Debate Score:	47
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Germany VS America

Germany Side Score: 24		America Side Score: 23
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Rogue Rascal (9480)

4 points

More epic history... Just saying.

Also, the average German is sexier than the average American in my opinion.

These are just my opinions, please don't kill me.

11 years ago Side: Germany

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Cuaroc (8829) Disputed

1 point

What happened to you loving america on your last account?

11 years ago Side: America

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Rogue Rascal (9480) Clarified

4 points

What are you on about? You mean on facebook or what?...........

11 years ago Side: Germany

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LizziexLaura (4278)

1 point

What last account? Who is that?

11 years ago Side: America

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Lilyloo26 (2) Disputed

1 point

That doesn't make too much sense saying Germans are sexier than Americans. Every American is a different race

10 years ago Side: America

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Rogue Rascal (9480) Disputed

1 point

Only five races but millions of Americans; I don't think that every American is a different race.

10 years ago Side: Germany

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Elvira (3446)

4 points

I have more German friends than American friends, and I'm doing German B Higher so I have to choose this option :)

Plus I love the country, the rivers, the medieval history and the architecture... yay Hundertwasser( http://greenapple.ca/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/Darmstadt_Waldspirale_1.jpg )!

11 years ago Side: Germany

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Idiotobx914 (1340)

4 points

Germany created some pretty epic food...

11 years ago Side: Germany

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Gowan (49)

2 points

I have more German friends than American ones... plus they do have some really nice food. European Union also nice to be able to easily visit the neighbouring countries for holidays. they are great engineers. and apart from the 20th century Germany has such a wonderful and colourful history.

10 years ago Side: Germany

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Quocalimar (6470)

2 points

I live in America.

11 years ago Side: America

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warrior (1854)

1 point

America more freedoms, more rights, less shady history. Less world wars started more world wars ended. Less countries invaded more countries saved you get the point.

11 years ago Side: America

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eXite85 Disputed

2 points

America invaded more countries, today has less freedoms (patriot act and so on), of all countries in the world Germany is the only one, that hasn't a "shady" history, cause everything has been come to light and regretted. The us still thinks ( your post as an example) it was/ is a force of good. No "Wiedergutmachung" of American history ( slaves,tortures, drones, dictators)

11 years ago Side: Germany

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warrior (1854) Disputed

1 point

America never had any dictators (not for very long anyway) and America has not invaded enough countries to equate to all of Europe sorry. And idd say saving the world from Germany twice makes us pretty damn good. As dose combating the spread of communism, fighting terrorism, and guarding 3 countries including Germany. Your rebuttal? Oh and by the way holocaust. Good day sir

11 years ago Side: America

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eXite85 Disputed

2 points

You supported dictators and even overthrown democratic leaders for your interests ( Chile, Iran(Persia)). You have invaded more countries in the last 70 years than Germany did! Deal with that! Holocaust?! Bitch, please... Centuries of slavery and the genocide of millions of natives..... It was one bad German generation that committed the holocaust, but it were several Generations of Americans who slaughtered and enslaved other people!! If Germany has several dark pages in its history books, the us has them right from the beginning,up until the 20th century!

The only reason the holocaust stands out is the fact, that it crimes happened in a very short amount of time!! You fight terrorism?! You don't extinguish a fire by pouring more gasoline on it!!

By the way wasn't there a anniversary recent? Iraq? Hmmm? Didn't the CIA or pentagon finally come out with the truth , that the USA is still in this very moment still torturing people? Guantanamo also a real nice place to live...

In recent polls by the BBC ,Germany was voted in a worldwide poll the most liked country in the world( I was surprised myself), runner up was Japan .. Oh the irony xD the USA shares its place with Iran, Israel and Pakistan.

Sick with Americans thinking they're a force if good. Manifest destiny and American exceptionalism sound like "master race" to me!

Reminds me of scarface" point your effin' finger and say that's the bad guy! What does it make you? Good? You need people like me" without us the us or perhaps the uk would be the "bad" guys. Be very glad!

11 years ago Side: Germany

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warrior (1854) Disputed

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Genocide of natives? Oh you mean territory wars like World War One and 2. No not like World War One and 2in World War One and 2more people died and more damage was done.

And don't talk to me about slavery how much did Germany pay the Jews in the labor camps?

And we killed Osama that's cutting the head off the beast will it destroy AlQuida no will it weaken them yes.

And we here in America sincerely don't give a fuck what you jealous foreigners think so poll all you like.

And bragging is a perk of being the most powerful nation on earth so deal with it.

Besides at least when we invade nations its for a reason like stoping the spred of communism (or naziism) or rooting out terrorists. Let me guess France, Poland, Austria, Russia, uk, and Denmark where all planning on inslaveing the world and you were actually trying to stop them. Right? At least in America we have the freedom to own most types of firearms and protection from unreasonable searches and seizures. This debate is pointless we've already proven we are better than you twice.

Oh and by the way about Guantanamo bay and "tourture" water boarding isn't tourture

This is tourture

11 years ago Side: America

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eXite85 Disputed

2 points

No, you achieved what the nazis dreamt of! The genocide of a race in America so that you could spread from east to west. The little rest was put in reservats! Millions of them over centuries killed and deported.

Germany paid them nothing, how much could a black man buy from his "paycheck" ?! You disgust me. They were slaves. People of second class. They were goods without value! It's absolutely hypocrisy as an American to attack Germany on this ground when you were the same!

By the way, you can be very glad there are no real video footages of the treatment of blacks or natives by Americans!wonder what the world would see.

You do know that you've armed Osama in the first place to fight the Russians? What does the CIA call it? A blowback I guess.

"Jealous foreigners"... Hahaha. ."most powerful nation" you were for a short time. By your logic the world has to hate china now too?

By the way, are you one of the Americans who have to visit a dentist in a tent? Or one with the foodstamps? I'm really jealous of a country that is going downwards. Even your president thinks of Germany as a rolemodel economy and society!

You've less freedom than me. I bet several phone calls from you have already been analysed by the FBI. You had to take of all your clothes in a airport. Protection from unreasonable searches? Hahaha give me a break! Patriot act and homeland insecurity do their best to prove other wise!

The reason you fight is liberty and freedom? Is that from the back of a Kellogg's cereal?! Oil, power and interests is what us soldiers die for! Nothing more. All this babble of a greater good is just opium for the masses and you're part of it. It works.

Of course Americans have the right to bare arms, you also have the right to be stupid and ignorant. Living the American dream!

You've proven you're better than us twice? How by turning up late two times and let the Russians do the work?

I won't comment on your views about Guantanamo , cause it disgusts me what you're saying!

11 years ago Side: Germany

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warrior (1854) Disputed

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My my haven't I struck a few nerves. First of all it may surprise you to find out that many black "slaves" were payed ever heard of a slave buying their freedom it happened quite often in the "slave owning" U.S. how many Jews bought there freedom?

And death and conquest as what happened to the natives are natural consequences of war you Germans should know that.

As for what you would see if video documentation existed chronicling the treatment of slaves well you would probably see workers being kept alive fed and healthy by their masters on some plantations slaves where treated as family of honored guests.

And yes I know the CIA armed and trained the mujahideen then we kicked there asses when they turned on us and became AlQuida what's your point?

And we are the most powerful nation on earth if you want proof of that all y'all need to do is get frogie again and start shit for the third time.

And no I'm not on welfare or food stamps I live a good life my family is a hard working American family not a socialist Obamaite family.

And no one is made to get naked at the airport don't be ridiculous. We have freedom of speech, freedom of religion, freedom of the press, freedom to keep and bare arms, and countless other freedoms we are the freest country on earth.

And we kicked your asses in world war 2 we liberated Africa, Italy, and France from you ass holes Russia didn't stand a chance until we came in and bought them the breathing room to ass rape you guys.

You guys are just embaresed that we stayed and fought while you ran back to Europe with your tails betwixt your legs. Oil and money my ass"

Water boarding isn't tourture deal with it"

11 years ago Side: America

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Gowan (49) Disputed

1 point

Don't you just have to love this fairy tale dream story called "America wins WW2".

if you truly believe that the USA was the force that won the second world war then you are sorely mistaken. I actually quote an AMERICAN HISTORIAN with this statistic "on the whole of the western front against the USA and Britain, Germany lost 1 million men compared to 6 million on the eastern front"!

the USA did bugger all compared to the soviets! Go look it up Germany lost between 7 and 9 million people in WW2. The USA can't even claim to have killed 1 million of those. you crippled the British Empire by lending us money to buy weapons from you, we had to make seriously unreasonable agreements to get help from you!

Winston Churchill is quoted as saying "Americans will always do the right thing... After they have tries EVERYTHING ELSE"!

Now that I have got passed the problems with your views on WW2 I shall now argue why Germany is better than America. Apart from all the wars the USA has started in recent years, the poor economy, the racism, health issues etc. etc America just is not so welcoming. Germany has put its past behind it. it has disowned that time, its different now it regards that past as truly evil. the modern Germany is a great country that is the heart of modern Europe, Germany not America is bailing out the weak European countries which threaten to send the world into an even worse financial crisis.

Now I know your going to argue against all my points! I know your going to say I am an arrogant and ignorant British socialist, who tries to deny the greatness of the USA... but seriously, when there are many people in the USA who share that view, its no surprise that I favour the Germans... they know the wrongs their nation has committed in the past.

10 years ago Side: Germany

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warrior (1854) Disputed

1 point

The Russians killed more Germans sure that's true. But America did more to cripple the German war effort. We pushed them out of Africa which cut them off from rich oil reserves. We pushed them out of Italy and France which weakend there defenses which got the western alies in bomber range of the German industrial centers, and all that was what allowed the Russians to turn the war around because we cut them off from fule and crippled their ability to make tanks and air plains and other essential materials they needed to continue fighting. And excuse us for making a profit its just smart business. Anyway our racist past is behind us as well there is no more slavery there is no more segregation. No more lynching all that is gone. America is still the most powerful and influential countrie in the world. Germany may be the heart of Europe but we are the head of the entire western world.

10 years ago Side: America

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Gowan (49) Disputed

1 point

"we Pushed them out of Africa"??? don't you mean you helped a little... Britain and the Common wealth did most of the work there. ever hear of the battle of El Alamein?

I'll let you get credit for Europe, you did quite a bit of work there. Yet still you didn't do all of it as you seem to perceive. As for the Bombing, American bombers by day British bombers by night, we shared that load. Besides Russia turned the war in the east without much help from US.

Also about the good business thing so if as an example North Korea, China, Russia, Iran or someone else was to launch terrorist attacks on your industrial centres crippling your ability to make weapons Britain and your other allies should do the same thing? making the USA a much poorer nation after the war? would you approve of that?

and is it good at the head of the entire western world? when your at the top you get blamed for everything, everyone can see who's at the top and will judge whatever they do. I am not going to argue that some other country is more powerful but is it really that great to be the nation that everyone is going to blame if something major happens.

10 years ago Side: Germany

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GuitaristDog (2548) Disputed

1 point

"slaves, tortures, drones, dictators"

Hmm, what does that sound like? Oh yeah, the history of most European countries, including Germany.

10 years ago Side: America

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wolverinetre (238)

1 point

>United States

>Strongest nation on Earth for 67 years and counting

>That debt? Just a number; who would ever collect?

>Highest GDP on Earth

>Worth 51% of the global economy

>Largest navy in the world

>Has military bases on 1/3rd of the Earth

>Only country with a functioning railgun

>30 years technologically superior to any other opposing nation's military on Earth

>Only military that has the industrial and technological capacity to mass produce unmanned drones

>Developing a new generation of spaceships

>Only country to have been to the Moon

>Only country with a private sector actively working in space

>Global center of the arts, humanities, education, finance, commerce, business, warfare, technology, industry, culture, politics and communication

>Owns the most cities on the World Cities ranking chart

>Won WWII singlehandedly

>Never lost a war in its 237 year history (Vietnam didn't win; look at them and look at the US now; same with Canada in 1812)

>Leader of the free world

Don't like us? No problem.

At the end of the day, you are all American people. The Facebook you use? American. Google? American. Apple? American. Microsoft? American. Every other thing on the planet except for putting milk into tea? American. You follow our elections (inb4 "I don't"; oh, really? You don't know whether Obama or Romney won?) You watch our movies and television shows. You wear our clothes. You copy our vernacular. You access American websites. You copy our Constitution and our laws. You read our books, ponder our art, use our weapons, drive our cars. The global economy is based on the US Dollar. Our military maintains bases on your soil. When our President speaks, you listen.

You are ALL American people.

10 years ago Side: America

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PhxDemocrat (13121)

1 point

America is better because our country is stronger and does not have the ugly history of Hitler.

8 years ago Side: America

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