Has anyone seen the Avengers?
I wanted to know if anyone on this site has seen the Avengers. Everyone keeps sayings its super good. I might go see it this saturday.
Saw it last week (came out a week earlier in the UK), it's pretty awesome. Not much plot, but there's lots of explosions, and some pretty funny jokes. You should definitely see it. One of the cinema attendants looked like Nick Fury.
Oh, and if explosions aren't your thing, Black Widow's hot.
There's a lot of critics who are slamming it for being a 'big dumb action movie,' but I really, really don't think it's claiming to be anything other than that, and for fuck's sake, it's a super hero movie. The fact is, it accomplishes everything it wants to accomplish excellently, and it has a cheeky sense of humour. So really, if you've seen the other recent marvel movies leading up to this, you don't have a reason not to see it.
It's pretty good.
And Joss Whedon puts in references on being against rules and authority (as he did Cabin in the Woods and Firefly). The guy seems Libertarian, which is always a plus (and common in sci-fi nowadays).
Why say this all?
In hopes that some lame-brain who really hates Libertarian will make some kind of smart-alec remark because they know i'm right, as always 8)
Meh. He is an atheist feminist born in New York and who works for Hollywood....
Seems like your typical, run of the mill liberal.
In fact, it seems he supports national health care and welfare:
"One of the best scenes that I wrote was the beautiful and poignant scene between Steve and Peggy [Carter] that takes place in the present. And I was the one who was like, Guys, we need to lose this. It was killing the rhythm of the thing. And we did have a lot of Cap, because he really was the in for me. I really do feel a sense of loss about what’s happening in our culture, loss of the idea of community, loss of health care and welfare and all sorts of things. I was spending a lot of time having him say it, and then I cut that."
I'm glad I baited you to respond, too bad you clarified and I couldn't see it in the feed.
But feminism and Atheism are both quite Libertarian. feminism itself only becomes Liberal when they demand censorship of the media or regulation of business practices.
Atheism is far more consistent with Classical Liberalism (Libertarianism) than with neo-liberalism.
As for your quote, he was talking about Captain America vs. Iron Man. He even said that he's more like Tony Stark than Steve Rogers, even though he wishes he could be the other way around.
More like his duality. Captain America represents Authoritarianism while Iron Man represents Libertarianism (a bit strange, since the comics were kind of flipped in the whole IronMan vs. CapAm series).
Whatever reason, Joss has a record of anti-government in his narratives.
Most prevalent in Firefly, where the Confederates who were against the centralized Alliance government were the heroes of the show. Or Cabin in the Woods, where efforts from government to save the people were barbaric, and the constant dialogue from the hero of the film about eliminating authority over individuals, etc. Government, in Joss's stories, is always a bad guy in some way. In the case of the Avengers, it was about how government wanted to create war machines (so it was attack on big military). Also, the senator near the end of the film who was talking about how the heroes was a menace was labeled as a Democrat. Maybe just a coincidence.