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Future me or Past me? Who is present?

This debate is actually meant to prove another point that I haven't disclosed (yet).
So let's say future me and past me actually meet together face to face in any time (as long
as they are present together simultaneously).  The question is, who is actually present?  The future me
will say that I am present.  To him, he's not the future, he's just present and the other guy is a Past me.
But to Past me, he'll see it as he's the present, and future me is just from the future.   So then, who is
actually right?  

The answer to me is that they are both right.  It's all a matter of perspective and where you are coming from.
From Future me's point of view, he's not future.  He's present but he's looking at past me as the guy who is not present but past.  And Past me is seeing it the same way. He's the present, and he sees future me as not present but future!

Try to guess how this applies to modern day issues and situations.  I won't get into that here, but I believe this principle is very key to understanding something most people aren't aware of.
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You won't get into yet it's something that you think most people are unaware of?

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And we need to guess?

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The answer is cultural diffusion!

logicaljoe(529) Clarified
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It's a very simple concept. Take any issue in this world. Every thing has more than 1 side or viewpoint to it. But who is right? Who is actually the real viewpoint? The answer is, there is none. The winner is whoever is able to assert their willpower the most over all others. That's the viewpoint that wins.

For instance, black people think they are right, white people think they are right. What's the right answer? There is none. Islam thinks they are the way. Christians think they are the way. Western secular/capitalism thinks they are the way. Who is right? It all depends on which side you are coming from. I could be a muslim one day and decide that since I'm immersed in the muslim culture, I see the world through their eyes and now I believe this is the correct way and the rest of the world should follow. Then a day later, I could decide to be an atheist who loves capitalism and secularism and I can be immersed in that way of living and decide this is the true way and all others should adopt and follow this thinking. The point, everyone thinks that their view is the right view and the only way. In that case, there is only one thing left to decide it once and for all. Whoever wins the battle of asserting their will. That's it. Plain and simple. If you can assert your will over most of the world (or all of it), you win! No matter how stupid and silly your beliefs might be, if 90% of the world believe it, you are the winner and your views are right.

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...one more example.....I was watching Game of Thrones and it reminded me of this. What is a traitor? What makes someone a traitor? He is only a traitor based on the rules of your society that you created. But to another society, he may not be seen as a traitor but as a hero. Therefore, who is right? Is this man a traitor or is he a hero? The answer is there is no true or correct answer. He's a traitor if he lives in the society where the dumbass rules were enforced. But in another land, he would be seen and treated as a hero for defying that dumbass kingdom and their rules. It's all about perspective and which side you are on.

ProLogos(2794) Disputed
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I'm sick of hearing this "there's so many viewpoints so how do we tell which is right or wrong? Herpa derpa."

Pisses me off.

Perfectly valid when discussing opinions.

Invalid when the issues are about the causes and effects of things.