how the geese and ducks feel.

Two years after the City Council banned the liver delicacy made by jamming a steel pipe down a bird’s esophagus, Daley essentially did the same to Moore on the City Council floor.

By a vote of 37-6, the foie gras ban that Daley claims made Chicago an international laughingstock was repealed, thanks to a legislative end-run that set a new standard for violating protocol and rolling over the opposition.

Side: No right to ban
1 point

I believe that all animals were placed here for human consumption and i find it hard to understand when laws are enacted to restrict their consumption. Animals should not be abused but we should be able to eat a food that dates back many generations.

Side: No right to ban
clearlight(24) Disputed
1 point

I think that the point of the ban is the abuse. People used to butcher animals alive instead of killing them first, and that was banned.

Side: Right to ban
1 point

The gov't has taken too much athority in what they allow and donot allow already... many issues are not even open to us for debate noe voting i strongly oppose the gov't in the element for which it now stands, against the people in general is much to controlling already..

Side: No right to ban
1 point

The government has absolutely NO right to ban any type of food. We as Americans should get off ous lazy a*% and take a look at what rights we are losing everyday. The government is taking away our rights and freedoms right in front of our noses. I believe that if we dont stop the government from sticking its nose where it dosen't belong on something as infinitesimal as this. Then we will be waking up to much larger ban's and government control on things that actually matter.

Side: No right to ban
1 point

The government does not have the right to tell people what to eat. The more the government extends its power the more powerful it will become. I do not agree about eating Foie Gras but it is my right to decide to eat it or not. It is not the governments concern; it has nothing to do with the government what I choose to eat. There are so many other issues that the government should be concerning itself with. It is a total waist of power and the taxpayers money for the government to be concerning itself about what the taxpayers are eating. There are far more better things the government should be doing to help the American public.

Side: No right to ban
clearlight(24) Disputed
1 point

I do believe it is the "people", the taxpayers, who want foods monitored by the government to ensure food safety. Animal cruelty is part of the monitoring system put in place by people concerned with farmed animal rights.

Side: Right to ban
1 point

I think it should be the American's choice as to whether or not he or she wants to eat Foie Gras. This goes for any food.

Side: No right to ban
1 point

I think it's wrong to ban it, it wont make any difference in the manufacture of the stuff, if people want it all they have to do is get it from outside city limits, you can even get it off e-bay and it will be delivered so all their doing is removing one item from restaurant menus and grocers shelves making it harder for them to make a living. If their trying to make a moral stand why not also ban McDonalds and all food that is not organic. What about medicines and Cosmetics that have been tested on animals I bet these are still all available within city limits.

Side: No right to ban
1 point

Out of interest is this ban for all Foie Gras or just Gavage Foie Gras, an outright ban on all of it is just stupid as it is only Gavage Foie Gras that is made by force feeding the animal.

Side: No right to ban
0 points

I've never even heard of Foie Gras, but if it is animal meat, what gives them the right to ban it? I've eaten heart, liver, tongue - I don't care for the taste, but I would never ban it.

Side: No right to ban
KristinR(2) Disputed
2 points

Foie Gras is an enlarged duck liver. The duck has been force fed corn to the point where it can cause health problems. I don't think the government should have a right to ban food just because they want to, but I do think that when animal cruelty is involved, they should step in. :)

Side: Right to ban
2 points

If they are torturing them to get the food just the way that they like in, then it should be banned.

Side: Right to ban