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Gay conversion therapy?
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immoral. how tf is being gay so harmful to people the fucking pope tells people to respect the lgbtq+ community Pope Francis’s comments occurred in a documentary about his life titled “Francesco,” which premiered in Rome. In the film, the pontiff said that gay individuals are “children of God and have a right to a family. Nobody should be thrown out, or be made miserable because of it [their sexuality].” THE FUCKING POPE THE HIGHEST PERSON IN THE CHURCH HIERARCHY AGREES THAT TOLERANCE AND RESPECT IS A THING. like bro we get it you dint like us and most of us respect that opinion but that doesn't give anyone the right to put anyone in conversion therapy. be a decent human being you religion doesn't give you an excuse too disrespect people (respectfully) Side: Immoral
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Gay conversion therapy is immoral psuedo-science. God wants us to accept same sex marriages. Side: Immoral
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You are correct. There is evidence that gays are doing this back now too. Therefore, they are immoral and we are moral in making them see that heterosexuality is natural. Marriage and true love is only between a real man and a real woman. "Sciencerules" and the weeb have no evidence sufficient enough to support themselves. They have failed themselves in society and humanity itself. We will do more than convert them. We will need to put them down and in asylums. Side: Moral
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Hypocrisy seems to be your best thing eh? Pathetic. You are weak and unacceptable in society. You belong in an asylum. You seriously need help. Defining from your name, you are hypocritical and a snowflake, suffering from schizophrenia. Isn't that right, Dr. Batman? Side: Moral
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You belong in an asylum. Lol. You literally think The Justice League is real and you're switching between four different alt accounts just to pretend there's another person in the world who agrees with anything you say. Shut the fuck up you absolutely mad bastard. Nobody cares what you think because you're boring and stupid. Side: Immoral
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You are a repressed transsexualist hypocritical sexist retard. You are a snowflake and unlike you, Dr. Batman accepts he is a man and his real girlfriend accepts she is a real woman. You are a hypocrite and you are a failure in life. You only have yourself to blame. There are only 2 genders; male and female. Side: Moral
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You go against your own logic. Once they see gay supporters such as yourself going against your own word, they would and will take you down for it. Homosexuals are indeed subjectable to crime and you are one of them. I am happy to be super heterosexual and so is Dr. Batman, Green Arrow, Flash, Wonder Woman, Dr. Fate and even Superman. They are all heterosexual. You are heterophobic and I will silence you just as Dr. Batman does. Side: Moral
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On the contrary, I will not because you are a lunatic and a terrorist. You are an unintellectual retarded snowflake. Listen here, you retard. Threaten me again and I will bring more and more Justice League members online to stop you. Do it. I dare you. You will not see the light of day. Your hypocrisy has gone over the line. You are hereby banned from all forums. Side: Moral
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All of your arguments will be denounced. The Justice League doesn't support "social justice" as that is hypocritical and crosses many lines. You are a snowflake and a liar. The Justice League also doesn't support pride and pedophilia, once they see the truth behind all of the drag queens which is exactly what you support. The Justice League supports facts. You don't. Your hypocrisy has been exposed. Everytime you speak, the members of the JLA and the JSA will stop you because you hold no facts. More evidence of hypocrisy from Lgbt. Their agenda is clear: Get rid of "gay conversion therapy", meaning gay to straight but allowing conversion from straight to gay or queer or whatever. HYPOCRISY EXPOSED! Their main targets: Kids Their secondary targets: Adults So far, they are failing. We will not let them win. God prevails! Pretty much every original Justice League member knows, marriage and true love is only between a real man and a real woman.
Supporting Evidence:
Lgbt movements dangerous hypocrisy towards conversion therapy ban but allowing another in it's place....lgbt's own conversion agenda to turn youth into one of them
(www.thegospelcoalition.org)
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All of your arguments will be denounced. You'll denounce nothing. You're a grown man who pretends to be a woman. God is watching and he sees your deception. He sees when you put on your mother's dresses and touch yourself in the bathroom. God will punish your hypocrisy by sending you to hell. Side: Immoral
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We can and we will denounce you for breaking the law and for supporting pedophilic joker clowns, drag queens as well as senseless hypocrites who want nothing to do with listening to respectful, logical people with common sense. They instead want to spread AIDS/HIV. You do not care about the health and safety of the people, not even your own? Wow. That sounds like insanity to me. I am going to have to leave, get the police and step back in to make this arrest myself before the Detective does it for me. There are indeed only two genders; male and female. Your arguments, as Dr. Batman has said are absolutely morally correct, universally. Side: Moral
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The Story: Supporters of the LGBT movement are working to ban one form of conversion therapy on minors while endorsing another. The Background: Earlier this week, the Virginia House of Delegates passed a bill to end conversion therapy for minors. The state of Utah also recently passed a similar law. To date, 18 other states have passed similar bans. The Utah law adds conversion therapy to a list of practices considered to be “unprofessional conduct” for state-licensed mental health therapists. Punishments could include suspending or revoking their license, according to state law. The new rule does not apply to clergy members or religious counselors acting in a “religious capacity,” nor does it apply to parents or grandparents “acting substantially in the capacity of a parent or grandparent and not in the capacity of a mental health therapist.” Last fall the Utah ban received support from the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. In a statement on the Utah Psychologist Licensing Act Rule, the LDS church issued a statement saying, “The Church denounces any therapy, including conversion and reparative therapies, that subject an individual to abusive practices, not only in Utah, but throughout the world.” By implying that all conversion therapies are abusive, the LDS church has adopted the position of LGBT advocacy groups. For example, in 1998, the American Psychiatric Association (APA) formally issued a statement opposing psychiatric treatment “based upon the assumption that homosexuality per se is a mental disorder or based upon the a priori assumption that a patient should change his/her sexual homosexual orientation” and describes attempts to change a person’s sexual orientation by practitioners as unethical. Why It Matters: Is sexual orientation fixed or fluid? For LGBT activists, the answer depends on what position most benefits their cause. When it comes to conversion therapy to change sexual orientation, the LGBT lobby claims that homosexuality is immutable and cannot be changed. Yet in other contexts they claim that sexual orientation is fluid, especially in adolescence. “Far from being a fixed preference,” notes Carly Cassella of Science Alerts, “the findings [of a recent large long-term study] suggest that sexual identity and attraction undergo extensive and often subtle changes throughout a person’s life, continuing long past adolescence and into adulthood, with women showing slightly more fluidity than men.” If sexual orientation is fluid, then it seems reasonable that some minors would seek therapy to change unwanted sexual feelings. And indeed, until the LGBT lobby intervened, the psychiatric community largely agreed. In 1973, the APA famously removed homosexuality as a mental disorder from its Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders. It was initially replaced in 1980 by the classification of “Ego Dystonic Homosexuality,” characterized by having a sexual orientation or an attraction at odds with one’s idealized self-image, causing anxiety and a desire to change one’s orientation or become more comfortable with one’s sexual orientation. In the 1987 revision of the DSM, this classification was removed for political reasons. “In so doing, the APA implicitly accepted a normal variant view of homosexuality in a way that had not been possible fourteen years earlier,” says Jack Drescher, in a 2015 journal article for Behavioral Sciences. As Drescher points out, critics contended that if ego dystonic homosexuality was allowed as a classification, all kinds of identity disturbances could be considered psychiatric disorders: “’Should people of color unhappy about their race be considered mentally ill?’ critics asked. What about short people unhappy about their height?” Ironically, many of those same critics who opposed changing one’s feeling to match their preferred sexual orientation now support changing one’s body to match a person’s preferred gender identity. Admittedly, some forms of reparative therapy conducted on minors were harmful and abusive. But few forms were as harmful and abusive as the “treatments” for gender dysphoria, such as destroying sexual function and fertility through hormones, or surgically removing genitals or breasts. Studies have also shown that between 65 percent to 94 percent of children who initially identify as transgender identify with their birth gender by the time they are adults. Yet LGBT activists say we should ignore such findings and promote irreversible “conversion therapies.” As journalist Madeline Kearns points out, A study published in 2017 in the Journal of Sexual Medicine entitled “Age Is Just a Number” endeavored to investigate “WPATH-affiliated surgeons’ views, experiences, and attitudes toward performing vaginoplasty,” i.e., castration, inversion of the penis, and dilation of a cavity to form a pseudo-vaginal canal, “on transgender minors in the United States.” (WPATH is the World Professional Association for Transgender Health.) Of 20 surgeons who were interviewed, eleven reported having done the procedure “1 to 20” times on children under age 18. The youngest patient was 15. One surgeon gave an indication as to why this might be a bad idea. He or she described the new clinical landscape as a “new Wild West” where “a bunch of solo practitioners, basically cowboys or cowgirls who kind of build their little house, advertise and suck people in.” In the U.K., the Times of London has covered a whistleblower scandal at Britain’s main clinic for gender-confused youth, from which multiple clinicians have resigned, citing dangerous, experimental, and inadequate care. Whether conversion therapy for minors to change sexual orientation is helpful or harmful is debatable. It’s also unclear whether that should be the primary option for Christians struggling with same-sex attraction. As TGC Council member Russell Moore has said, instead of depending on psychologists for a cure for same-sex attraction, those with homosexual inclinations should look to Jesus and the gospel for the strength to withstand their particular temptation to sin. “The Bible doesn’t promise us freedom from temptation,” Moore said. “The Bible promises us the power of the spirit to walk through temptation.” Christians who support conversion therapy for sexual orientation should nevertheless be willing to oppose forms that have proven the be dangerous and destructive. Similarly, LGBT supporters who oppose conversion therapies for sexual orientation should be logically consistent and oppose conversion therapies for children with gender dysphoria. The hypocrisy supporting such dangerous “treatments” is morally repugnant, and the harm they are doing to children cannot be undone. Side: Moral
Repeating hypocrisy to yourself is quite your skill. I will continue to denounce you for your transgressive lies and tranny tendencies. You will be wiped clean off the face of the earth. Males and females will live happily ever after. There are only 2 genders; male and female. There is no inbetween. Marriage and true love is only between a real man and a real woman. Side: Moral
The Story: Supporters of the LGBT movement are working to ban one form of conversion therapy on minors while endorsing another. The Background: Earlier this week, the Virginia House of Delegates passed a bill to end conversion therapy for minors. The state of Utah also recently passed a similar law. To date, 18 other states have passed similar bans. The Utah law adds conversion therapy to a list of practices considered to be “unprofessional conduct” for state-licensed mental health therapists. Punishments could include suspending or revoking their license, according to state law. The new rule does not apply to clergy members or religious counselors acting in a “religious capacity,” nor does it apply to parents or grandparents “acting substantially in the capacity of a parent or grandparent and not in the capacity of a mental health therapist.” Last fall the Utah ban received support from the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. In a statement on the Utah Psychologist Licensing Act Rule, the LDS church issued a statement saying, “The Church denounces any therapy, including conversion and reparative therapies, that subject an individual to abusive practices, not only in Utah, but throughout the world.” By implying that all conversion therapies are abusive, the LDS church has adopted the position of LGBT advocacy groups. For example, in 1998, the American Psychiatric Association (APA) formally issued a statement opposing psychiatric treatment “based upon the assumption that homosexuality per se is a mental disorder or based upon the a priori assumption that a patient should change his/her sexual homosexual orientation” and describes attempts to change a person’s sexual orientation by practitioners as unethical. Why It Matters: Is sexual orientation fixed or fluid? For LGBT activists, the answer depends on what position most benefits their cause. When it comes to conversion therapy to change sexual orientation, the LGBT lobby claims that homosexuality is immutable and cannot be changed. Yet in other contexts they claim that sexual orientation is fluid, especially in adolescence. “Far from being a fixed preference,” notes Carly Cassella of Science Alerts, “the findings [of a recent large long-term study] suggest that sexual identity and attraction undergo extensive and often subtle changes throughout a person’s life, continuing long past adolescence and into adulthood, with women showing slightly more fluidity than men.” If sexual orientation is fluid, then it seems reasonable that some minors would seek therapy to change unwanted sexual feelings. And indeed, until the LGBT lobby intervened, the psychiatric community largely agreed. In 1973, the APA famously removed homosexuality as a mental disorder from its Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders. It was initially replaced in 1980 by the classification of “Ego Dystonic Homosexuality,” characterized by having a sexual orientation or an attraction at odds with one’s idealized self-image, causing anxiety and a desire to change one’s orientation or become more comfortable with one’s sexual orientation. In the 1987 revision of the DSM, this classification was removed for political reasons. “In so doing, the APA implicitly accepted a normal variant view of homosexuality in a way that had not been possible fourteen years earlier,” says Jack Drescher, in a 2015 journal article for Behavioral Sciences. As Drescher points out, critics contended that if ego dystonic homosexuality was allowed as a classification, all kinds of identity disturbances could be considered psychiatric disorders: “’Should people of color unhappy about their race be considered mentally ill?’ critics asked. What about short people unhappy about their height?” Ironically, many of those same critics who opposed changing one’s feeling to match their preferred sexual orientation now support changing one’s body to match a person’s preferred gender identity. Admittedly, some forms of reparative therapy conducted on minors were harmful and abusive. But few forms were as harmful and abusive as the “treatments” for gender dysphoria, such as destroying sexual function and fertility through hormones, or surgically removing genitals or breasts. Studies have also shown that between 65 percent to 94 percent of children who initially identify as transgender identify with their birth gender by the time they are adults. Yet LGBT activists say we should ignore such findings and promote irreversible “conversion therapies.” As journalist Madeline Kearns points out, A study published in 2017 in the Journal of Sexual Medicine entitled “Age Is Just a Number” endeavored to investigate “WPATH-affiliated surgeons’ views, experiences, and attitudes toward performing vaginoplasty,” i.e., castration, inversion of the penis, and dilation of a cavity to form a pseudo-vaginal canal, “on transgender minors in the United States.” (WPATH is the World Professional Association for Transgender Health.) Of 20 surgeons who were interviewed, eleven reported having done the procedure “1 to 20” times on children under age 18. The youngest patient was 15. One surgeon gave an indication as to why this might be a bad idea. He or she described the new clinical landscape as a “new Wild West” where “a bunch of solo practitioners, basically cowboys or cowgirls who kind of build their little house, advertise and suck people in.” In the U.K., the Times of London has covered a whistleblower scandal at Britain’s main clinic for gender-confused youth, from which multiple clinicians have resigned, citing dangerous, experimental, and inadequate care. Whether conversion therapy for minors to change sexual orientation is helpful or harmful is debatable. It’s also unclear whether that should be the primary option for Christians struggling with same-sex attraction. As TGC Council member Russell Moore has said, instead of depending on psychologists for a cure for same-sex attraction, those with homosexual inclinations should look to Jesus and the gospel for the strength to withstand their particular temptation to sin. “The Bible doesn’t promise us freedom from temptation,” Moore said. “The Bible promises us the power of the spirit to walk through temptation.” Christians who support conversion therapy for sexual orientation should nevertheless be willing to oppose forms that have proven the be dangerous and destructive. Similarly, LGBT supporters who oppose conversion therapies for sexual orientation should be logically consistent and oppose conversion therapies for children with gender dysphoria. The hypocrisy supporting such dangerous “treatments” is morally repugnant, and the harm they are doing to children cannot be undone. Side: Moral
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It's an absolute statistical fact that Batman wears his mother's dresses and fantasizes about stroking throbbing man meat. He wants to be Harley Quinn because he yearns to have his bottom ogled by Will Smith. He's a typical Republican hypocrite who campaigns against homosexual rights by day, while he spends his nights having his nipples squeezed in gay bars by drunken construction workers. His gay yearnings will be denounced and his protests will be invalidated. Side: Immoral
You are hereby denounced again by your own hypocritical and flawed deception. You go against yourself, transgressive abomination. You are a transsexual and you like it. Except, you go against God and I will annihilate you personally. I am happy to be a man and btw, I never denied my gender by birth. I am a man biologically. You are indenial now of more facts and truth. You have falsely lied to a fellow man in society. I am masculine compared to you and I have a real woman whom I am dating. You are a transgressive individual and you are guilty of crimes against humanity. You are a tranny and you will be shot on this hill over infinite times. Cry me a river and get over it. Your arguments are all senseless and therefore, invalidated. Side: Moral
Your continued self-destructive behavior exposes you as the tranny in question. I accept myself as a man and yet you use alts to lie lie lie. I am armed with the truth and I have real friends and a real girlfriend who happens to be a real biological female. I am a real biological male. Your arguments will further be denounced and everytime you deny it and "denounce me", you deny the facts against yourself. You are guilty of transgressing against another man and you are a guilty feminazi. You are sexist. You are a retard who supports trannies taking over schools. While I have never identified as a tranny and never will. Therefore, your arguments are invalidated. This bash will continue to denounce all of your lies. The Justice League will wipe you out. Side: Moral
Repeating yourself about "stfu" is snowflakish and I will say, you have repeated yourself many times, showing that you are offended by many facts. This bash will continue to destroy you and your senseless nonsense. Your insanity is exposed and I will continue to expose you and you will be executed by the truth and only the truth. God prevails! Side: Moral
The Story: Supporters of the LGBT movement are working to ban one form of conversion therapy on minors while endorsing another. The Background: Earlier this week, the Virginia House of Delegates passed a bill to end conversion therapy for minors. The state of Utah also recently passed a similar law. To date, 18 other states have passed similar bans. The Utah law adds conversion therapy to a list of practices considered to be “unprofessional conduct” for state-licensed mental health therapists. Punishments could include suspending or revoking their license, according to state law. The new rule does not apply to clergy members or religious counselors acting in a “religious capacity,” nor does it apply to parents or grandparents “acting substantially in the capacity of a parent or grandparent and not in the capacity of a mental health therapist.” Last fall the Utah ban received support from the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. In a statement on the Utah Psychologist Licensing Act Rule, the LDS church issued a statement saying, “The Church denounces any therapy, including conversion and reparative therapies, that subject an individual to abusive practices, not only in Utah, but throughout the world.” By implying that all conversion therapies are abusive, the LDS church has adopted the position of LGBT advocacy groups. For example, in 1998, the American Psychiatric Association (APA) formally issued a statement opposing psychiatric treatment “based upon the assumption that homosexuality per se is a mental disorder or based upon the a priori assumption that a patient should change his/her sexual homosexual orientation” and describes attempts to change a person’s sexual orientation by practitioners as unethical. Why It Matters: Is sexual orientation fixed or fluid? For LGBT activists, the answer depends on what position most benefits their cause. When it comes to conversion therapy to change sexual orientation, the LGBT lobby claims that homosexuality is immutable and cannot be changed. Yet in other contexts they claim that sexual orientation is fluid, especially in adolescence. “Far from being a fixed preference,” notes Carly Cassella of Science Alerts, “the findings [of a recent large long-term study] suggest that sexual identity and attraction undergo extensive and often subtle changes throughout a person’s life, continuing long past adolescence and into adulthood, with women showing slightly more fluidity than men.” If sexual orientation is fluid, then it seems reasonable that some minors would seek therapy to change unwanted sexual feelings. And indeed, until the LGBT lobby intervened, the psychiatric community largely agreed. In 1973, the APA famously removed homosexuality as a mental disorder from its Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders. It was initially replaced in 1980 by the classification of “Ego Dystonic Homosexuality,” characterized by having a sexual orientation or an attraction at odds with one’s idealized self-image, causing anxiety and a desire to change one’s orientation or become more comfortable with one’s sexual orientation. In the 1987 revision of the DSM, this classification was removed for political reasons. “In so doing, the APA implicitly accepted a normal variant view of homosexuality in a way that had not been possible fourteen years earlier,” says Jack Drescher, in a 2015 journal article for Behavioral Sciences. As Drescher points out, critics contended that if ego dystonic homosexuality was allowed as a classification, all kinds of identity disturbances could be considered psychiatric disorders: “’Should people of color unhappy about their race be considered mentally ill?’ critics asked. What about short people unhappy about their height?” Ironically, many of those same critics who opposed changing one’s feeling to match their preferred sexual orientation now support changing one’s body to match a person’s preferred gender identity. Admittedly, some forms of reparative therapy conducted on minors were harmful and abusive. But few forms were as harmful and abusive as the “treatments” for gender dysphoria, such as destroying sexual function and fertility through hormones, or surgically removing genitals or breasts. Studies have also shown that between 65 percent to 94 percent of children who initially identify as transgender identify with their birth gender by the time they are adults. Yet LGBT activists say we should ignore such findings and promote irreversible “conversion therapies.” As journalist Madeline Kearns points out, A study published in 2017 in the Journal of Sexual Medicine entitled “Age Is Just a Number” endeavored to investigate “WPATH-affiliated surgeons’ views, experiences, and attitudes toward performing vaginoplasty,” i.e., castration, inversion of the penis, and dilation of a cavity to form a pseudo-vaginal canal, “on transgender minors in the United States.” (WPATH is the World Professional Association for Transgender Health.) Of 20 surgeons who were interviewed, eleven reported having done the procedure “1 to 20” times on children under age 18. The youngest patient was 15. One surgeon gave an indication as to why this might be a bad idea. He or she described the new clinical landscape as a “new Wild West” where “a bunch of solo practitioners, basically cowboys or cowgirls who kind of build their little house, advertise and suck people in.” In the U.K., the Times of London has covered a whistleblower scandal at Britain’s main clinic for gender-confused youth, from which multiple clinicians have resigned, citing dangerous, experimental, and inadequate care. Whether conversion therapy for minors to change sexual orientation is helpful or harmful is debatable. It’s also unclear whether that should be the primary option for Christians struggling with same-sex attraction. As TGC Council member Russell Moore has said, instead of depending on psychologists for a cure for same-sex attraction, those with homosexual inclinations should look to Jesus and the gospel for the strength to withstand their particular temptation to sin. “The Bible doesn’t promise us freedom from temptation,” Moore said. “The Bible promises us the power of the spirit to walk through temptation.” Christians who support conversion therapy for sexual orientation should nevertheless be willing to oppose forms that have proven the be dangerous and destructive. Similarly, LGBT supporters who oppose conversion therapies for sexual orientation should be logically consistent and oppose conversion therapies for children with gender dysphoria. The hypocrisy supporting such dangerous “treatments” is morally repugnant, and the harm they are doing to children cannot be undone. Side: Moral
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We will denounce everything you hairy tranny. You are hereby now named a heterophobic, truthphobic and Christophobic retard who is also a Transgressive Abomination. You will now be annihilated. I am a man biologically. You are an abomination, probably most likely a male. You are a hypocrite and you will be denounced because you've admitted you are a hairy tranny. Wonder Woman is a real woman. You are a retarded idiot. Side: Moral
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Repeating my own lines back at me is just really sad and pathetic. It illustrates that you are too stupid and unoriginal to think up your own. The fact of the matter is that you are an expert player of the stiff black trombone and for all your pointless bluster you have proven yourself to be nothing more than a self-hating gay man who despises his own kind. Side: Immoral
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Man lives in the sunlit world of what he believes to be reality. But, there is, unseen by most, an Underworld, a place that is just as real, but not as brightly lit, a Dark side. The Dark Side is always there, waiting for us to enter, waiting to enter us. Until next time, try to enjoy the daylight! Side: Moral
Harley Quinn is a member of the Justice League now in the actual DC Universe. Your arguments are invalidated towards me being "trans". There is no such thing. I am a real man and you like to deny facts. This makes you hypocritical and also truthphobic. You are irrationally fearful that I am more efficient than you and that I am indeed. Side: Moral
You have zero facts and you always have zero facts. That is how you lose because you are a pitiful individual who denies the facts and because you deny the facts, you are a tranny and that's why you are indeed the hypocrite. You will be silenced for your crimes against humanity, especially the children. Side: Moral
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nice anyways Pope Francis’s comments occurred in a documentary about his life titled “Francesco,” which premiered in Rome. In the film, the pontiff said that gay individuals are “children of God and have a right to a family. Nobody should be thrown out, or be made miserable because of it [their sexuality].” the highest person in the church hierarchy disagrees Side: Moral
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Pope Francis’s comments occurred in a documentary about his life titled “Francesco,” which premiered in Rome. In the film, the pontiff said that gay individuals are “children of God and have a right to a family. Nobody should be thrown out, or be made miserable because of it [their sexuality].” That won't bother him. He's a Mormon, not a Catholic. Catholics are sane compared to Mormons. This idiot believes angels showed up with golden plates to give to a 19th century convicted fraudster so he could rewrite the Bible. Side: Moral
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I am with you, Green Arrow. The Justice League will put a stop to this madness. "Sciencerules", you are about to face justice for being a criminal and a hypocrite. You are a hypocritical snowflake and I will never stop at anything to put you down. You have left me with no other choice. More evidence of hypocrisy from Lgbt. Their agenda is clear: Get rid of "gay conversion therapy", meaning gay to straight but allowing conversion from straight to gay or queer or whatever. HYPOCRISY EXPOSED! Their main targets: Kids Their secondary targets: Adults So far, they are failing. We will not let them win. God prevails!
Supporting Evidence:
Lgbt movements dangerous hypocrisy towards conversion therapy ban but allowing another in it's place....lgbt's own conversion agenda to turn youth into one of them
(www.thegospelcoalition.org)
Side: Moral
This is the actual evidence to the actual link and article. The evidence is all there and it is absolutely objective and universally true. Lgbtpedos has been exposed!
Supporting Evidence:
Lgbt movements dangerous hypocrisy towards conversion therapy ban but allowing another in it's place....lgbt's own conversion agenda to turn youth into one of them
(www.thegospelcoalition.org)
Side: Moral
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I heard they're callin you crazy. I say let them at you and beat them at their own game, Batsy! None of us are trannies as we know men are men, women are women. Boys are boys. Girls are girls. Lgbtpedos agenda is more insane than we ever thought. Going too far and targeting kids now? While banning religious freedom? That's what I call crazy and hypocritical! Side: Moral
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The Justice League will put a stop to this madness. The Justice League isn't real. It's a movie franchise. Even if it were real, you wouldn't be in it. I will never stop at anything to put you down Yes, because you're a classic psychopath who hides his evil behind a wall of religious pseudo-babble and references to make-believe superheroes. Side: Immoral
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Pardon me, "another alt" but did I just see you denounce another few of these individuals and their identities, individually? The Justice League is real because of the whole "gender identity" crisis. it is to put lunatics like you in rehabilitation. What I see here is, hypocrisy from you. Dr. Batman, Wonder Woman and Green Arrow are my friends. Side: Moral
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The Justice League is real online. Your arguments are invalid. The actors and actresses are amazing. You are suffering from schizophrenia. "Justice League isn't real", yet you deny all the facts about biology about gender and sex while supporting GENDER IDENTITY? WOW, HYPOCRISY! Side: Moral
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And you call us crazy? Btw, Dr. Batman is as he is. Rest of us are his friends. His real life friends. Therefore, I will just say, Harley Quinzel here is crazy still and yet, I refuse to agree with lgbtpedos because what they're saying is largely endangering the kids out there. Even I know, logic when I see it. Common sense exists and I found it after Mr. J nearly killed me. Comic book characters rock and teach a lesson! Side: Moral
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so um homosexuals are not human now in your language alright then. hey did you know that gay animals do in fact exist penguins for example have gay penguins to take care of baby penguins when the parents died/rejected them and lions participate in homosexual activity to strengthen the lions pride... its almost like its natural thing. unrelated note why tf is their an entire justice league are you all alts? a friend group? oh well im going too copy it with my friends and you cant do shit about it :D Side: Immoral
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Homosexuals have no right to marriage to each other as there is no such thing as same sex love. Marriage and true love is only between a man and a woman. Your arguments are essentially hypocritical and insane. You have no right to dictate those who disagree with homosexuality as homosexuality does bring AIDs/HIV and it is more so than heterosexuals. Why? Because heterosexuals have a way more efficient way of having self control. You don't. Your arguments are senseless and useless. We can and we will stand against you. We reserve the right to protect our children from sexual immorality. Side: Moral
We can and we will fight back against the homosexuals, drag queens, feminazis etc; all basically hypocrites who fail to realize they have crossed the line by targeting innocent children and adults alike, while allowing them to be indoctrinated into sexual immoral ideologies. Hypocrisy is exposed. Your arguments are invalidated. The Justice League will now consider kale the anime weeb an enemy of humanity. Side: Moral
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KALE THE ANIME WEEB- im sorry what- just so you get it right we are using omori pfps. do you realize you are arguing with minors and considering them the end of humanity. ngl its quite entertaining to read. anyways so you support torturing people to "becoming straight" but its immoral the other way around (both are immoral) . straight people can also get HIV/AIDS. as long as its sex you can get it. (vaginal, anal, or oral) Side: Immoral
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emotional distress??? damn man i just came back from school and karaoke with my friends. i got too busy having a life man. i guess you just dont have any friends too share your problems with and instead of going outside touching grass you decide to go here and argue with children and claim they are in emotion distress when down voted. the only thing that this website gave to me is experience in arguing- i dont really care if i get downvoted its a button and its there people click it and its not the end of the world. i dont live my life here man. Side: Immoral
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According to your "logical stance" here it's, ban gay conversion therapy on minors but endorse another? The exact opposite? That's hypocrisy. You say "You can't just manipulate homosexuals into being heterosexuals", yet you are doing the same thing back. Two wrongs don't make a right and right now, you are wrong and it seems that you keep wanting to do wrong by arguing senselessly without seeing you are in the wrong BY ENDORSING HETEROSEXUAL CONVERSION THERAPY TO MAKE STRAIGHT PEOPLE GAY WHICH IS IMMORAL. Therefore, the Justice League supports nothing of this kind of hypocrisy. Leave the kids alone. Side: Moral
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Define "immorality" The opposite of morality. The opposite of right. In other words, what's considered wrong in society and certainly, many people often times think 'what's immoral' can certainly be redefined which is ridiculous and also very based on scriptures which are true to my beliefs. However, morality is still what's right and what's immoral right now is the banning of gay conversion therapy only be endorse the opposite, which is turning kids from natural heterosexuals in development into unnatural homosexuals. "Woe unto them who call evil good and good evil" Oh wait, you clearly support the banning of gay conversion therapy but you like to endorse another form of it? Turning heterosexuals into homosexuals? Never gonna happen. That's called common sense. Common sense is defined as to having the logical approach to everything. Knowing when something is wrong and knowing when something is right. Common sense includes truth and facts, more than emotions needed often times. In this case, the common sense right now is to state what's moral about this debate. Nothing is moral about banning gay conversion therapy only to endorse the opposite onto minors. And if that doesn't have you stand behind the truth and with the righteous, you have lost common sense. Side: Moral
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Common sense is defined as to having the logical approach to everything. Knowing when something is wrong and knowing when something is right. That's impossible because right and wrong aren't objective values. They differ widely between cultures and across time. In some cultures cannibalism is considered "right". In the Christian culture of the past, burning certain young women at the stake was considered "right". Your problem is really that you are so overwhelmingly arrogant, you are completely unprepared to ever challenge yourself or your own beliefs, and this is an important part of common sense. You have convinced yourself that everything you ever say is right and everything anybody else says is wrong. Far from being common sense, that is a dangerous form of mental deficiency. Side: Immoral
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The more you deny it, the more upset you get. The more insults you throw, the more upset you get. Einstein once said, if you keep doing the same thing over and over but fail, it's insane. That's what I see right now from you. You have alt accounts and yet you don't logically argue, you argue illogically. Side: Moral
And here we have the retarded another alt contradicting himself in everything. Anything is possible through Jesus Christ. But for you, you aren't a believer so ofc it's impossible for you to be right. However, I will say now, I am again absolutely correct and factual that right wingers who have common sense will not ever be manipulated into switching sides. It goes against common sense itself. Common sense that you've lost. Your arguments are therefore invalidated and you certainly have proven Dr. Wolverine right. None of you follow Christ into the light and rather walk in darkness and there is an underworld. You have proven again you are self-destructive and you have condemned yourself. Side: Moral
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And here we have the retarded another alt contradicting himself in everything. Anything is possible through Jesus Christ. But for you, you aren't a believer so ofc it's impossible for you to be right Name-dropping Jesus in response to my pointing out your pathological arrogance, and after you label me "retarded", only serves to prove my point. Jesus did not walk around calling other people retarded. You are a deeply mentally ill individual who insults everybody he talks to and who thinks he can get away with it by referencing a man who lived his life in the precise opposite way. Your offensive personality is as far removed from Jesus as it is possible to be and is much closer to that of Satan. Side: Immoral
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Repeating yourself by telling others to shut up has shown your illogical approach and this in a sense has given me the conclusion that you are only proving Einstein correct in trying, trying and trying at something that has no worth nor logic in it. You are a delusional snowflake who likes to throw insults when you've lost an argument and this bash will continue until you are silenced for your crimes against humanity. Your arguments are all invalidated and btw, you suffer from schizophrenia while I don't. I am perfectly sane and self-aware about being civil with common sense. I REJOICE in you lying again and again because that wholeheartedly just motivates me to push forward with the truth in hand. You have died on a hill multiple times in wrestling with the righteous people who have common sense to stand for moral values. Double standards exist and because you fail to realize that, it makes you not only delusional, it makes you a criminal, a threat and a monster. If you ever approach kids and say gay conversion therapy is wrong, people will never trust you once they find out that you want to indoctrinate kids into the opposite of turning innocent boys and girls who will grow up to be naturally heterosexual to unnatural homosexuals, who then will 90 percent of the time will be infected with AIDS/HIV. Realistic statistics have already determined that AIDS/HIV are within most bisexuals and homosexuals. Heterosexuals have better control in that light. Endangering kids makes you delusional and you seem to be blinded in darkness because in truth you walk in darkness. Therefore, you have no truth within you and so you shoot blindly, hitting nothing but yourself. Your own insults have backfired upon yourself and you are invalidated. Side: Moral
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Says the hypocrite who uses alts also to disagree with logic just to satisfy your own ego. Your argument is invalidated by the Justice League. The truth wins. We win. God wins. You lose and you are ultimately now exposed as a hypocritical criminally insane snowflake. Consider yourself taken down. Everytime you argue, you will lose. Your common sense is gone. Side: Moral
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This is the most wide and most self-destructive comment I have ever read. You have lost it haven't you? You are delusional and hypocritical, in creating alts just to agree with yourself and your insane beliefs that are subjective and toxic. The more you lie to yourself, the more mad you get. You have in a sense, gained nothing from this. While the Justice League have an advantage. We stand for Truth & Justice. Children are in danger in reality. You choose to deny this truth. But you don't have common sense, therefore, you are delusional and dangerous to yourself as well as to others. Side: Moral
See, your logic is that, we are delusional when we have the truth on our side. That makes us sane. You, on the other hand, deny the truth. That's where your hypocrisy is. You don't care about the lives of children who are endangered by this "trangender" transgression that is biblically a sin in the eyes of the Man Upstairs. That's right, He exists. Religious Freedom matters. As for people like you, you are just senseless and full of hatred. You play the victim and self entitlement card. Those are thinking errors and to deny that is hubris. So, I am with my friends here, your arguments are invalidated. It doesn't take Seven Leaguers to do this, it could even take one. However, we are all here because of your issue of knowing double standards. You have alts too and yet you disagree with the truth. That essentially makes "all of you" insane. All of us here, standing up to you, are sane. Side: Moral
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Says the hypocrite who has alternate accounts and yet doesn't accept the truth. I have the truth and I have real friends. Your arguments are invalidated. You will be silenced and you are in the wrong. I have spoken absolute objective truths universally and I am 100 percent correct and factual. You have zero evidence of having the truth within yourself. You also endanger alot of kids by saying "gay conversion therapy is immoral" when they are in danger of going through the alternate version of "gay conversion therapy", the "therapy" of turning natural born male and female heterosexuals, who happen to be minors into unnatural homosexuals, vulnerable to AIDS/HIV. I reserve the right to speak and to protect myself from a psycho such as you. I will continue to silence you and you have no chance, no chance of winning this debate. Telling me to shut up will certainly never work and threats will not work either. You have zero power over me. I have won and I will continue to lecture you on your flaws. Side: Moral
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Your arguments are once again invalidated. You have no truth and therefore, you are silenced. You have no truth within you, you are a hypocritical snowflake who has alt accounts. You lie and spread misinformation. You insult and you deceive. You also target innocent children. I am indeed armed with many truths. You are choosing to be offended by using your alts to act insane. While I have real friends and soon, common sense will return. You have lost and I will continue to speak freely. I am absolute in all that I say universally. I am correct and you are not. Side: Moral
You ever heard about innocent black lives being taken down just as white lives are taken down? Yeah, that's double standard right there. There's always going to be tension between people. Now, on this topic, you refuse to see it and that's what makes you delusional and a hypocrite. I am right. Side: Moral
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Shut up. You're insane. Shut up. You're insane. Shut up. You're insane. Shut up. You're insane. Shut up. You're insane. Shut up. You're insane. Shut up. You're insane. Shut up. You're insane. Shut up. You're insane. Shut up. You're insane. Shut up. You're insane. Shut up. You're insane. Shut up. You're insane. Shut up. You're insane. Shut up. You're insane. Shut up. You're insane. Side: Immoral
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Your arguments are 100 percent invalidated and you are denounced again and again. You are a liar and you are insane. You are a criminal who protects other criminals while denying that you are insane, you call the sane insane. Your confusion only affects yourself. Your self-destructive, hypocritical snowflake self-serving full of hubris, prideful, lustful and idiotic retardation ends here. Side: Moral
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Your arguments are 100 percent invalidated Stop repeating the same meaningless phrase over and over and over again like a parrot you absolutely insane freak. You've invalidated nothing. What you've done is open 30 different alt accounts named after various Marvel characters and you are using them to cheat the voting system and spam the website with retarded pseudo-religious trash. You have the mind of a fucking five year old. Side: Immoral
Says the hypocrite who repeats meaningless stuff and yet I am logical and full of common sense. You are not full of common sense. You are acting insane and illogical. This bash will continue until you FIND SOME HUMILITY. You sound exactly like the grinch of Christmas. You appreciate nothing and shoot blindly into the darkness. Therefore, you are senseless and when you say I am senseless, yet ironically act senseless, you are the hypocrite. This is essentially the truth. You are senseless and a hypocrite. You are also offended easily. This shows you have something called hubris and until you realize that, you will be Uncle Scrooge. Gay conversion therapy is indeed moral because lgbtpedos have a narrative in saying they want it banned and yet, people with common sense have already released fact-based evidence and reports, saying that lgbtpedos claim to want to ban gay conversion therapy and yet, they want to do the same to heterosexuals, ESPECIALLY MINORS. I will repeat the truth which is sensible of me. When you are repeating yourself and throwing ad hominems and such, that shows you are not willing to accept that you are in the wrong. Now, being wrong is part of being human but doing wrong and justifying it? That is where you are wrong. I will continue to defy your "political correctness" and you will be banned off of every forum I create. I reserve the absolute right to silence all lgbtpedos activists who are toxic, a danger to others and themselves, as well as holding no facts while spreading misinformation, deception and false narratives. Common sense tells me to keep going because the Truth Keeps Marching On. God Prevails! Side: Moral
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We will never shut up. We will march on and speak the truth. It is you who will shut up because you are wrong. You call us delusional and yet you act hypocritically and sexist towards real women out there who disagree with "transgender" sports. You support the side that wants to ban gay conversion therapy without seeing the logical truth that lgbtpedos want to bring their own form of sexuality conversion therapy in to endorse the same youth they want to protect into their own ideologies, which are unnatural things. Lgbtpedos are hypocrites in this and in refusing to see these facts, you have lost common sense, therefore making you delusional. You are self-destructive and hypocritical. You will have the right to remain silent and ofc you may choose not as you already have and we will continue to use what you've said against you because you are full of hatred, lies and delusional hypocrisy. Yeah, you don't fight for justice. Throwing "shut up" around just means you've admitted that you have no more explainable responses with common sense. This means you've lost. You are insane and you are a hypocritical truthphobic snowflake. Have a good day. The cops will be taking you in soon. Side: Moral
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Shut up. You're insane. Shut up. You're insane. Shut up. You're insane. Shut up. You're insane. Shut up. You're insane. Shut up. You're insane. Shut up. You're insane. Shut up. You're insane. Shut up. You're insane. Shut up. You're insane. Shut up. You're insane. Shut up. You're insane. Shut up. You're insane. Shut up. You're insane. Shut up. You're insane. Shut up. You're insane. Side: Immoral
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You are insane and you will be silenced again. Your hypocrisy keeps showing every time you repeat that again and again and again. Your arguments are invalidated. Continuation of your annihilation will not end until you surrender. The Justice League will take you down. Side: Moral
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You have exceeded the amounts of warnings you have gotten from the Justice League. We won't hesitate to take you down and hand you over to the authorities of the Law Enforcement. The outcome of this situation is your own fault. Whether you like it or not, your responses are nothing compared to Dr. Batman's common sense. My full support is with Batman and we are indeed not leftists/left wingers. Judging from your approach, you sound like one and you are indenial. Left wingers fit that profile as well. All I gotta say about Batman's point is; Double Standards. Since lgbtpedos have backstabbed normies in the back for "giving them tolerance" by banning gay conversion therapy by bringing it back in opposite form to endorse youth into becoming unnatural homosexuals, this proves Dr. Batman's standpoint. We do indeed have the justified approach to not ban gay conversion therapy because you have your own form of sexual conversion therapy. Therefore, you are on the side of illogical insanity. Your arguments are indeed invalidated. Side: Moral
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Hi MrSuperman Welcome to createdebate, waves. I'm a little confused with the sudden influx of new users. So are you from another website or something? It seems that you know Dr_Batman and the others? "We do indeed have the justified approach to not ban gay conversion therapy because you have your own form of sexual conversion therapy. " MrSuperman I am interested what are you talking about having their own form of sexual conversion therapy? Side: Moral
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Shut up. You're insane. Shut up. You're insane. Shut up. You're insane. Shut up. You're insane. Shut up. You're insane. Shut up. You're insane. Shut up. You're insane. Shut up. You're insane. Shut up. You're insane. Shut up. You're insane. Shut up. You're insane. Shut up. You're insane. Shut up. You're insane. Shut up. You're insane. Shut up. You're insane. Shut up. You're insane. Side: Immoral
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You are an insane hypocritical possessed individual. You seriously need Jesus Christ. But from what I can see, you choose not to be saved. This is why you are acting the way you are acting. We will never be silenced. The wicked will. Your arguments, as Dr. Batman as declared objectively and universally are invalidated. Side: Moral
Those with common sense will never be manipulated into becoming an insane left winger. Right now, the insanity is from the leftists of the political spectrum. It is a factual thing that religious freedom is being threatened and the Justice League cannot let those people be endangered. We know that lgbtpedos have been acting out of line and targeting kids is the last straw. So Harley is right. Anyone with common sense and is with the right wingers will never ever turn into a left winger, unless they are faking it or are just simply left wingers pretending to be right wingers. Liars are everywhere. But the Justice League? We stand for Truth & Justice. Side: Moral
The more these people fight senselessly, the more upset they will be. Christmas is on the horizon and these snowflakes still don't have truth within them. I'd say, they are the cause of ruining their own lives. My testimony and faith in Jesus Christ stands. I rejoice when people lie because they won't win. They will one day realize the error of their ways. Side: Moral
Can you manipulate a right winger into being a left winger? Hello B: Sure. Educate them, if they'll sit still for 20 minutes. Truly, the only relevant part of the Constitution, is the Bill of Rights, and I can teach ANYBODY what they're about in 10 minutes.. The Bill of Rights is short, sweet, and doesn't use any big words. excon Side: Immoral
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We could ask you the same question. We are inclusive towards right wingers as we are right wingers. The Justice League are not politically affiliated btw. Who says the Justice League don't care about religious freedom? We just don't tolerate criminals and the insane running around indoctrinating their insanity all over the place and I will say, lgbtpedos are insane. They want to ban one form of conversion therapy just to endorse another. Lgbtpedos are leftists. The Justice League are not leftists. Side: Moral
most lgbtq+ people think yes any conversion therapy is immoral. so you see heterosexual conversion is immoral and so is homosexual conversion therapy. its the same thing.so basically almost all conversion therapy examples are immoral also saying "you are forcing it in our throats" isn't valid in this situation considering the fact its an argument about gay people + saying it shouldn't be pushed on kids is right. we should not force gayness into children but we shouldnt push straightness either we should just let children be children without the expectation of being in a relationship in the first place since well its a child they literally dont know what sexual/romantic attraction is. gay conversion therapy doesn't make gay people straight it just drives them to insanity and makes them think that there is something wrong with them to the point where they go in a relationship with someone they aren't even happy with extra trauma. minors can also get confused with their identity and should be free to test out whatever floats their boat. Side: Immoral
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how is it sexist to say homosexuals shouldnt be tortured? and minors make mistakes in their identity sometimes and just want to test out safely? i dont support pedos or zoophiles children and animals cannot consent if its an adult x adult relationship where both individuals are happy i see no problems whatsoever. Side: Immoral
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Your arguments are essentially invalidated at this point. We, the Justice League know you are guilty of harboring many alts just to bully others into your false ideologies that actually bring harm to kids by deceiving them into believing "gender can be changed" and that the alternative of "gay conversion therapy" is acceptable when it's not. Double standards exist. You are denounced because you are a snowflake and you cannot win against the truth and the facts. Side: Moral
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im not an alt? we met in school and we just came here too practice for the debate club- havent you notice what writing styles are??? literally no one gives a shit if we are denounced even if we get banned its not going to be like "OH NO WE GOT BANNED WHATEVER WILL WE DO?!" its just like "ok we got banned ig they were pissed". also how is arguing in a website made for arguing suddenly bullying? its made for arguing??? are you THAT sensitive??? and man we are kids. we are literally minors. also i feel like you are the one harboring alts its seems like you have very similar writing styles here? anyways im gonna enjoy my Christmas break now and take care of the plants. have a good day and merry Christmas too you ig? Side: Moral
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I have a fetish for touching children. I should be allowed to explore my sexuality, and I'm glad someone like you is here to understand my point of view. Touching kids is just an exploration for both the child and the adult. Morality is subjective, so I have every right to do whatever my sexuality tells me to do. Side: Moral
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im sorry what the fuck??? yes you have the right to explore sexuallity IF IT DOESNT HURT ANYONE. YOU REALIZE CHILDREN DONT KNOW WHAT THE FUCK SEX IS AND SHIT. WHY THE HELL WOULD YOU THINK A CHILD IS HOT? WHAT THE FUCK. ADULT X ADULT IS FINE BUT SHITASS IF ANYONE HERE HAS AN ACTUAL CHILD X ADULT RELATIONSHIP WHAT THE HELL??? EVEN IF ITS A TEENAGER X ADULT ITS ILLEGAL (for example of illegal: 13 x 17) THE ONLY TIME THAT SHIT IS LEGAL IS WHEN ITS 17 X 18 YEAR OLDS WHATS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE. the lgbtq plus does not approve Side: Immoral
you are not welcome in the lgbtq+ community that is pedophilia children cant consent yet since they dont understand sexual attraction they shouldnt know what sex is even. im talking about same sex relationships not children not animals. im talking about adult x adult. if you have a child x adult type of relationship (sexual/romantic) and actually have sex or anything like that man you should be in jail. i support homosexuals not pedos. Side: Immoral
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