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Debate Score:10
Arguments:13
Total Votes:14
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George Washington was a scumbag

George Washington owned slaves, allegedly took credit for the work of others to raise his own status, allegedly molested Native American women, and was relatively incompetent and lacked true experience as a general.
He often put his men in unnecessary danger during his early military career out of a desire for glory. He once told his men "Do not use the trees for cover" during a skirmish with french soldiers due to his thirst for open combat, which cost many of their lives, he was tactically reckless at times and obsessed with glory and public image, although he paradoxically held to a humble demeanor and often lacked confidence.
  •  Charles Lee(British officer) on George Washington:  The man is weak. He stumbles and stammers through each engagement, making it all up as he goes along. His pedigree is pathetic – his military record even more so. I could go on and on but we'd be here for days, so manifold are his faults, so deficient are his merits. He must be dealt with.  We will abide no more flies in the ointment.

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Side Score: 4

George Washington was a scumbag...

Probably because there was no Republican Party yet to free the slaves.

Side: Scumbag
Haytham(24) Clarified
1 point

It was a bit more complicated than that. The republicans didn't single handedly free the slaves, there was a higher power playing both sides in that war.

As always we work in the shadows, and we had the slaves freed for our own gain, both repards and drivelrals are nothing but pawns alike.

I am a three billion degree Templar Mason.

Side: Scumbag
Nomenclature(1293) Clarified
1 point

It was a bit more complicated than that.

No shit. Lincoln was a racist scumbag.

Side: Scumbag
2 points

He MAY have been a scumbag, but he got the country started and it became great. Today we have elected another scumbag. History will tell us if he was as successful, or if he destroyed all that Washington had started. That is, if we HAVE a history after him! Be afraid ... be VERY afraid!

Side: Good person
ConnorKenway(12) Disputed
1 point

At least Trump never owned a slave.

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Side: Scumbag
0 points

To start with, there is none good, not one. Only God is good. George Washington was a sinner like us, worthy of nothing better than eternal damnation in the fire of Hell.

Nice how the main quote here is from a direct military enemy of Washington. I'm sure we can believe everything that guy says about Washington and the historical record means nothing (except when you point out that Washington owned slaves).

The real scumbags are people who deny that they are unworthy of life and need God's mercy while they slander others.

Side: Good person
ConnorKenway(12) Disputed
1 point

Only God is good. George Washington was a sinner like us, worthy of nothing better than eternal damnation in the fire of Hell.

So if you are not perfect you deserve to suffer for eternity? Damn, your culture is sick unnatural and perverted.

(except when you point out that Washington owned slaves).

YOU are a slave to your fake god who is against nature and treats humans like trash.

The real scumbags are people who deny that they are unworthy of life

Sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo pathetic and disgusting. christianity promotes such a sick philosophy about life and the mentality of a whipped dog.

Side: Scumbag
NowASaint(1389) Clarified
1 point

You are a sinner, God never sinned and you are not worthy to stand in His presence. He gave His Son to be the propitiation for your sins. If you will admit that you are the sinner who deserves to die and burn in Hell forever, and believe He took your sins on Himself and paid in full what you as a sinner can never pay, believe He is risen bodily from the dead offering you forgiveness of your sins which He died for, and ask God in the name of Jesus to save you, you can receive Jesus Christ as your Savior and have eternal life.

God offers you the gift of eternal life through faith in the sinless blood of His Son who died for your sins and rose to justify all who believe on Him. Fighting against Him like you are doing will only seal your condemnation if you believe you deserve it or not.

By the way you talk, I'm guessing your parents neglected you or abused you or both.

Side: Scumbag
TzarPepe(792) Disputed
0 points

"So if you are not perfect you deserve to suffer for eternity? Damn, your culture is sick unnatural and perverted."

Are you going to die?

"And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the Lord. And they shall go forth, and look upon the carcases of the men that have transgressed against me: for their worm shall not die, neither shall their fire be quenched; and they shall be an abhorring unto all flesh."

"The voice said, Cry.

And he said, What shall I cry?

All flesh is grass,

and all the goodliness thereof is as the flower of the field:

the grass withereth, the flower fadeth:

because the spirit of the Lord bloweth upon it:

surely the people is grass.

The grass withereth, the flower fadeth:

but the word of our God shall stand for ever."

Side: Good person