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God doesn't know everything

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I'm going to vote 'true' on this because it's one of several possible explanations that allow the idea of a god to be reconciled with the current state of the world.

I assert that A god that is benevolent, omniscient, and omnipotent is fundamentally incompatible with the state of the world.

A god that was omniscient, omnipotent, and benevolent could easily design the universe in such a way as to ensure that everyone is happy, everyone is faithful to him, and everyone does so, not compulsively, but due to ones own free will.

A benevolent god would not allow suffering and evil if he or she could prevent it. This implies that if a benevolent god exists, said god has limited capabilities in terms of the created universe. Benevolent and omnipotent, but not omniscient, could result in the current state of the world due to god simply not knowing what the likely outcome of the created conditions would be. Benevolent and omniscient, but not omnipotent, could also result in the current state of the world due to god simply not being capable of shaping the world to the most desirable state.

An omnipotent god is fully capable of creating a world where all who live are happy and faithful- again, not compulsively, but by their own conscious choice. Omnipotent and benevolent, but not omniscient, could result in the current state of the world due to god simply not knowing what the likely outcome of the created conditions would be. Omnipotent and omniscient, but not benevolent, could also result in the current state of the world due to god simply not caring about the human condition.

An omniscient god may not necessarily know the future (future events technically aren't classified as 'knowledge' by the way we define it), but would be aware of the original and current condition of everything in the universe, as well as all possible outcomes of any given set of conditions, their relative likelihoods, and what events and actions would shift the probability of any given outcome. Omniscient and benevolent, but not omnipotent, could also result in the current state of the world due to god simply not being capable of shaping the world to the most desirable state. Omniscient and omnipotent, but not benevolent, could also result in the current state of the world due to god simply not caring about the human condition.

TLDR: The current state of the world is fundamentally incompatible with the idea of an omnipotent, omniscient, benevolent god. If a god exists at all, said god must either be lacking in the ability to create the most desirable world, the knowledge of how to create the most desirable world, or the inclination to create a desirable world.

Side: True
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God doesn't know what gay sex feels like lol haha loser!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Side: True
1 point

YES Cuz God created us and He can see the things we do everyday and He lives in Heaven which is up in sky watching over us

Side: True
1 point

If a good is to exist, he must know. If it wasn't so, you and I would technically be gods. If you think about it, the perception of god is almighty. The only difference between us and a god is flawlessness. If he is an unknowing being, we would technically be gods.

Side: False
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According to the some popular bibles we ARE gods .

Side: True
Srom(12207) Clarified
1 point

Really? That's news to me because if I recall there isn't verses in the Bible that say we are gods.

Side: True
1 point

God does know everything. He knows things that we can't even fathom.

Side: False
goodmale(1457) Disputed
2 points

God knows what gay sex feels like or animal sex. Does God now what's it like not being a God is like. Does God know what not existing feels like?

Side: True