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God designed marriage & family no rules / anything goes
Debate Score:85
Arguments:71
Total Votes:93
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Gay marriage is Christian ??

the soon to emerge antichrist ... what are we to look for


trending toward ............ one world religion
trending toward ............ one world governance
............................... the confirmation of the Covenant
trending toward ............ apostate Christianity <<
trending toward ............ Cristian persecution
trending toward ............ rampant perversion
............................... building and commencement of the 3rd Jewish Temple
trending toward ............ wars and rumors of wars / violence will fill the Earth
............................... the Euphrates River war .... Revelation 9


Presbyterian assembly: Gay marriage is Christian ?? http://news.yahoo.com/presbyterian-assembly-gay-marriage-christian-212658672.html

The top legislative body of the Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.) has voted by large margins to recognize same-sex marriage as Christian in the church constitution, adding language that marriage can be the union of "two people," not just "a man and a woman."

however according to God: Jesus: .. But from the beginning of creation .. >> God made them male and female << .. for this reason a man shall leave his father and mother .. and the two shall become one flesh .. so they are no longer two .. but one flesh .. what therefore >> God has joined << together .. let no man separate ... http://dadmansabode.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=750#p750  

God designed marriage & family

Side Score: 49
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no rules / anything goes

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4 points

trending toward ............ one world religion

Bullshit

trending toward ............ one world governance

Bullshit

trending toward ............ apostate Christianity <<

Bullshit

trending toward ............ Cristian persecution

Utter bullshit.

trending toward ............ rampant perversion

Bullshit once more.

Side: God designed marriage & family
Genesis1-3(17) Disputed
1 point

The churches are starting to accept the grim rebellion of Homosexuality so I do not get how it is not happening.

Side: God designed marriage & family
1 point

I'm not a Christian but no it's not. I have nothing against gay couples, but I think there is something wrong with their lives that makes them like that. You are not "born" gay. You choose to be gay.

But again I have nothing against them. But they don't need to shove their ideas down my throat.

Side: God designed marriage & family
AveSatanas(4443) Disputed
2 points

Science has proven that it isnt a choice to be gay at all. Studies also show that the upbringing of gay children are identical to the upbringings of straight children in that nowhere is there a massive pivital event for either sexual orientation that causes a shift in attraction. There is no choice. its sewn into their biology and they cant help it. It be like claiming that YOU are only attracted to the opposite gender because you choose to be. Just think about that and how absurd that idea is. Thats how they feel when you claim they are choosing to be gay.

Also where the fuck do you see gay ideas being shoved down your throat? I dont find gay messages anywhere except for the news which only reports on gay marriage statistics. I think theres a gay radio station some where but if you just dont listen to it you can go your entire life without having to see any gay messages at all for 90% of it. Nobody is shoving anything down your throat exept for that they want equality. Stop being a homophobe for 30 seconds and you might realize that.

Side: no rules / anything goes
DevinSeay(1120) Disputed
2 points

Science has proven that it isnt a choice to be gay at all.

The Human Genome Project debunked the gay gene theory years ago.

Also where the fuck do you see gay ideas being shoved down your throat?

Oh, I don't know, gay parades?

Stop being a homophobe for 30 seconds and you might realize that.

I stated earlier I don't have problem with their lifestyle. Therefore, I'm a homophobe? See, that's what I mean by "shoving agenda". I simply said I don't care if they are gay let them be gay but I don't think it's right and yet you insult me? Ok, I see. Your argument is severely flawed.

Side: God designed marriage & family
Saintnow(3684) Disputed
1 point

They encourage others to commit acts of perversion and those actions ALWAYS have detrimental effects in the lives of all who commit them. The issue is against what they do, and as long as they insist it's ok to do what they do and they want to make an issue about it, then the issue is against them....they are wrong and should not be allowed in any position or place where they can influence or molest children. The laws condoning their behavior are wrong and should be overturned though they probably will not be overturned. Sodomy in power will deny freedom of speech to those who say the actions are perversions. Not only will they shove it down your throat, they will force you to keep your mouth shut and swallow it if they can. I do not mean to be graphic here, it's simply what is happening today. Freedom of speech is disappearing and fascism is rising under the banners of Sodomy, Islam, Atheism, and such things. The Bible is being outlawed as "hate speech" because it clearly says homosexual acts are in a class of sexual perversion worse than common whore mongering such as men shacking up with their whorish girlfriends, or getting in bed with the whorish women they are not married to and enjoying being whoredog hotdog perverts themselves...but homosexuality in the Bible is "abomination"....given a much stronger negative connotation than the repulsive perversions of adulterers and fornicators who abuse themselves outside of marriage. The "hate speech" laws are moving toward outlawing any speech against sexual sin, outlawing the Bible, and penalizing Christians who in obedience to God will not deny His Word.

Side: no rules / anything goes

Um i disagree that the bible condones gay marriage and gay sex but i dont agree with "god designed marriage and family". The concept of family dates back well before christianity and the same with marriage which originated as a trade system between families who would sell their daughters for a dowry. Christianity didnt invent the concept it hijacked it and claimed it invented it. Also once again were back to you have to actually prove this presupposition. Youre just asserting god designed marriage, and have yet to prove that or prove god even exists. So how about actually responding to me. This is a debate site you know so why dont we stop the retarded preachy one sided spam "debates" and you actually respond to a fucking argument you coward.

Side: God designed marriage & family
Jamador88(125) Disputed
3 points

Being gay is a choice. It's not only a choice, but a behavior.

A lifestyle. You choose your own lifestyle.

"The concept of family dates back well before christianity and the same with marriage"

If you believe in the bible, then you'll clearly see that God created man and woman which produced offspring; is that not a family to you? As far as marriage, Adam and Eve were married and became the first marriage ordained by God, or did Christianity hijack that concept as well?

Side: no rules / anything goes
AveSatanas(4443) Disputed
1 point

Being gay is a choice. It's not only a choice, but a behavior.

A lifestyle. You choose your own lifestyle

Prove it. Prove modern biological and psychological understanding of homosexuality wrong. Prove this also in the face of pretty much every homosexual persons testimony to the contrary.

If you believe in the bible, then you'll clearly see that God created man and woman which produced offspring; is that not a family to you? As far as marriage, Adam and Eve were married and became the first marriage ordained by God, or did Christianity hijack that concept as well?

If you believe in the bible

there ya go. i dont believe the bible. The story of adam and even demonstrably never happened and if we actually go by science and a historical record going along with the theory of evolution we see the evolution of the "family unit" quite naturally as a social construct.

Side: God designed marriage & family
1 point

Being gay is a choice. It's not only a choice, but a behavior.

In what way do you feel that you have chosen to be straight?

Side: no rules / anything goes
1 point

Actually I can agree gay marriage isn't automatically Christian while at the same time saying I support gay marriage and/or civil unions, however they be called. I value the civil rights in a free society above any religious dogma.

I know many of you won't agree, but so what?

Marriage to me is simply a legally binding agreement between two people who love each other.

And I could have put this on the other side instead, but this is one of those cases where I agree with the overall debate heading but don't necessarily like the voting column labels underneath it.

Side: God designed marriage & family
0 points

what the Bible says about Homosexuality http://dadmansabode.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=750#p750

Side: God designed marriage & family

What is christian is determined by the interpretation of the bible by the church. It used to be that divorce was such a anti-christian thing to do that kings would lose their throne for it. Now everyone is coming to accept divorce as a valid response to an unhappy marriage. Soon, gay marriage will also be justified. As, probably, so will responsible use of pot, premarital sex, maybe even prostitution. It will be interesting to see what christianity becomes.

Side: no rules / anything goes
AngryGenX(463) Disputed
3 points

Divorce is not acceptable to many conservative Christian denominations. You can see liberal denominations shrinking and conservative ones growing. PCA, which split from the PCUSA in the 70's over the ordaining of women, is steadily growing, while PCUSA, which recently started ordaining homosexuals, has lost half a million members over the last decade. I think people deep down realize that if you are just going to change your beliefs to fit the culture, there is no point in your faith. For the foreseeable future the more conservative branches of Christianity will continue to exist.

Side: God designed marriage & family
dadman(1703) Disputed
1 point

all you're seeing is the Harlot coming along side and invading the Bride ....

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The soon to emerge antichrist ... what are we to look for

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trending toward ............ one world religion

trending toward ............ one world governance

............................... the confirmation of the Covenant

trending toward ............ >> apostate Christianity <<<<<

trending toward ............ Cristian persecution

trending toward ............ rampant perversion

............................... building and commencement of the 3rd Jewish Temple

trending toward ............ wars and rumors of wars / violence will fill the Earth

............................... the Euphrates River war .... Revelation 9

Side: God designed marriage & family
nobodyknows(745) Disputed
1 point

Or... Maybe we are seeing reason coming to the religious masses.

Side: no rules / anything goes
0 points

however according to God: Jesus: .. But from the beginning of creation .. >> God made them male and female > God has joined << together .. let no man separate ...

This means Jesus was against divorce, not gay marriage.

Side: no rules / anything goes
dadman(1703) Disputed
4 points

try again ....... God made them male and female .. >> for this reason << a man shall leave his father and mother .. and the two shall become one flesh .. so they are no longer two .. but one flesh

Side: God designed marriage & family
Cartman(18192) Disputed
1 point

If somebody asks Jesus about divorce, then he is talking about divorce. You don't want to open the can of worms of interpreting the Bible without taking into account the context.

Side: no rules / anything goes
0 points

I am not sure why I was downvoted. Someone asked Jesus about divorce. His answer can't be used for anything but divorce.

Side: no rules / anything goes
Saving101(17) Clarified
1 point

Better late than never. You are right about the question that was ask. Jesus was asked about divorce and he answered using God's word from Genesis 2:24. He was not asked if it was OK for a man and a man to become one in the bond of marriage. That wasn't the issue then, but it is now. So the question arises "Gay marriage is Christian?" Well what does God tell us. First commandment from God Genesis 1:27-28 "So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them. And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that move upon the earth." If Gay marriage is a good idea what would happen if everyone woke up one day and said I'm A homosexual? If this isn't clear enough there are many other scriptures. Leviticus 18:22 "Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination." 1 Timothy 1:9-11 "realizing the fact that law is not made for a righteous person, but for those who are lawless and rebellious, for the ungodly and sinners, for the unholy and profane, for those who kill their fathers or mothers, for murderers and immoral men and homosexuals and kidnappers and liars and perjurers, and whatever else is contrary to sound teachings, according to the blessed God, with which I have been entrusted. There are many other verses that answer the question if you would like them please message me. May the Father of our lord Jesus Christ give you understanding.

Side: God designed marriage & family