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You left out that he said "we were born this way is a lie". And you left out "it's a matter of nurture, not nature, and you did it on purpose. You used a deceptive tactic.
At the 1:24 mark he says that in his life it was certainly mostly nurture. He did not say it had nothing to do with nature. I left out the born this way pay because it isn't relevant. There is no deception on my part.
If Milo believes that being gay is bad, and also believes that he could choose to not be gay, then why does he chose to be gay?
Where in the video does he argue that being gay is a choice? He says that it's mostly nurture, not nature, which implies that it's not a choice, as it's decided by your environment.
Not really. The Bible is clear that if you mess up a child sexually, you will face the judgement. It is also clear on what the effects are upon the next generations.
I don't care what he said. You implied that his word is the end all be all on this topic because he's gay. I guarantee other gay people have said things that disagree with him.
I am bisexual and I do believe it is a mental disorder. However I do not believe that is a bad thing just as a sociopath also has a mental disorder but they have done nothing inherently wrong their brain simply operates differently.
Just because heterosexuals are more in number at present, you cannot categorize homosexuals as mentally ill. I am a heterosexual being, and I do not believe homosexuality is any disorder. And adding to that, homosexuality is a feeling whereas trying to match square peg with round hole isn't, both are controlled by two different parts of the brain, and thus cannot be compared on this ground.
Oh the irony of a soldier saying post traumatic stress disorder isn't a choice, then saying he wished he didn't have post traumatic stress disorder.
PTSD isn't a choice, thus he could wish he didn't have it. As opposed to saying being gay IS a choice then lamenting he wishes he wasn't. Well if it IS a choice, then he could choose not to be.
I never said it makes everybody gay. I said it makes gay people gay. PTSD doesn't magically jump upon every soldier. But soldiers that do have it were usually in a traumatic environment.
Not according to some testimonies by gay people. Some say "they figured it out" or "they learned that they like it" and some actually say what happened to them as a child drove them to sexual confusion.
There is every chance that it could have. But again, heterosexual people have had terrible experiences as children yet they are hetero. We don't fully understand what makes a person have sexual tendencies towards the same gender.
Sure we do. They are sexually drawn to people of the same sex and find them desirable, possibly by an environment that caused gender confusion or from other unknown variables.
I'm actually laughing pretty good at this. My co-worker who sits next to me (utterly hates his job and is looking to leave) is gay. He saw the title of this debate and was like "Oh YEAH?!?!? Maybe I can get FML for it!!!"
I just looked at him like....dude no. XD He is laughing at it though.
Natural psychopaths do not get PTSD from war, so ironically in the case of PTSD brain chemistry is the only thing that can stop the disorder forming from the environmental effects on the brain.
Milo wishes he wasn't gay because he believes its morally wrong and detrimental to society but doesn't think it's mental disorder, which is sorta what I believe as well. It's more nurture than nature.
Whatever a living being does or says or feels, it is merely the manifestation of hormonal variations in one's mind at first, and then the same being directed to the whole body. If someone is heterosexual, this is also due to hormones. So even if a gay or lesbian tries to portray his/her condition as a mental disorder, it actually isn't. Our actions and our feelings are directed by our frontal lobe of the brain and if anyone calls homosexuality a mental disorder, then he/she should do the same for heterosexuality as well.
It's comparable to finding a Hollywood hack who once was a Republican but has been quoted as saying Republicanism is a mental disorder. In other words, it proves nothing.
And finally, this man was banned forever from Twitter. So hey, either this guy is right but Trump is a chump, or Trump is right and this guy just needs to shut up. Get your Twitter allegiances straight before you play this game.
What he said word for word was,"We are born this way is a myth that was created by liberals in the 1980's. It's a matter of nurture, not nature." Mic drop.
If "I know Milo"? He's a conservative Trump supporter who's speech was shut down at UC Davis by liberals because they knew he would say things liberals would hate.
I used to listen to his radio show all of the time. It's why I put his video on this debate. He used to work for Breitbart. His ideas and mine... we've met. Where do you think I got the term "greatest troll" from...
I know. So quit shoving your religion down my throat, seeing you are not an authority. (giggle) And if you are not a religion, then you have no Constitutional rights to "the freedom of religion", seeing you aren't actually a religion according to yourself.
You still haven't pointed out where in the Constitution it states we are required to have a religion and unless you can do so, I do have the right to not have a religion.
It makes him more of an authority than anyone that is straight.
No matter which way you reword it, your sexual orientation doesn't make you an authority on mental disorder classifications.
And he says it is a choice.
So far you've claimed he wishes he wasn't gay yet it's a choice; so couldn't he just choose not to be? I have a feeling you're misrepresenting what he actually said.
Mind you this is a man with a black boyfriend.
Why are you bringing race into this? What does that matter?
If it isn't "natural", it must be? "Unnatural". If you are "nort born that way", then you have "chosen" to do something that is"unnatural", thus? A mental disorder.
If a nutjob admits they are a nutjob, it only proves my point. Are dog humpers born that way? No? I didn't think so. Now get your nasty ass outta here.
If a nutjob admits they are a nutjob, it only proves my point.
Yes you've already said this. Youve just replaced the word nutjob with mental disorder.
Are dog humpers born that way?
Are trees born that way? the ancient tiger of mount Kikicaca? You? Interesting topics but still completely irrelevant to the subject at hand - gay men - and to this particularly issue: whether it is a mental disorder.
If your claim is that "I was just born this way" then refuting me is pointless, you are a bigot and a racist for refuting a minority(per liberal definition), and obviously I couldn't help being conservative. I was just born this way. Get your racist, liberal as* out of here.
Youre that JC guy. You can always tell his low intelligent trolling. Anyway.. as he is actually that thick I guess its quite a sincere troll so I'll reply:
Being gay is, at least in part, due to environment factors: they are not born that way. It still isnt a mental disorder however.
Ad hominem. Make a point with links and data or your liberal bs is meaningless white noise. I know it's hard for liberals, but you don't back your point, you will have Trump until 2024. This is the technique that lost you the election. Go ahead. Everyone is watching.
I have not seen yet a be-all end-all definition for mental disorder, so it's hard to define it. However, there are some things we can establish.
1. Homosexuality does not cause subjective discomfort, as discomfort caused by it is a result of social impositions (ie, feeling broken)
2. It does not prevent day-to-day functioning
3. It does not cause a person to be dangerous to themselves or to others.
Based on these criteria, I find it hard to see why it should be defined as a mental disorder.
I can't find the part where Milo says that homosexuality is a mental disorder.
Milo does bring up a good point about the "gay gene" in response to claims of it being a sinful lifestyle, but I don't wholly agree with his refutation.
He argues against the "born this way" belief, which I do party agree with, but then says that he also believes that it's a combination of nature and nurture.
This means that nature, genetics in this case, does actually play a part in homosexuality, so a gay gene could very much exist.
Furthermore, even if it is mostly nurture, this only enforces the idea that it's not something that's chosen, so the point still stands- those who believe it is a sinful lifestyle have nothing to go upon: assuming sin is chosen willingly, then the homosexual lifestyle cannot be sinful, as it was imposed, through nature or nurture, and not chosen willfully.
Overall, Milo makes a good point for a while but doesn't really properly follow through with the final point.
Nope. The sins of the father are wrought upon his children through many generations. Jesus addressed the wounds of child molestation and offered it's original agents as the actual offender. I'm not the judge of homosexuals, but can see its results which match what the Bible says.
You can't even properly interpret a video that only takes 3 minutes and 9 seconds to watch. There is no way you could possibly interpret the bible properly.
You gave this video as your proof. You still haven't admitted that this video isn't the video where he said it was a mental disorder. You have only demonstrated that you don't understand the words the Milo says.
He called transgenderism a psychiatric disorder. He said it was wrong to call being gay a disorder before and it is right to call transgenderism a disorder now.
He called transgenderism a psychiatric disorder. He said it was wrong to call being gay a disorder before and it is right to call transgenderism a disorder now.
2) I have rejected what you said word for word. You need multiple chances to figure out what he said. You had to change what he said in order to be "right".
So tell us word for word exactly what he said, so we will all see you are not anything but a little liar. Go ahead. Word for word. No paraphrasing. We'll wait.
I've proven you wrong with actual points, links, and quotes ver batum. You could not quote. You have proven only one thing with your bs. You are a little snatch.
You have been raped in this debate my little liberal bitch. And you are too much of a coward to admit you were wrong. That's some pussy liberal shit right there.
