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For From Within, take the message to the abortion clinics

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The last five or ten mins of this video (start at 34:30) tells the story of some Christian abortion protesters who were on the verge of giving up at an abortion clinic, when an atheist's counter protest led to answered prayer that saved a baby's life.

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I hope god rapes him in heaven.

People will take the pro life stance to the world in many ways.

There are good Americans around the nation who will protest in their own ways. We all have different personalities and will speak the truth to the inhumanity of abortion in ways that fit our demeanor.

There is not just one way of doing so. I have respect for all forms of peaceful protest as long as they do not kill people or blow up clinics.

SlapShot(2608) Disputed
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People will take the pro life stance to the world in many ways.

Yes they do do--like bombing abortion clinics and killing innocents.

And I personally view the Anti Choice stance (I refuse to say pro life) as that of elitist, arrogant, narrow-minded reactionary bigots who actually feel that by some miracle they have the fucking right to command a woman on what to do with her own body and her life-altering choices.

There are good Americans around the nation who will protest in their own ways. We all have different personalities and will speak the truth...

Good Americans like me (a combat vet who fought for our Rights) and millions others who know that Pro Choice is a constitutional right. And so we DO speak the truth whenever we talk about Pro Choice. We do NOT bomb abortion clinics and try to tell women how to live their lives. We do NOT demand that un-wanted babies are bought into the world so they can suffer. Only idiots do this.

I have respect for all forms of peaceful protest as long as they do not kill people or blow up clinics.

No you don't you fucking hypocritical liar. You pre-ban me and other Pro Choicers from your silly debates. You accuse us of being evil and being murderers. Just admit it: You would jizz your pants if tomorrow you read in the papers that several Pro Choicers were killed in a confrontation with Anti Choicers. You would say something typically idiotic like "they deserved it for all the babies they killed."

Worse...you don't even have the cojones to admit this when I confront you with it. Therefore, I would be lying if I told you I respect you. I do not.

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FromWithin(8241) Disputed
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You are one sick bigoted narcissistic fool. Like i said, you do not write a post without tooting your own horn.

Usually it's all about your college degrees. Now it's about your combat.

Too bad College did not teach you some humility and some humanity, or the simple decency not to smear feces on Christian literature. You have made to my auto ban list and there you will stay.

If other people are stupid enough not to ban you, that's their problem.

Let me give you some advice since you are too dense to get it. A truely intelligent person has no need to brag about his intelligence. Others will see it if it is there to see.

You on the other hand must tell the world how smart you are, and by doing so prove the exact opposite.

Saintnow(3684) Clarified
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I'm going to ban you if you don't keep the language clean. I give you slack because you have earned my respect unlike most of the idiots here, but to be fair to the idiots I have to hold you pretty close to the same standard.

You're the only atheist/evolutionist who has shown enough guts and character to go toe to toe with me, and I don't want that to change...of course unless you actually see how your sin separates you from God and He made the way for you to be reconciled to Him by paying your price, suffering our penalty, by giving His life's blood to cover you if you will believe on Him and receive Him as your Savior. Then you will stand shoulder to shoulder with me and know what it's like to be a soldier for the Lord and take whatever flak the enemy can muster.

KNHav(1957) Disputed Banned
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I think in all of history of abortion there was like 8 people out of the billions of Christians that were radical to assault in violence abortion clinics or doctors.

So to disrespect billions of people for the actions of 8 individuals acting in their own crazy minds is FAR from reasonable in any platform!

Disrespecting billions of Christians for the actions of a cult like West Borough Baptist, who is about 40 people, almost all 1 individual family of parents children and grandchildren, again is unreasonable.

Judge God according to Himself, and judge God's people according to their fruit. Not according to wacky straw man arguments that let you feel comfortable in deception!

Cartman(18192) Disputed Banned
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Of course someone like you would think peace involved killing and blowing things up.

Saintnow(3684) Disputed
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Fartman, the video never mentions violence, never condones violence, that's not what it's about. I only asked people to watch the last ten minutes and see if you are heartless enough that you don't shed a tear. Then you show how stone hearted cold you are by just hating them, hating that baby, calling them all liars. What is wrong with you? Whatever your problem is, you've rejected God's cure and solution and what you have in this world, no matter how bad you think it might be, it's still better than you deserve so enjoy it as much as you can. I've had enough of you. God loves you and my job is only to tell you the truth. If you're not saved from Hell, you're on your way to that fire pit and you can't say nobody told you, you can't say God did not try to reach you. You are rejecting Him, spitting in the face of His Son who will be your Judge if not your Savior. I really feel sorry for you, but I've had enough of your garbage and you are fortunate, for now as long as you are in this world, that God is more patient with you than I am patient with you. Sorry Cartman, there's apparently nothing I can do for you so it's time for me to move on. Yes I've said it before, hoped I was wrong, but I guess I'm not.

Saintnow(3684) Clarified
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watch the last ten minutes of this, it's awesome.....anybody who does not shed a tear watching this has to be a hard hearted devil. It powerfully illustrates the truth against abortion.

Ignoramis(381) Disputed Banned
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Hi from Within, here is a message from Mr Donald to Rosie O'Donnelled (a cunt). I personally think he was justified in getting mad, however, he did the following publicly.

https://youtu.be/d32577Hom08

I want you to think back to WWII, and how it started over a disagreement over telegraph poles. That was the toppling point.

Wars are VERY VERY easy to start.

Despite what people say about him, he is clearly not a sociopath. He is super honest. However, the reality is that peace cannot be obtained when the world makes you into a bad guy.

FromWithin(8241) Disputed
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Hillary has been proven to allow hostile governments to see our classoified email, and has done corrupt business with our enemies to get funding for the clinton foundtion.

We once again need a strong president like Reagan who told russia to tear down tht wall!

THEY DID!

You are too young to understand our history. Weakness creates war. Strength prevents war!

Saintnow(3684) Disputed
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Hey idiot, apparently you want to be here because you took time to type, but unlike Slapshot you have never shown enough manners that I might tolerate a little profanity from you. I especially take offense when a low life like you refers to women's issues as profanities. I hope you talk like that in front of somebody like myself who very well might make you eat some of your teeth for talking that way.

If you want to participate in my discussions, you are on a zero tolerance policy regarding profanity. If you want to participate and you keep on cussing and getting yourself banned, that is solid evidence that you are not only an ignoramus as your name makes clear, but you are an idiot as well.

KNHav(1957) Disputed Banned
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The world doesn't make people bad, it's their choices that define them.

We are trees bearing fruit after our own kind. Our own kind eats the fruit of the trees they love its fruit.

The righteous do not like bad fruit. And the wicked do not like good fruit.

And everyone gets to choose which fruit they crave, and to eat from the trees their appetites crave!

Saintnow(3684) Clarified
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This has nothing to do with violence. Just watch the last ten minutes, from 34:30 please, I'm sure you will deeply appreciated it.

Atrag(5666) Clarified Banned
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go find some of your own business to mind. You don't want to repent of your sin and believe on Jesus to be saved from Hell, then don't. I'm done wasting time with your nasty face.

Oh wahhhhhh! Cry me a river. Youre the biggest bully here and I will continue to pay you back what you give. You go the church on Sunday and sing All Things Bright and Beautiful and think you have accepted Jesus hahahahha. You're the most unchristian person I have ever encountered.

KNHav(1957) Banned
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I didn't have time to listen except mini clips, but he may be right on.

Gen - curses enmity between woman and serpent

Seed against Seed

The woman in Revelations dragon tries to devour her children, unsuccessful he goes to war against the rest of her seed

1st murder - immediately serpent murders seed Abel

Then murder babies in Egypt, Moses spared

Then murder babies in Bethlehem, God hides Jesus in Egypt

Serpent even crafter now, he murders Seed before even born

Wake up, the Word of God is no lie!

Saintnow(3684) Disputed
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since you don't have ten minutes to listen to the last ten minutes of this video to get the main point, how do you find the time for the rambling typing you do or is it all copy and pasted from somewhere? I type around fifty wpm, if you type 100 you're still putting a lot of time into in unless you are copy and pasting your meanderings.

KNHav(1957) Clarified Banned
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actually I listened to the whole thing. He is on track 100 %

I bookmarked him and if his church was in my area Id join it!

KNHav(1957) Banned
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Who is he, I want to go to that church!

He is one who hears God's voice!

Saintnow, listen to Him. Seriously, what is the link. I want to see more of his stuff. This is the church that God will build in these last days. And from what I heard so far, this pastor is one of them.

My sheep hear My voice... you know when you hear it, through people, through His Word, it rings like a bell, and blows like a TRUMPET!

KNHav(1957) Banned
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Saintnow you are always trying to figure out what "religious sect" I am, this guy is on target 100%!

Well, this teacher is an example of one in the body of Christ.

This has been my understanding of God from the start. Even when I fell asleep.

So this is where Christians are headed in understanding, and God will call us to this. Not the hell fire guys. Its simply the Word, and follow the Word like it is the only Light, and every thing else every doctrine every tie to the world ... Doctrines are idols, churches are divisions. He want s us armed with the Word His Spirit and Oneness in the Spirit

And Nothing else!

Saintnow(3684) Disputed
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Jesus was what you would call a Hell fire guy. Maybe you haven't read the gospels, or maybe your fake Bible is one of those which removes the word Hell in many places while it removes thousands of other words, removes the blood, removes propitiation.

Jesus strongly told people they were children of Hell when those people opposed Him, He told them directly and bluntly that they are of their father the devil....and Jesus always meant Hell which burns with fire and brimstone when He talked about it.

He said that if we follow Him we should not be surprised that the world hates us the same as they hated Him. You re trying to be friendly with the world by being hush hush about Hell and compromising to say the Word of God is subject to preference of interpretation rather than an objective which cannot be changed. You need to burn those phony Bibles and speak of Hell the same as Jesus did or you are not following Jesus, you are following your own feelings trying to be friendly with the world which is enmity with God.

KNHav(1957) Disputed Banned
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Maybe you didnt understand much, maybe your one where the parables remained silent in giving understanding.

Maybe you need to wake uo so you can hear again, if you ever heard

KNHav(1957) Disputed Banned
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You know we are supposed to testify of Him And bring His Greatness to them. Aren't we?

Why are you drawn to this part of God. It seems like you are always sending people to Hell. It's like your a contender boxing faith into people.

I shared the coming judgements with people and said hey you guys this is how big God is, you may want to get over here!

KNHav(1957) Disputed Banned
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I'm focusing on the power of God they can likely see all around them. Your talking about a place they can't picture exists.

Jesus focused on the power of God and Hell is Eternal Fire and we don't exactly know what that means yet. We have light that was passed down from someone else's Revelations. It's not being responsible to just assume they had all the revelation.

But the focus needs to be on Salvation, and the realities of God and prophesies in all of our lives! We are supposed to testify of Him. But you have to be willing to look at Him! Your not looking up. On the rooftop don't go down to get your things!

Saintnow(3684) Disputed
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I can guess well enough by your doctrines what sects you affiliate with. You would fit right in with Reformed Baptists, Four Square, many of others

KNHav(1957) Disputed Banned
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No I wouldnt fit there at all!

You are clueless, I don't get it. But God know your heart.

Its like you hate people that are Christians.

I dont understand the darkness in you, it sounds like the light went on early on, and you took a direction of beating on people to condemnation, rather than using Gods Word.

You have to get rid of your idols!

You want God and people in a neat little box.

Im actually sad for you, its probably the Spirit in me weepiing for you!

Its sad!

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This never happened. Your preacher is lying. Isn't it said that you guys have faith in lies? Tell him to record the next atheist he convinces outside of an abortion clinic. He had saved 30 babies. Tell him to record saving baby 31 so you can see him in action. He likes being recorded, it shouldn't be a problem.

Saintnow(3684) Disputed
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prove it, idiot. What a jerk you are, sitting there in your fatness insulting everybody you disagree with, hiding behind that fat little icon acting like you are some kind of stupid machine. I know you have issues, serious ones, probably in a wheel chair stinking fat unable to bathe much, bitter at God and the world so you do all you can to destroy yourself by trying to destroy God.

Don't feel insulted by the truth. If I'm wrong about your personal issues, please tell me how. What is your problem that you hide back there, never being yourself, never showing who you are, just running your mouth mindlessly

SlapShot(2608) Disputed
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I admit to not watching the video, since I have always found the whole pro-choice/anti-choice thing pretty damn boring.

But.........Your attack on GoCart made me laugh, Saint.

I never pictured him as being old and fat. I always thought of him as a young--probably around 20; probably skinny, long-haired SoCal skater boi type. A sort of hi-IQ slacker; gamer; iconoclast; and of course, avid SouthPark fan.

Saint: you DO know that's where his icon comes from, right? The for-adults cartoon called SouthPark? That was on for about ten years and was some of the funniest shite ever, just like Boondockers and Archer and Family Guy? And before all that, Ren and Stimpy? (which I admit used to kinda disturb Slappy a little.)

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KNHav(1957) Disputed Banned
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You banned me, from the other debate. I'm not surprised.

Not sure, maybe you didn't even read enough to get anything from the Spirit.

You don't understand Hell.

And I don't either, but I do understand judgement a little, and I understand the fire and brimstone He is pouring out. And I understand the cup of wrath He is giving out to drink.

Drunken stupor in mid day!

The sun darkened ... blindness

That's Hell too

And let's worry about that Hell first!

KNHav(1957) Disputed Banned
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Years ago my friend had a friend who was scheduled for an abortion.

I shared with her, she was convinced to do it and was scheduled for her procedure.

I asked her if I could pray for her, that God would be with her through it, she shockingly said yes.

She went to her procedure, and they canceled it for some tests they ran. The girl was angry at me, because she knew God stopped it. No lie, no joke.

My friend gave me updates, maybe like every year or two she ran into her, her son growing. And her remembering the power of God that day.

The 1st reports were bitter and angry, but they changed to just loving her son and being his mommy!

Saintnow(3684) Disputed
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tell this to Slapshot......it's like the answered prayer in the last ten minutes of the subject video, Slappy is atheist and insists answered prayer never happens. Do something useful besides arguing with me.