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Gay marriage is Christian ??
the soon to emerge antichrist ... what are we to look for
trending toward ............ one world religion trending toward ............ one world governance ............................... the confirmation of the Covenant trending toward ............ apostate Christianity << trending toward ............ Cristian persecution trending toward ............ rampant perversion ............................... building and commencement of the 3rd Jewish Temple trending toward ............ wars and rumors of wars / violence will fill the Earth ............................... the Euphrates River war .... Revelation 9
Presbyterian assembly: Gay marriage is Christian ?? http://news.yahoo.com/presbyterian-assembly-gay-marriage-christian-212658672.html
The top legislative body of the Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.) has voted by large margins to recognize same-sex marriage as Christian in the church constitution, adding language that marriage can be the union of "two people," not just "a man and a woman."
however according to God: Jesus: .. But from the beginning of creation .. >> God made them male and female << .. for this reason a man shall leave his father and mother .. and the two shall become one flesh .. so they are no longer two .. but one flesh .. what therefore >> God has joined << together .. let no man separate ... http://dadmansabode.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=750#p750
I'm not a Christian but no it's not. I have nothing against gay couples, but I think there is something wrong with their lives that makes them like that. You are not "born" gay. You choose to be gay.
But again I have nothing against them. But they don't need to shove their ideas down my throat.
Science has proven that it isnt a choice to be gay at all. Studies also show that the upbringing of gay children are identical to the upbringings of straight children in that nowhere is there a massive pivital event for either sexual orientation that causes a shift in attraction. There is no choice. its sewn into their biology and they cant help it. It be like claiming that YOU are only attracted to the opposite gender because you choose to be. Just think about that and how absurd that idea is. Thats how they feel when you claim they are choosing to be gay.
Also where the fuck do you see gay ideas being shoved down your throat? I dont find gay messages anywhere except for the news which only reports on gay marriage statistics. I think theres a gay radio station some where but if you just dont listen to it you can go your entire life without having to see any gay messages at all for 90% of it. Nobody is shoving anything down your throat exept for that they want equality. Stop being a homophobe for 30 seconds and you might realize that.
Science has proven that it isnt a choice to be gay at all.
The Human Genome Project debunked the gay gene theory years ago.
Also where the fuck do you see gay ideas being shoved down your throat?
Oh, I don't know, gay parades?
Stop being a homophobe for 30 seconds and you might realize that.
I stated earlier I don't have problem with their lifestyle. Therefore, I'm a homophobe? See, that's what I mean by "shoving agenda". I simply said I don't care if they are gay let them be gay but I don't think it's right and yet you insult me? Ok, I see. Your argument is severely flawed.
The Human Genome Project debunked the gay gene theory years ago.
i wasnt talking about a gay gene you twat. Its based in body chemistry.
Oh, I don't know, gay parades?
i have never even seen an advertisement for one of those anywhere near me, nor have i seen it reported on the news. If theyre actually a problem for you where you live, uh, dont go to them? easy.
I stated earlier I don't have problem with their lifestyle. Therefore, I'm a homophobe? See, that's what I mean by "shoving agenda". I simply said I don't care if they are gay let them be gay but I don't think it's right and yet you insult me? Ok, I see. Your argument is severely flawed
it is typical of homophobic people to claim its a lifestyle and make idiotic arguments that its a choice and complain about the "gay adgenda" and "gay ideas being shoved down your throat". so yeah id say youre at least partially homophobic
Are you fucking retarded? No seriously because i dont wanna waste my time on the mentally incapable. How the fuck did you get choice from body chemistry? There is no "gay gene" per say at least not one theyve found yet however they can confirm differences in body chemistry between straight people and gay people. Chemistry we cant control. So no there is no choice you ignoramus.
I would say that there is a difference in a child who has been raised by a gay/lesbian couple and one who hasn't. A gay man can never -no matter how hard they may TRY TO IMITATE a woman- care and offer the same NATURAL traits a woman can. Same can be said for a woman in correlation to what only a REAL man can offer. Studies in not only America but around the world prove that lesbian couples raising a boy produce the same statistical results as a young male who is raised with no father in terms of education, poverty, and chances of going to prison.
Are you fucking retarded? No seriously because i dont wanna waste my time on the mentally incapable
Apparently you, my good sir, are mentally retarded because you resort to the use of language because it chaps your ass that someone disagrees with you.
No actually. There are plenty of intellectuals that use vulgar language. It is a part of our language for a reason and the reason i use it is to emphasize my sheer bewilderment at your astounding stupidity.
Oh please its the internet. If the best you can do is resort to the age old grammar nazi defense then you're even more pathetic than i thought. Were done, piss off.
There's a difference between being an intellectual and grammar checking every meticulous argument on a casual internet debate site to satisfy the demands of a dimwitted little weasel. Get over yourself. Also, high school graduate as of last week.
There's a difference between being an intellectual and grammar checking every meticulous argument on a casual internet debate site to satisfy the demands of a dimwitted little weasel.
You have made many grammar mistakes. In fact, you made some mistakes that a first grader only makes. Did you past first grade my good sir?
By the way, you said you were 21... Oh my, you really are not intellectual if you just graduated high school at 21!
Because why bother to correct such small and petty grammar mistakes? I could understand if my spelling and grammar was so poor that it couldnt be read but it isnt. Grow the fuck up you pathetic child im done talking about this stupid, pointless, nitpicky bullshit.
Also im 18, the reason my profile says 21 is because when i made this account 3 years ago i put 18 as my age because with many sites if you are not 18 the site will block you from using some or all parts of it.
I agree, there is no use into immediately resulting into swearing out another person on the internet or to their face (truth be told they would be too scared to say it to your face). Cussing when it's not necessary just proves to people that you are a whiner.
Hah! You haven't been here long have you? Also as i just explained to him the use of meticulous grammar is not nearly as important as the content of the posts. I'm not going to waste my time capitalizing my 'I's and structuring my sentences perfectly. And if you are correct (as i so wish you were) and this site is for intellectuals then people should certainly be able to bring down my arguments using reasons other than the grammar nazi defense.
I'm not going to waste my time capitalizing my 'I's and structuring my sentences perfectly
So hitting the shift takes too long for you? Have you used a keyboard before. It's pretty easy. First, you place you fingers on the home row keys. Then the shift on the left should be to the left and right of you pinky figures on both hands.
You would have though that they would teach you intellectuals how to type!
And if you are correct (as i so wish you were) and this site is for intellectuals then people should certainly be able to bring down my arguments using reasons other than the grammar nazi defense.
So therefore you are not an intellectual! My, my, my, my, my, we really have done it. WE TOOK DOWN AVESATANAS GUYS!
Even though, I believe we were taking down your arguments just fine. It sounded like we were debating a 3 year old.
Actually it's because i hardly spend much time on this site and usually have like 6 arguments to respond to when i get on so i try to go through the ones i dont give a shit about fairly quickly. like this one where i argue with a pathetic moron who is still crying about grammar. Get the fuck over yourself.
Actually it's because i hardly spend much time on this site and usually have like 6 arguments to respond to when i get on so i try to go through the ones i dont give a shit about fairly quickly.
But you just said you were intellectual!?!?!?! Shouldn't you be all about spreading your wisdom to the common folk?...
Oh wait... you can't spell.
i argue with a pathetic moron who is still crying about grammar. Get the fuck over yourself.
I would be crying if I were you because you make first grader mistakes. That's something you really need to work on. No business will hire you if you can't capitalize your I or put periods where they belong. For instance, you said, "...to when I get on so I try to go through the ones I don't give a shit about fairly quickly. like this one..." That my good sir, makes no sense.
I will make you an example in my lesson today as I show first graders how young adults can not master their own language.
My question is, since you defend your position with such idiotic remarks, are you gay yourself?
They encourage others to commit acts of perversion and those actions ALWAYS have detrimental effects in the lives of all who commit them. The issue is against what they do, and as long as they insist it's ok to do what they do and they want to make an issue about it, then the issue is against them....they are wrong and should not be allowed in any position or place where they can influence or molest children. The laws condoning their behavior are wrong and should be overturned though they probably will not be overturned. Sodomy in power will deny freedom of speech to those who say the actions are perversions. Not only will they shove it down your throat, they will force you to keep your mouth shut and swallow it if they can. I do not mean to be graphic here, it's simply what is happening today. Freedom of speech is disappearing and fascism is rising under the banners of Sodomy, Islam, Atheism, and such things. The Bible is being outlawed as "hate speech" because it clearly says homosexual acts are in a class of sexual perversion worse than common whore mongering such as men shacking up with their whorish girlfriends, or getting in bed with the whorish women they are not married to and enjoying being whoredog hotdog perverts themselves...but homosexuality in the Bible is "abomination"....given a much stronger negative connotation than the repulsive perversions of adulterers and fornicators who abuse themselves outside of marriage. The "hate speech" laws are moving toward outlawing any speech against sexual sin, outlawing the Bible, and penalizing Christians who in obedience to God will not deny His Word.
Um i disagree that the bible condones gay marriage and gay sex but i dont agree with "god designed marriage and family". The concept of family dates back well before christianity and the same with marriage which originated as a trade system between families who would sell their daughters for a dowry. Christianity didnt invent the concept it hijacked it and claimed it invented it. Also once again were back to you have to actually prove this presupposition. Youre just asserting god designed marriage, and have yet to prove that or prove god even exists. So how about actually responding to me. This is a debate site you know so why dont we stop the retarded preachy one sided spam "debates" and you actually respond to a fucking argument you coward.
Being gay is a choice. It's not only a choice, but a behavior.
A lifestyle. You choose your own lifestyle.
"The concept of family dates back well before christianity and the same with marriage"
If you believe in the bible, then you'll clearly see that God created man and woman which produced offspring; is that not a family to you? As far as marriage, Adam and Eve were married and became the first marriage ordained by God, or did Christianity hijack that concept as well?
Being gay is a choice. It's not only a choice, but a behavior.
A lifestyle. You choose your own lifestyle
Prove it. Prove modern biological and psychological understanding of homosexuality wrong. Prove this also in the face of pretty much every homosexual persons testimony to the contrary.
If you believe in the bible, then you'll clearly see that God created man and woman which produced offspring; is that not a family to you? As far as marriage, Adam and Eve were married and became the first marriage ordained by God, or did Christianity hijack that concept as well?
If you believe in the bible
there ya go. i dont believe the bible. The story of adam and even demonstrably never happened and if we actually go by science and a historical record going along with the theory of evolution we see the evolution of the "family unit" quite naturally as a social construct.
Ok, let's all make the same so called innocent and politically correct choice to become gay and see how many babies we can produce from here on out.
The scientific method claims that there must be observation before making claims. What scientist observed their alleged assumption that certain species evolved? None. Therefore their claims contradict their own method.
Prove it. Prove modern biological and psychological understanding of homosexuality wrong. Prove this also in the face of pretty much every homosexual persons testimony to the contrary.
At some level you have to admit that a person makes a choice to engage in sex with another man or woman. The action is and always will be a choice even if the attraction is unavoidable. Do you attempt to have sex with everyone and everything you are attracted to? Why do we financially punish 50 year old men for leaving their wives for younger women if that sexual activity wasn't a choice?
Were not talking about choosing to perform sexual acts were talking about literally choosing to be homosexual by nature which is impossible. of course its a choice to actually perform sexual acts and the like.
Your will does not affect your mental state and body chemistry which attracts you to the same gender. Therfore you cannot choose to be homosexual. You can try to be gay by doing homosexual acts and acting like youre gay. You can want to be gay. And maybe over time you will actually become mentally convinced you are gay. i dont know, i dont study this. All i know is that you dont choose to be homosexual.
I only said a person could choose to ACT gay. That may over time actually condition them to be used to homosexual acts or not. But as for just snapping your fingers and being fundamentally homosexual no that is not possible.
No actually thats an attack on the person. Just saying someones argument makes them look stupid doesnt actually address the contents of the argument. Fuck off i already reported you once dont make me have to talk to andy.
I just verbally attacked you a moment ago because you verbally attacked me. Basically, in your earlier argument, you said that gay marriage isn't a choice, but later in your argument you admitted it was a choice. Therefore, you admitted it was a choice.
Besides, you have verbally attacked me plenty of times before. Threatening me and acting more childish just makes it more laughable.
If you could hold a civil debate without cussing, I wouldn't verbally attack you like that.
Easy! Look down. A penis was intended to be inserted into a vagina to procreate. A vagina was made to be penetrated by a penis so that the sperm could reach the egg and so on and so on. Since the beginning of time, humans have tried to go against what their intended purpose was. Think about it, if the enemy was able to get Adam and Eve to do exactly what God told them not to do, then obviously the devil has intentions to try to manipulate and trick us. He has tried to do it since the beginning of time. The bible says that the enemy has come to kill, steal, and destroy. The devil is the master of trickery. Why do you think what was once considered evil is now the norm, and what was once considered good is considered discrimination. Don't try to say that "times have changed" or "it's a different era" because if you hold on to that perception than your claim is that truth changes. Truth is truth no matter how different eras may be.
You have chosen to be straight because there is no other way to use a penis? In what way is that a choice?
Why do you think what was once considered evil is now the norm, and what was once considered good is considered discrimination. Don't try to say that "times have changed" or "it's a different era" because if you hold on to that perception than your claim is that truth changes. Truth is truth no matter how different eras may be.
Assholes are the ones who force their beliefs on those who disagree... Just how many conservatives are out there suing states that have VOTED to allow gay marriage.. How many liberals have gone into conservative states and sued to force their beliefs on an unwilling population?
Assholes are the ones who force their beliefs on those who disagree
I have just realized that neither group is forcing their beliefs on the other. The pro gay community is saying that the government needs to recognize gay marriage. This in no way affects the belief system of conservatives. I am sorry, but it doesn't. Determining what the government should do does not affect what you believe. But, I would normally knee jerk react and say the conservatives are trying to force their beliefs, but they actually aren't either. They are just using their beliefs more to justify their position. So, I will say that conservatives aren't even trying to force their beliefs on people.
Just how many conservatives are out there suing states that have VOTED to allow gay marriage..
This is a worthless question. The conservatives preemptively struck against gay marriage.
The entire push for gay marriage is to try to force people to accept the gay lifestyle. They can live together, be committed to a relationship, or go through whatever commitment ceremonies they want. What they should not be allowed to do is go before a group of people or their representatives and say "you have to accept and endorse my alternative lifestyle." It's the good old slippery slope in full effect. "Let them get married, they aren't hurting anyone." A couple years later they are winning lawsuits against people who didn't want to service their wedding. How long will it be before a church isn't allowed to refuse a gay wedding?
In addition, whenever you make a counterfeit of something you cheapen the original. A gay marriage is a ludicrous imitation of a real marriage. It is a further distraction of how a family is supposed to function as well as the spiritual nature of marriage vows. No, I'm not saying gay marriage is the root of all the social problems in the western world, in many ways its support is just a symptom, but in any case it is a step in the wrong direction.
This is a worthless question. The conservatives preemptively struck against gay marriage.
Voters preemptively struck against gay marriage. Rogue judges are not supposed to be able to overrule them on a matter of opinion.
The entire push for gay marriage is to get people to not discriminate against gays just because you don't like their lifestyle. It is not to get you to like their lifestyle. It is to get you to not treat them different than other people.
Marriage already has tons of counterfeits in the heterosexual community.You have aalready lost that battle. Plus, they are completely different. It is like saying a counterfeit peso weakens the dollar.
You have no grasp of the judicial system. It is definitely a job of judges to make sure that what voters pass is constitutional. Your bigoted voter initiatives were unconstitutional and were not shot down out of opinion.
It is perfectly fine to discriminate against someone for something they do. We consider pedophiles the scum of the earth for what they do even though some psychologists consider it an "orientation" the same as homosexuals... Did they have a choice to break the law or not? Of course they did. So how does a homosexual not have the same choice?
If I were to tattoo a swastika on my forehead should I not expect some discrimination? Is there anything "bigoted" about that discrimination or did my choices just show poor character people want to avoid? Homosexuals on average or higher educated,with lower unemployment, and higher incomes than heterosexuals. They are not suffering from discrimination in any measurable way.
Deep down, the push for homosexual rights only gets so much momentum because it is anti-christian. And we have very much passed the tipping point where giving them more rights is grossing infringing on us.
I 100% agree there are a lot of counterfeits out there, but we don't even see it as a problem any more. I would argue though, the battle is not lost.
Plus, they are completely different. It is like saying a counterfeit peso weakens the dollar.
if they are completely different why is it so important to get the same label attached to them?
It is definitely a job of judges to make sure that what voters pass is constitutional.
ok, so show me exactly where in the constitution it mentions the right to gay marriage. Then show me exactly where it establishes the federal and circuit courts. Then show me where they have the power to strike down laws.
If I were to tattoo a swastika on my forehead should I not expect some discrimination?
And, you could still sue over it.
They are not suffering from discrimination in any measurable way.
Yes, they are. You can't just name things that are used to measure discrimination and say that all things to measure discrimination by are also not seen. That's like saying "I can't figure out how tall the building is with this ruler, so it's height must be unmeasurable."
Deep down, the push for homosexual rights only gets so much momentum because it is anti-christian. And we have very much passed the tipping point where giving them more rights is grossing infringing on us.
That's is the stupidest thing I have heard. "Those people getting rights is not allowing me to be a Christian." That's what Christianity has become. Your religion is now the oppress other people religion? Apparently the pro gay people think more highly of Christianity than the anti gay people do.
if they are completely different why is it so important to get the same label attached to them?
Stupidity. I agree that the gays could have won easier, so you are all idiots. Fine.
ok, so show me exactly where in the constitution it mentions the right to gay marriage.
Good, so you agree it is the job of the judges to shoot down these stupid bills.
Then show me exactly where it establishes the federal and circuit courts.
You don't believe in federal and circuit courts, but you believe in God? Man, there is something wrong with you.
Then show me where they have the power to strike down laws.
The judicial system is in charge of creating laws. If the judicial system can't shoot down laws, who can?
And you think that is ok? If you were hiring someone for your business don't you think you should have a right to turn down someone like that?
You can't just name things that are used to measure discrimination and say that all things to measure discrimination by are also not seen.
Ok, so by what measurable way are homosexuals suffering that they don't bring on themselves?
Your religion is now the oppress other people religion?
A key part of christianity has always been the rejection of sin. That has not changed. You still needs to show how they are being oppressed.
Good, so you agree it is the job of the judges to shoot down these stupid bills.
If a state or the federal government is trying to exercise new power that indisputably violates the constitution, yes the supreme court should rule against it. Putting simple, non-racist requirements on marriage is not a new power. It is something that has been done for a long time.
You don't believe in federal and circuit courts, but you believe in God? Man, there is something wrong with you.
Believing they exist and believing they should have the power to strike down state laws are two different things.
The judicial system is in charge of creating laws.
Wrong, congress is in charge of creating laws.
If the judicial system can't shoot down laws, who can?
And you think that is ok? If you were hiring someone for your business don't you think you should have a right to turn down someone like that?
No, I don't like lawsuits. It would be very weird circumstances for him to be able to sue. It also doesn't apply because it is something he is doing in public. If he had a swastika on his chest would you have a problem with him?
Ok, so by what measurable way are homosexuals suffering that they don't bring on themselves?
Well, this is a pretty obvious one, they don't get marriage benefits.
A key part of christianity has always been the rejection of sin. That has not changed. You still needs to show how they are being oppressed.
Isn't it a sin to not be Christian? So, if you really wanted to vanquish sin, wouldn't you also have to be against all other religion? But, either way, how is taking away their benefits not oppression? Plus, if it isn't oppression, how is the government recognizing gay marriage causing you to not be able to reject sin?
If a state or the federal government is trying to exercise new power that indisputably violates the constitution, yes the supreme court should rule against it. Putting simple, non-racist requirements on marriage is not a new power. It is something that has been done for a long time.
So, as long as the government has been doing it for a while the Judicial system should just shut the hell up when they violate the constitution?
Wrong, congress is in charge of creating laws.
Right, oops. They enforce the laws.
The president.
And, he wants gay marriage, this doesn't help you.
Actually I can agree gay marriage isn't automatically Christian while at the same time saying I support gay marriage and/or civil unions, however they be called. I value the civil rights in a free society above any religious dogma.
I know many of you won't agree, but so what?
Marriage to me is simply a legally binding agreement between two people who love each other.
And I could have put this on the other side instead, but this is one of those cases where I agree with the overall debate heading but don't necessarily like the voting column labels underneath it.
What is christian is determined by the interpretation of the bible by the church. It used to be that divorce was such a anti-christian thing to do that kings would lose their throne for it. Now everyone is coming to accept divorce as a valid response to an unhappy marriage. Soon, gay marriage will also be justified. As, probably, so will responsible use of pot, premarital sex, maybe even prostitution. It will be interesting to see what christianity becomes.
Divorce is not acceptable to many conservative Christian denominations. You can see liberal denominations shrinking and conservative ones growing. PCA, which split from the PCUSA in the 70's over the ordaining of women, is steadily growing, while PCUSA, which recently started ordaining homosexuals, has lost half a million members over the last decade. I think people deep down realize that if you are just going to change your beliefs to fit the culture, there is no point in your faith. For the foreseeable future the more conservative branches of Christianity will continue to exist.
however according to God: Jesus: .. But from the beginning of creation .. >> God made them male and female > God has joined << together .. let no man separate ...
This means Jesus was against divorce, not gay marriage.
try again ....... God made them male and female .. >> for this reason << a man shall leave his father and mother .. and the two shall become one flesh .. so they are no longer two .. but one flesh
If somebody asks Jesus about divorce, then he is talking about divorce. You don't want to open the can of worms of interpreting the Bible without taking into account the context.
Better late than never. You are right about the question that was ask. Jesus was asked about divorce and he answered using God's word from Genesis 2:24. He was not asked if it was OK for a man and a man to become one in the bond of marriage. That wasn't the issue then, but it is now. So the question arises "Gay marriage is Christian?" Well what does God tell us. First commandment from God Genesis 1:27-28 "So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them. And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that move upon the earth." If Gay marriage is a good idea what would happen if everyone woke up one day and said I'm A homosexual? If this isn't clear enough there are many other scriptures. Leviticus 18:22 "Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination." 1 Timothy 1:9-11 "realizing the fact that law is not made for a righteous person, but for those who are lawless and rebellious, for the ungodly and sinners, for the unholy and profane, for those who kill their fathers or mothers, for murderers and immoral men and homosexuals and kidnappers and liars and perjurers, and whatever else is contrary to sound teachings, according to the blessed God, with which I have been entrusted. There are many other verses that answer the question if you would like them please message me. May the Father of our lord Jesus Christ give you understanding.
If Gay marriage is a good idea what would happen if everyone woke up one day and said I'm A homosexual?
You think Jesus would be happy with you treating people badly because they aren't perfect? What if everyone woke up with leprosy? What if everyone woke up poor and couldn't take care of children? Do you think Jesus would change his opinion?
Leviticus 18:22 "Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination."
Christians have moved away from quoting Leviticus because it is Jewish law that Jesus has fulfilled, and because Leviticus has a whole bunch of rules that you are hypocritically ignoring.
1 Timothy 1:9-11 "realizing the fact that law is not made for a righteous person, but for those who are lawless and rebellious, for the ungodly and sinners, for the unholy and profane, for those who kill their fathers or mothers, for murderers and immoral men and homosexuals and kidnappers and liars and perjurers, and whatever else is contrary to sound teachings, according to the blessed God, with which I have been entrusted.
Do you allow the lawless and rebellious to get married? Do you allow the ungodly and the sinners to get married? Do you allow the unholy or profane to get married? Do you allow those that kill their fathers and mothers to get married? Do you allow murderers to get married? Do you allow the immoral to get married? Do you allow kidnappers and liars and perjurers to get married?
May the Father of our lord Jesus Christ give you understanding.
So you agree that homosexuality are imperfect? Jesus healed leprosy. Jesus fed the poor. He changed there situation because it isn't in God's will to be so. Are you a Christian? Christians haven't moved away from any laws except those that Jesus has enhanced. What did Jesus say about the law. Matthew 5:17-18 "Do not think that I came to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I did not come to abolish but to fulfill. For truly I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest letter or stroke shall pass from the law until all is accomplished." As Christian we are commanded to teach and admonish one another and also to rebuke a brother or sister who sins. Please be patient with me as I answer your question do we allow sinners to get married. If I understand you correctly. As a Christian before you go to God for a request you will repent for any sins you have committed. God will grant our request if we pray in the name of Jesus. His mercy is greater than our sins. The difference is when you go before him as a homosexual you are telling God you don't repent and he needs to accept you the way you are. Last it seems that I might have offended you with my prayer for you. I prayed that prayer for myself and many others many times. Not to belittle there intelligence but to make way for God's wisdom. Thank you for listening to me.
I really appreciate you giving me your time and attention. I really enjoy your questions and I know how valuable it is. Wearing mixed fabrics and eating kosher- Matthew 6:25 "therefore I say unto you, do not be worried about your life, as to what you will eat or drink; nor for your body, as to what you will put on. Is not life more than food, and the body more than clothing?" Matthew 15:11 "it is not what enters into the mouth that defiles the man, but what proceeds out of the mouth, this defiles the man." I don't just go after one sin but all things that take us away from God. I have my own sins that I fight daily as will everybody until the day we die. I do care about other sinners getting married. If you think about it where are the Christians saying "I'm a liar and going to get married anyway?" If there was then you would hear Christians speaking against it.
Matthew did not say those words, Jesus did Matthew just recorded it. I'm in a debate session about Gay marriage is it appropriate for me to change the debate? Why did they divorce? Have they repented or have they accepted there sin? thanks for your time again.
I'm in a debate session about Gay marriage is it appropriate for me to change the debate?
I didn't realize that divorced marriage was a different kind of sin. You believe in different kinds of sin?
Why did they divorce? Have they repented or have they accepted there sin?
It is impossible to repent your sin. They are still living a life every day where they are not in a relationship that God approves of. Just like homosexuals.