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 Good and Evil Do Not Exist (28)

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Good and Evil Do Not Exist

Good and Evil are societal fictions, mores, which act as a useful tool (sometimes for oppression).  All things in existence simply are.  The value judgment places on conduct reflects societal and personal goals, generally evolved over generations, to help congeal society and regulate behaviour. 

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3 points

If it exists, it exists as an internally experienced emotion that is completely subjective. Ideas of good and evil evolve with societies to promote the cohesion and functioning of the society.

Emotions are real, as in they are the result of certain chemicals in our body. Change the chemical composition, you change the emotion.

Islamic terrorists believe it is "good" to kill non-believing civilians. Does that "good" exist?

2 points

Good and Evil absolutely does exist. This makes no sense at all. Using this logic I can say that nothing "really" exists then.

Cartman(18192) Disputed
3 points

No, by that logic you can say anything that is only a concept in the mind doesn't exist.

7thDebater(294) Clarified
1 point

Fair enough, that is a good point. I still think its terrible logic.

2 points

They exist only as concepts in the mind. Good and Evil do not exist in an objective reality (that which does not require our participation for existence.)

2 points

they surely do exist .. i am the good person and you are the evil one ;)

2 points

how would good and evil not exist, by saying that you are saying hitler was not evil

Got proof? .

MuckaMcCaw(1970) Clarified
1 point

The OP posted his/her reasoning in the debate description.

If you do not agree with the reasoning provided, then you are more than welcome to argue against the points.

But the attempt was at least made to provide rational support, and it appears you are ignoring that.

1 point

This person made a claim of which they refuse to provide proof.

1 point

How is saying "good" and "evil" do not exist equate to saying nothing exists.

Matter exists. The sun exists. Good and evil are abstract concepts which change from generation to generation, and place to place.

rubbery(14) Disputed
2 points

Good and evil are abstract concepts which change from generation to generation, and place to place.

So are art, humor, and beauty. Do you deny their existence as well? Yes, the understanding, application, or appreciation of something we as humans are born with varies from place to place, but that doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

Good and evil does not exist. At a fundamental level, there is really no good and evil in the universe. Everything just is. It is perception that frames reality. Good and evil is based on perception. Therefore the perception of good and evil depends on the one perceiving it. If you perceive something as good, then to you it is good. If you perceive something as evil, then to you it is evil. We can choose our own frame of reality or we can choose to follow the frame set by another in his perception of good and evil.

Good and evil is a judgment. To consider something better than or worse than is a judgment. Evil is something of inferior quality compared to something better, therefore a lesser good is considered evil when compared with a greater good. When there is no judgment, there is no consideration of something being better or worse than another. Everything is accepted equally as it is. Judgment creates separation of one thing with another whereas non judgment sees the oneness and equality of all things.

Have proof? .

Atrag(5666) Disputed
0 points

You're the one making the positive assertion, not him. You prove it does exist.

1 point

No Im not. I did not make a claim. .

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No Im not. I did not make a claim. Asking a question does not equal making a claim.