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Debate Score:32
Arguments:19
Total Votes:47
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God is an Atheist.

Atheism is a lack of belief in god.

Belief consists of a degree of uncertainty about the position believed in.

God is All knowing and thus lacks uncertainty.

Thus god is an Atheist.

True

Side Score: 19
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False.

Side Score: 13
4 points

http://friendlyatheist.com/2007/11/19/atheism-isnt-it-wonderful/

I do not take any credit for the following:

"I had a JW call at my door. After a bit of discussion I asked if his god believed in a higher power than itself. No, he said, as his god was “top”. There was nothing above his god, so he was forced to agree that his god didn’t get his morals from a higher authority, and didn’t get them from a book either. So, I said, we call people who don’t believe in a higher authority than themselves, and that don’t get their morals from a book, Atheists. I said if Atheism is good enough for god, then it’s good enough for me. That flummoxed him."

Side: True
0 points

1. In order to have a religion one must believe in something.

2. In order to believe in something one must exist.

3. God does not exist, therefore God cannot have a religion.

Side: True

Now that is something where I can agree.-------------------

Side: True
eztone123(15) Disputed
0 points

That's the atheists point of view. but lets switch around number 3

and say God does exist, therefore God has a religion.

you labled 2 facts and the third one was a fake. nice try tho.

Side: False.
casper3912(1581) Disputed
1 point

His argument is valid.The existence of god(s)(the ones that are not logically contradictory) has not been empirically shown false and thus the truth value of his 3rd premise depends not on any objective observation but on subjective opinion.

Side: True

Beer is a liquid.

Liquids are wet.

Milk is wet.

Thus milk is beer.

Side: False.
casper3912(1581) Disputed
0 points

are you saying that not believing in god is not the exclusive domain of atheism?

Your argument is

A is B

B is C

D is C

thus D is A

(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallacy_of_the_undistributed_middle)

My logical form without the negatives is as follows

B is A (theism is a belief)

If A then C ( if there is a belief there is uncertainty)

not C (god has no uncertainty)

thus not A and Not B.

Side: True
2 points

are you saying that not believing in god is not the exclusive domain of atheism?

I'm saying I gave a sarcastic "argument" that obviously wasn't well thought out in response to what I consider to be a silly debate topic.

I suppose we need to add (where belief is possible) to the definition of the word atheist.

Side: False.

Surely if he exists, he believes in himself. .

Side: False.
casper3912(1581) Disputed
1 point

God wouldn't believe in himself, he would know in himself.

Side: True
aveskde(1935) Disputed
1 point

God wouldn't believe in himself, he would know in himself.

So he would be a gnostic theist.

You are equivocating "believe in" between "to accept existence of" and "to support."

Your sentence ought to read "God wouldn't accept his existence, he would know of his existence." Then your logic falls apart.

Side: False.
0 points

So if I know myself but do not believe in myself, does that mean I don't believe I exist?

Side: False.
0 points

does a tree believe it exists? does anything that lacks the ability to believe in general believe in itself? If I do not have a bird, do I have a penguin?

all Bs are A

not A, thus not B.

Side: True