CreateDebate


Debate Info

80
20
Yes, it should be permitted No, only hetero should marry
Debate Score:100
Arguments:49
Total Votes:129
More Stats

Argument Ratio

side graph
 
 Yes, it should be permitted (36)
 
 No, only hetero should marry (13)

Debate Creator

rainbow56(14) pic



Gay Marriage

I thinl love and affection are the same, for gays and for heteros. If procreation is an issue, why they don't forbid marriage to sterile and old hetero couples? We shouldn't discriminate love and affection.

Yes, it should be permitted

Side Score: 80
VS.

No, only hetero should marry

Side Score: 20
3 points

I don't see why it shouldn't be permitted. Seems to me that the only reason anyone has that it shouldn't be allowed is that the "bible says it" but if we are going to base all our laws off of what the bible says, shouldn't we also be stoning people for committing adultery, killing children for disrespecting their parents, and not allowing women to teach, speak, or even think for themselves?

Seems to me like the opposition should take some time to rethink their position, among other things.....

Side: Yes, it should be permitted
2 points

I have no problem with gay marriage. I don't understand why some people are against it...it is not like you are getting married to a homosexual person.

This shouldn't be a big issue.

Side: Yes, it should be permitted
2 points

" 'Sexual orientation' does not constitute a quality comparable to race, ethnic background, etc., in respect to nondiscrimination. Therefore, it is not unjust, for example, to limit the bond of marriage to the union of a woman and a man. It is not unjust to oppose granting to homosexual couples benefits that in justice should belong to marriage alone. When marriage is redefined so as to make other relationships equivalent to it, the institution of marriage is devalued and further weakened. The weakening of this basic institution at all levels and by various forces has already exacted too high a social cost." i have no problem with gay marriage.We must equally respect their relationship like how we respect our relationship.I guess I just don't understand how people can be so passionately hateful about something that won't affect their lives one bit.

Side: Yes, it should be permitted
2 points

Of course. If you don't like it, then don't get one. Alcohol is legalized but that doesn't mean that we all should drink one. If you don't like it, then don't. If you do, do it without harming others. Very simple logic, but apparently very hard to grasp.

Side: Yes, it should be permitted
2 points

I agree. It should be permitted. Love is love. no matter what age, gender, race, or sexual orientation.

Side: Yes, it should be permitted
churchmouse(328) Disputed
2 points

So then you are all for an adult/child love relationship even when it involves sex. Right?

Love no matter who it hurts.

Love in an adulterous relationship

Pedophelia love

Incest and love

Love between groups of people.......who want relationships like that of traditional marriages.......

All love is good?

Side: No, only hetero should marry
1 point

Gay people are always going to be gay. Many gays want to get married, so why not let them? They're just going to protest and cause problems if it's made illegal. People act like if we let gays get married then everyone is going to turn gay.

Side: Yes, it should be permitted
1 point

Marriage is more of a social and cultural thing now than religious so the Bible is holding less and less weight in the argument. If homosexuals love one another as heterosexuals do, they shoould be able to celebrate their love for one another in a meaningful way.

Just because it isn't the norm, and it doesn't bode well for the human race does not mean it is wrong and homosexuals shouldn't be allowed to marry. In fact it is because it isn't the norm that it's ok. Just because gay marriage is allwoed doesn't mean everyone is going to become gay and children will cease to enter the world.

And if the Bible does say these things then surely gay marriage is acceptable, they're the ones who'll be punished not you so why do you care?

Side: Yes, it should be permitted
1 point

First of all the present consequences.. Being gay is legal in most of the nations. Second... When you question their existence you insult them, N no one really likes that. Besides... There are bigger issues today that need attention instead of quarreling over the harmless relationship. If it seems inappropriate to you, you can stay out of it.

Side: Yes, it should be permitted
churchmouse(328) Disputed
1 point

I don't question anyones existence...I do however question what is right and wrong and how it might affect me.

Do you want to live next door to a whore house? Strip club? How about a landfill?

Ones beliefs sometimes are insulting but that does not mean that we are not aloud to have them. I believe that homosexual sex is not natural. If that hurts someone I am sorry, but it is my belief. I have never said things to be political correct, but to share my belief system honestly.

I believe that allowing gays to marry would harm society in the long run. I think its a very important issue.

Side: No, only hetero should marry
casper3912(1581) Disputed
1 point

Can you state your reasons for your beliefs?

In what manner would allowing homosexual marriage harm society in the long run?

Side: Yes, it should be permitted

Government shouldn't decide on who gets married to whom. This is an individual decision. Besides marriage has been historically an church ritual.

Side: Yes, it should be permitted

I just wish Jesus would make his second coming and clarify if homosexuality is wrong or not. Im dying to know if God hate homosexuality or not.

Side: Yes, it should be permitted
1 point

Let the religious establishments keep their outdated rules and regulations concerning the ever advancing and evolving entity which is the human race, eventually they will govern no one as more and more people realize their flawed system and lack of truth. Let’s not let it have control any longer.

I move for an option that enables any couple to be united if they choose to. Let the state write a document that joins them in this case and do away with the goofy ceremonies and ancient traditions that are older than grave dust.

Or better yet, let us recognize marriage and other outdated “laws” and traditions as what they are, restrictions prescribed during a time when everything from the sun to human psychology was misunderstood. Why do we feel the need to marry in the first place? Save for the laws restricting unmarried couples in certain situations, aren’t they just public announcements anyway? Couldn’t these laws be changed to fit our culture as we see fit and as we grow and change over the millennia?

Side: Yes, it should be permitted

It is retarded to even vote to allow gay marriage or not. I support it but there is no reason to be against it. To me, it is like if my mom stops me from eating fruit loops and say: "Gay marriage is now legal." I will be like "who cares?" and look at her in weird way. lol

Im not negative towards the issue at all. But it is stupid to discuss it when it is obviously it is the right thing to do to allow anybody to get married.

This is what makes us ignorant to even have to vote to make it legal or not. Make it illegal and i will be dissapointed. But the fact that we have to vote when it is obviously right to allow it is pure ignorance. Sorry no disrespect. :)

Side: Yes, it should be permitted
1 point

I don't care... As long as you don't bug me!

Side: Yes, it should be permitted
1 point

Marriage should be allowed regardless of the participants gender. The only things I can think of to disallow marriage are age and consent. Marriage is about the people getting married, strangers not approving in a marriage should not even be a factor to be considered. Also, a lot of people like to include religion in this argument. With so many different beliefs, I think it should be left out, but as a Christian, isn't it taught that God loves everyone? and that Jesus says not to judge? So, why shouldn't God approve, and who is one person to decide another person's orientation?

Side: Yes, it should be permitted
1 point

The separation of church and state is not evident at all in the idea that gay marriage should be illegal. People who are religious are trying to inflict their beliefs that gays are automatically sinners just because they happen to like their same sex onto everyone else, including children. We fought a deadly civil war in order to make it so our children won't grow up to be prejudiced against people who don't look the same as us. Should we really discriminate against people who are the same as us but just like their same gender romantically?

Side: Yes, it should be permitted
1 point

It seems that the only real argument against gay marriage is because the bible says it is wrong. That is your personal belief and your personal opinion, don't force it on to others. The bible says homosexuality is a sin and you extend this to say that gay marriage should not be allowed. Fine, don't get married to someone of the same gender as you.

No one's forcing you to marry someone of the same gender. If your personal belief system tells you that it is wrong then fine, don't have same-sex partners. That doesn't mean you need to go around inflicting your dogma onto the general population.

Now, you cannot possibly say that it is immoral and then quote the bible. Blind obedience to ancient texts is about as far away from morality as you can get. The bible isn't a moral code just because it holds conservative view points.

--------------------------------------------------------------

If the bible really was a source of infallible morals, then it should be perfectly moral to:

Sell one's daughters as sex slaves (Exodus 21:7-11)

Kill adulterers (Leviticus 20:10)

Kill blasphemers (Leviticus 24:10-16)

Rape women (Isaiah 13:15-18)

Kill women, babies and children (Isaiah 14:21), (Hosea 9:11-16), (Ezekiel 9:5-7), (Exodus 12:29-30), (Isaiah 13:15-18).

-------------------------------------------------------------

Morality should be something which can be discussed with reason, logic and evidence. There is no logical reason why homosexuality is wrong. By denying homosexuals the right to marry you are creating a second class of people; you are discriminating against them by saying that they are not worthy of long-term, legally recognised relationships, yet heterosexuals are.

Side: Yes, it should be permitted
1 point

Personally, I think love is equal, whether is in the form of a man and a woman, a man with a man, or a woman with a woman.

Not to be judgmental, but one Christian belief is that God loves everyone, we are all his children.

Then when you turn on the TV, you see the very same people who believe that God loves everyone start riots about the gay marriage law passed. They keep saying that being homosexual is a sin, and an abomination.

As a wise man once told me: That issue is between that person and God. Its not our job to tell people what they should and shouldn't do with their life. If that person has sinned, then let them take it up with the Lord himself.

I'm not trying to be biased about the Christian faith, just the two things seem to go hand and hand with each other.

Side: Yes, it should be permitted

It is now 2015 and the Supreme Court has made Gay Marriage the law of the land.

Side: Yes, it should be permitted
1 point

No it shouldnt be allowed. Marriage is when man and women get married. In the Bible it says that its a sin for marrying your same gender and its a immoral sin. Look at the animals they have one male and one female you dont see 2 male horse with each other or any other animals. Look at the example animals make learn from them.

Side: No, only hetero should marry
imrigone(761) Disputed
6 points

Look at the animals they have one male and one female you dont see 2 male horse with each other or any other animals.

Not true. Over 1500 species observed that show some kind of homosexual activity, with numerous cases of gay life bonding pairs.

http://www.livescience.com/2534-sex-couples-common-wild.html

furthermore, different species seem to do it for different reasons:

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/06/090616122106.htm

Side: Yes, it should be permitted
Srom(12206) Disputed
0 points

Those links have nothing to do with gay animnals those links are not true

Side: No, only hetero should marry
1 point

Here it says in the Bible why it is wrong.

Levitcus 18:22:You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination

Levitcus 20:13"If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; they shall surely be put to death. Their bloodguiltness is upon them"

1st Corthians 6:9-10:Or do you not know that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, 10nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, shall inherit the kingdom of God."

Romans 1:26-28:For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural, 27and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error. 28And just as they did not see fit to acknowledge God any longer, God gave them over to a depraved mind, to do those things which are not proper."

Side: No, only hetero should marry
Peekaboo(704) Disputed
5 points

You've argued that the Bible says homosexuality is wrong. This doesn't convince anyone who isn't a Christian.

Side: Yes, it should be permitted
Srom(12206) Disputed
1 point

Well its the same thing gay marrriage and homosexuality. If you get married to a homo its still gay marriage and once your done your a homosexual

Side: No, only hetero should marry
casper3912(1581) Disputed
2 points

I shall quote from the honest book of truth why it is right:

"The grey face has attempted to domineer over our pineal glands to an extraordinary extent."

"The law of five grants you the content you are looking for...".

Ah ha, well then, it must be true that homosexuality is OK, even good.

Seriously though, care to make a real argument?

Side: Yes, it should be permitted
CJames(16) Disputed
2 points

The logical fallacy is clear:

Theology X says Y

Theology X is True

There Y is true.

See how this is begging the question? Your conclusion and premises are pretty much the same:

Christainity condemns homosexuality

Chhristainity is the only source of true morals

Therefore we should condemn homosexuality.

Please provide logical, fact supported arguments.

Side: Yes, it should be permitted
sierraxy(59) Disputed
2 points

five words for you-SEPARATION OF RELIGION AND STATE

you cannot make it illegal for gays to marry just because your precious bible says so. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But not everybody likes your opinion.

And your opinion can't be made into law.

Sorry little religious angel!

Side: Yes, it should be permitted
chatturgha(1630) Disputed
1 point

Srom, I care about your well being. I would advise that you seek help immediately. I once had a friend when I was child, and he was the most devotely religious person I knew. I was okay with him, even though all he yammered about all day were passages from the Bible. Little did I know that the reason he cared so much about religion was because he had some sort of psychological problem.

To make a long story short, he killed himself.

The more I read the things you say, the more I'm worried about you.

No, I am not joking. Please go and find some help for whatever depression you are experiencing, and not from a religious pastor! From a doctor! They are the only ones that can really help you!

Side: Yes, it should be permitted
1 point

Not everything that the bible says is wrong should be illegal -

Cursing your parents - Exodus 21:17, performing magic - Exodus 22:18, working on Saturday - Exodus 31:14, eating shellfish - Deuteronomy 14:9-10

Side: Yes, it should be permitted
1 point

i'm not with gay marige because what really riled him was divorce.

Side: No, only hetero should marry

If you allow marriage between anyone other than one man and one woman....then you must allow marriage between anything, especially groups of people. Is that in the best interest of society as a whole? I do not think so. Marriage has always been between the basic family unit...one mother, one father who produce children.

Side: No, only hetero should marry
1 point

If you allow marriage between anyone other than one man and one woman....then you must allow marriage between anything, especially groups of people.

It is not true that it must follow. In fact, the list of countries that recognize same-sex marriages and civil unions is nearly 100% exclusionary with the list of countries that allow polygamy.

More than 30 countries allow same-sex marriage or civil unions, and only one of those (South Africa) also allows polygamy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Same-sex_marriage

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_status_of_polygamy

Side: Yes, it should be permitted
1 point

SURE!!! Let them marry! Just not in churches, and don't allow priests to be Gay.If they are,remove their title! Al matters solved.

Side: No, only hetero should marry
2 points

Close. Let them marry and have the same government benefits, but let the church decide who its priests are.

Side: Yes, it should be permitted
0 points

Also marriage is between one man and one women. It shouldnt be a man and a man or women and a women that is wrong

Side: No, only hetero should marry
imrigone(761) Disputed
2 points

hey srom1883, you should start providing arguments when you downvote someone. If you disagree with what they say, you probably have a reason why, and we'd like to hear it.

Side: Yes, it should be permitted
casper3912(1581) Disputed
2 points

Can you support your opinion with an argument?

You are on a debate site after all.

Side: Yes, it should be permitted
Darksider(39) Disputed
2 points

You do know that "women" is plural right? You don't have "one women" you have "one woman".

Learn fucking English.

Side: Yes, it should be permitted

Yes! You are so true! The Bible is the only true book that will remain true forever. Great job on the debate! You should be a pastor.

Side: No, only hetero should marry
imrigone(761) Disputed
2 points

Please support and verify.

I mean, if the Bible is 100% true, well then, what it says should be visible everywhere right? It shouldn't take but a second or two to find extra-biblical support, right?

Side: Yes, it should be permitted
0 points

i chose this because gay marrige is worng lolololol right lucas and harvey love each other

Side: No, only hetero should marry