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You go gal! Heartless monster !
Debate Score:102
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F*ck being pro-choice. I'm pro-abortion (serious)

I don't view abortion as a necessary evil. I actually fucking love it. I want abortions to happen. I want the growth of the earth's rapidly expanding population, which is currently predicted to reach an unsustainable 9.7 billion by 2050, to be curbed. I don't want to pay taxes for the  bastards born in to the socio-economic underclass of society who have unplanned pregnancies, especially teenage pregnancies that require government aid, especially seeing as we all know kids who are born like that grow up to be arseholes and don't contribute to society 99% of the time anyway. But most importantly, I love women being able to defy the patriarchy of the religitards and exercise bodily autonomy.

So there! I said it! I'm pro-abortion :D

You go gal!

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Heartless monster !

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Agreed. The more the merrier when it comes to abortion. So far, only good things have come from it.................

>>Hundreds of thousands less unwanted kids born into what are almost always broken or dysfunctional homes. Where they almost always simply continue to be non-contributors to society.

>>A lower crime rate. This was proven statistically when the violent crime rate in US big cities dropped drastically during the 18th thru the 22nd years AFTER Roe v Wade was passed. See? All those abortions never got the chance (Hallelujah!) to grow up to be violent criminals.

>>More happy women free to better their lives without the burden of an unwanted child which would have bogged them down financially and kept them from bettering themselves.

"If lovin' Abortion is wrong, then baby....I don't wanna be Right!"

LOL

SS

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Hearty(31) Disputed Banned
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Really? You think the solution to being in a dysfunctional family is murder? People can come out of those situations. And like you said, it took 18 years after Roe vs. Wade for the crime rate to drop. 18 years!!! That's WAY after. Crime rates do go up and down. If it was to do with abortion it would have happened WAY earlier. And if woman don't want the baby then they shouldn't be having sex. Should woman have a right to kill fully grown children just because they are a “burden" or don't want them anymore? There is no reasonable excuse to murder innocent children who will most likely make a positive contribution to this world.

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Although I prefer to express it in a more uhm... i guess sensitive way, I do agree with your principle.

Im not pro-abortion, but I do think overpopulation is an issue we should care very much about, and I honestly dont see the point of stopping people with unwanted pregnancies to give life to an unwanted child at the expense of another. I think we should deal with the children in poverty and hunger that are already here, instead of bringing more children into starvation.

Side: You go gal!
Jace(4757) Disputed
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I'm not enthusiastic about the perpetuation of life or humanity, so I ultimately land proximate to you and OP. But I'm going to push back a little on your argument, because you're more interesting than most to debate with here.

I think it's entirely plausible that a child who might otherwise have been aborted were it legal could nevertheless grow up being loved, feeling wanted, and in sufficiently comfortable socioeconomic conditions.

I'm also not convinced that most people who grew up feeling unwanted or in poverty would say they personally preferred not existing, so it doesn't seem like one could defend your position from their point of view and if we're defending it from our own I'm not sure why our view or preference is even relevant enough to be influential. Thoughts?

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But I'm going to push back a little on your argument, because you're more interesting than most to debate with here.

Thank you, and likewise.

What I mean with my argument is not that unwanted children can't be loved. What I meant is that the earth has only so many resources.

My question and critique to pro-life people is; why let an unwanted child into the world at the expense of another dying of hunger?

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Abortion clearly benefits society socially and economically. It just makes sense.

Side: You go gal!
Hearty(31) Disputed Banned
1 point

Please give proof for your statement. _

Side: Heartless monster !
0 points

Read the OP you moron

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0 points

Yah!! Vote Brexit!! Pro-Abortion!

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Hurray for being a horrible person!!

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i have never liked the terms pro-choice or pro-life .choice should be available in everything .life is good when it is chosen .but abortion is often the best option for a couple who does not want to be parents .why ruin 3 lives when you can ruin 0 ?i am pro-abortion, meaning the option should always be available to those who want it .

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Why can't adoption be one of those options ;)

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It is an option, and so should abortion .

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WhatIsDaAuck(273) Clarified
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who is the coward who down voted me ??????????????????????????

Side: You go gal!
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You can believe as you like but whether you can enact your wishes is another matter

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As long as the fetus hasn't developed sentience, knock yourself out honestly. At what point a fetus or embryo has became sentient should be up to the experts (doctors), as they themselves should know better than anybody. That's why often it is illegal to have abortions after about 4 or 5 months within the pregnancy.

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Hearty(31) Disputed Banned
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So you can only murder if the person is not sentient...where's the logic in that?

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KingGinger93(50) Disputed
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Actually no you can't because a non-sentient person is pretty much a corpse, you can't kill a corpse. I don't think you know what sentient means, sentient things are capable of thought and feelings, sentience is the difference between a being, and an inanimate object.

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Fear not. Trump is loading Washington up with retired Generals. He will, in the near future, reduce the population to stone age levels (or less), with an enormous "AFTER - BIRTH ABORTION"! (serious)!

Side: You go gal!
Hearty(31) Banned
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I can't believe you support murder! Murder is not a solution to an increasing population! I pray that God will fill your heart and you will understand how horribly wrong abortion us and always will be.

Side: Heartless monster !

you are a heartless monster because everyone should be forced to be parents whether they are ready or not !

Side: Heartless monster !
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1. Why do you think killing innocent human beings is right in your eyes?

2. Under what moral obligation do you stand to support the above question?

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SlapShot(2607) Disputed
1 point

Aborted fetuses are nor human beings.

And hell, if they're are aborted in the 1st Trimester they're not even fucking fetuses, but rather, only embryos, the size of your thumb and with no brain capable of experiencing pain or suffering.

Yawn. We have gone through all this before. Ad nauseum.

And besides, if you follow the claptrap about Original Sin and The Fall that the religious zealots spew, then those fetuses are not innocent either, right? Being they are condemned like all of us since that greedy bitch Eve had to scarf the apple in the garden.

LOL

Jeez....I feel my brain cells dying whenever I type bible quotes. How people can honestly believe in that shit I will never for the life of my understand.

SS

Side: You go gal!
KNHav(1957) Disputed
1 point

And now you are not a human being.

Daniel 4: 16

“Let his mind be changed from that of a man And let a beast’s mind be given to him, And let seven periods of time pass over him.

Romans 1: 28

28 And just as they did not see fit to acknowledge God any longer, God gave them over to a depraved mind, to do those things which are not proper,

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Srom(12202) Disputed
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Aborted fetuses are nor human beings.

Yes they are human beings.

And besides, if you follow the claptrap about Original Sin and The Fall that the religious zealots spew, then those fetuses are not innocent either, right? Being they are condemned like all of us since that greedy bitch Eve had to scarf the apple in the garden.

Not everyone is condemned. Only those who are of Christ aren't condemned. Those aborted human beings have the potential to not be condemned anyway.

Jeez....I feel my brain cells dying whenever I type bible quotes. How people can honestly believe in that shit I will never for the life of my understand.

You didn't even type a bible quote lol. People believe in it because it's changed their lives, and I know why people choose not to believe and all of the reasons that I've heard are just excuses.

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outlaw60(15501) Disputed
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You have perfectly described why you should have been aborted Progressive. Job well done dummy.

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Jace(4757) Disputed
1 point

1. What makes a person innocent? What makes life intrinsically valuable?

2. Why and from where does a moral obligation exist?

Side: You go gal!
Srom(12202) Disputed
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1. When someone didn't do anything wrong. Life is valuable because we are all bear the image of our Creator, and thus there is more to this life than just living in it.

2. Moral obligation comes from God. Apart from God, you're only creating your own set of morals but with no foundation to stand on.

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"I want the growth of the earth's rapidly expanding population, which is currently predicted to reach an unsustainable 9.7 billion by 2050, to be curbed. I don't want to pay taxes for the bastards born in to the socio-economic underclass of society who have unplanned pregnancies, especially teenage pregnancies that require government aid, especially seeing as we all know kids who are born like that grow up to be arseholes and don't contribute to society 99% of the time anyway. But most importantly, I love women being able to defy the patriarchy of the religitards and exercise bodily autonomy."

How big a fan are you of Margret Sanger ?

Side: Heartless monster !
2 points

I love the bitch

Side: You go gal!
outlaw60(15501) Disputed
1 point

If what you say it true then you are a racist and the mask is removed.

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KNHav(1957) Disputed
1 point

So is murder of the weak and defenseless the answer?

This sounds like the evolution god for sure.

Selective survival of the fittest. The evil of man who looks outwardly. The evilest hearts often look the "fittest"

But full of evil is the least fit of all!

Side: You go gal!
KNHav(1957) Disputed
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Is murder of the weak and defenseless the answer?

This mentality sounds like the evolution god for sure.

The facism of Hitler is this view.

So those people who think like this are a bunch of Hitlers!

Selective survival of the fittest. The evil of man who looks outwardly. The evilest hearts often look the "fittest"

But full of evil is the least fit of all!

Side: You go gal!
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I feel for you when God charges you with their blood spilled.

There are degrees of suffering reserved for you. And you self declare it on your own head.

Genesis 4

15 So the Lord said to him, “Therefore whoever kills Cain, vengeance will be taken on him sevenfold.” And the Lord appointed a sign for Cain, so that no one finding him would slay him.

16 Then Cain went out from the presence of the Lord, and settled in the land of Nod, east of Eden.

Cains 6th generation (man was made on day 6, Lamech doubles violence and is judge by math of exponential proportions! Maybe a connection?)

Genesis 4

19 Lamech took to himself two wives: the name of the one was Adah, and the name of the other, Zillah.

20 Adah gave birth to Jabal; he was the father of those who dwell in tents and have livestock.

21 His brother’s name was Jubal; he was the father of all those who play the lyre and pipe.

22 As for Zillah, she also gave birth to Tubal-cain, the forger of all implements of bronze and iron; and the sister of Tubal-cain was Naamah.

23 Lamech said to his wives,

“Adah and Zillah,

Listen to my voice,

You wives of Lamech,

Give heed to my speech,

For I have killed a man for wounding me;

And a boy for striking me;

24 If Cain is avenged sevenfold,

Then Lamech seventy-sevenfold.”

By measure of judgment you dish out, that is what you can expect in return!

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SlapShot(2607) Disputed
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Well, shit...I gotta admit that if anybody knew a shit-load about spilling blood it would be your Yahweh. Given the millions of innocents he has killed, or allowed to be murdered or raped.

So yeah, sweet pants, nice reference there! Good job. Pure gold! LOL

SS

Side: You go gal!
KNHav(1957) Disputed
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I see you ban when you realize your arguments are lame.

I guess you fear truth shining next to your darkness.

I get it those who love darkness cower away from light.

You are correct. He is going to judge and death penalty given!

God is truth, He is the only Judge who is all knowing and fair. He even knows the intent, and judges intention as well as crime.

He is going to judge and death penalty given!

And He will avenge all spilled blood that was spilled unjustly!

Like in babies, and Christians, and the Jews, and every unjust act will be judged by just measure, His measure. He will judge all body and soul!

Jesus purchased all the worlds dust from under judgement. Those born into slavery of judgment who chose a life under judgment, will receive a 2nd death. Its not double jeopardy, its fullfillment of sentencing, and also judgment for all crimes committed under slavery. Because they did not wash themselves, be born again, and made free in Him. They choose old death not new life.

In the end all will be joined with their dust.

And some will be like clean new clothes ready for a wedding feast. And others will be putting on filthy rags from stains of the world without cleansing.

That is the reality. The violence and blood shed is the heart of man. As beings who have eternal existence of soul, you see as man sees. God knows all those who lose their heads, He will reassemble them. And make them whole. Body and soul together, with a body raised and changed to be like Jesus. We will be like Him.

The brokenness of "death" was separation from God, and also "dust you shall return" hopeless man separated from clothing of a body. Jesus came to heal us and make us whole.

The question, when He returns to you your body of clothing, will those clothes be appropriate for His wedding feast, or will they be filthy rags in His sight?

Will they be white as snow cleansed by Jesus, or will they be dingy stained tattered rags not worthy of Him?

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Knowing and understanding the choices we make describes the difference between being ruled by the heart and ruled by reason. So, you are Pro-confession? What does your heart tell you about this confession we are making?

When a woman is able to defy and actual displays independence with a declaration that doesn’t incriminate others by using a confession I would consider the claim of autonomy.

Knowing a man’s place to assume a command only long enough to offer an ability to relieve a person from a patriarchy. I’m all for pro-choice, Gender Specific Amputation or Abortion what’s your choice?

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What if you were to get killed? That wouldn’t be very nice, would it?

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